/qa/ - Questions & Answers

>>154270
I don’t like to personally acknowledge it because it makes me feel arrogant or boastful but it certainly is one of the reasons why I stick to here instead of going back.

>>154236
mods went through an extremely dedicated effort to purge Touhou from /v/ 24/7 so this is the result

¥Second AI ""Drama"" thread goes up
¥Shitters immediately flood it again
¥Mods don't do anything about it
¥Poor /jp/sie earnestly asks why the mods aren't doing anything
¥I tell them it's literally because they fucking hate us and the /j/ leaks prove it
¥Immediately get banned, shitters remain untouched of course
Incredible, absolutely incredible

>>154290
I'm glad most Touhoufags agreed to move to different sites. I wish I could say the same for my other interests. The anons of other topics I frequent came crawling back as soon as 4chan came back up

>>154292
Wouldn't niche topics thrive better in slower boards? Most of the time I keep seeing niche threads get thrown off to the archive because of the flood of shit threads.

>>154210
why would /v/hu get deleted? Aren't they all basic ass jp shitposts?

>>154299
The smaller boards collect traffic from people using main boards who share similar interests. There aren't enough people to hold a board devoted to origami. And on a smaller website not enough people would drop by compared to on 4chan. These boards don't even reach the threshold until becoming consistently off topic
But I'd wonder if those sorts of things should even have been their own boards in the first place?

>>154300
No, they're not. They're incomprehensible posts trying to emulate /dbs/ but with Touhou.

>>154302
i'm fairly confident they predate dbs by years

>>154303
If you mean the old /v/ touhou threads from like 2017-2020, yeah they were pretty much /jp/ gameplay threads. But ever since the last 3 years when they started getting nuked from the board because ABIB is retarded and hates videogames threads, they just emulate /dbs/ with /trash/ elements, gayposting, tributes, diaperfaggotry, and non-sensical spam posts because the original posters are either gone or went insane.

>>154301
Beating one of those smaller 4chan boards really woul't that hard if you can get a few dedicated people on board with you that are invested in the hobby as well.

>>154304
I think part of what killed gameplay discussion on /v/hu was "stalkeranon". There used to be so many people sharing 1CC charts but then one guy posted a screenshot of his folder full of 1CC charts that he saved from lurking threads and apparently this didn't go over well with most people. "stalkernanon" had already been a bit of an in joke prior to that happening but it seemed like that was the final nail in the coffin. Regardless, I find the whole debacle strange. People share their charts and progress over and over again but apparentl it's not okay for somebody to admit that they were interested in the progress that got shared? Why bother sharing progress in the first place? Makes no sense

>>154312
people are weird about anonymous sharing... it's shared but it's not supposed to be kept...

>>154306
You are describing creating a tiny pisscord server that inevitably devolves into drama and/or circlejerk a few years later.

>>154316
Drama... over origami?

>>154315
I guess it depends on the motivation, which could spell the difference between being a creepy weirdo and a normal oddball. Like collecting everyone's 1CC charts to make some sort of graph or plot over time is an acceptable autist hobby.
>>154317
You never know! A dedicated hobby group today may become tomorrow's paper crane cabal! — or something.

>>154317
People are fragile, especially in creative hobbies.

>>154312
Part of the appeal of imageboards is that the posts will go away in a few hours. You may be okay telling your buds about your game progress and some of them remembering a cool thing you did, but if one pulls out a video recording of what you said last week you probably wouldn't want to keep talking with him around.

>>154321
Pretty dumb false equivalence. It's more like getting upset over them keeping a photo that you agreed to take in the first place.
Besides, you are asking for an irc chat, not an imageboard if lack of history is your goal.

>>154323
>if lack of history is your goal
I would not blame anybody for keeping that goal, that is understandable, but if you're (somewhat) deanonymizing yourself by repeatedly posting something that distinguishes you, such as a 1CC chart (99% of the time they can be distinguished by distribution of clears), then you're not really working towards that goal. It's very counter intuitive
>>154321
>posts will go away in a few hours
technically not in 4chan's case because there's several third party archives

>>154290
I didn't know I had a 3 day for rule 8, I was just posting here and decided to try to post something on the OC thread there before finding out I had it. I hope the jans quit there at this point, the hate is warranted.

>>154326
getting banned over posting confidential info is at least more reasonable than over standard dunking on the staff

>>154327
anon did a better job than me, I just called them out on the filters thread that got deleted. in retrospect I probably should have dumped /j/ logs to hurt them more

>>154304
>If you mean the old /v/ touhou threads from like 2017-2020
no, I meant the /v/hu stealth general that's been playing cat & mouse with the mods for way longer than 3 years has posting habits that predate /dbs/ as a culture, and afaik never much caring about discussing the game on /v/ when it could be discussed elsewhere. Nothing I've seen from them reminds me of dbs.

And obnoxious gayposting is basically decade old /jp/ heritage in some circles. If that's your bar, I'd say you've turned /dbs/ into an undeserving boogeyman.

>>154312
if it makes no sense, chance are most posters hang out in some discord or IRC and stalkeranon is one of their injokes.

>>154290
I still want to keep an eye out to see if any reoccurring good threads pop up but honestly I'm just taking this as a good opportunity to force myself to become more acclimated to Kissu

>>154343
It's like a reverse old pre-/jp/split /a/

>>154387
Both of the game threads are nice at least since the bait threads serve as shitposting containment threads. I'll still post in the gameplay threads here since at least mods kill any potential thread derailers.

>>154386
That thread is genuine garbage, the fact that the mods sent it to 4/jp/ instead of deleting it really shows how much they regard that board.

Genuinely asking, what is the purpose of continuing to visit that poohole when all it does is to upset you? What good could possibly come from reading the opinions of /b/ teens who can't help but to shove at least 2 nu-chan memes into every post they make? I don't mind reading the 4chan gossip, it just frustrates me that you seem to keep going back even though you know that those people are below you.

>>154392
I guess its like watching the horror show get worse from the outside, but you are right, I should put it beneath me and move on.

>>154392
>Genuinely asking, what is the purpose of continuing to visit that poohole when all it does is to upset you?
People who do this always did it in the first place, and their love is pure nostalgia if not entirely fabricated. Some people are simply disabled that way.

4chan has it's uses, and it's general a preferable alternative to discussing hobbies on other communities.

>>154394
>but at least moot CARED for the site
more than one mod would be laughing at this statement

>>154423
I can confirm a janny was tailing a buddy I knew on his public irc because we kept coordinating posts on /g/ a few years back, they admitted to lurking the irc channel to know which thread we posted so they can delete it. They definitely have your IP and history of posts. Makes me want to dig through more of the /j/ dump

>>154427
>more than one mod would be laughing at this statement
I don't think so. If moot didn't care, he would've gave up much sooner and would've gone MIA like Hiro when you can't even talk to him on 4chan anymore (the best way is to reach out on Twitter as we found out during 4chan's downtime). It was only when 4chan started getting way more involved on the legal side and the newer parts of the website he couldn't keep in check that he bowed out. You might not call what he did "love" but he did actually set the bar for caring.

>>154429
>r and would've gone MIA
That's exactly what he did between 2008 and 2012,then returned, made /q/, hated it and disappeared again mid 2013 until gamergate, specially since he started networking with NYC tech people.

moot's cuntyness is legendary and the effed up, verbally abusive staff culture team4chan has is entirely his fault. "mootocracy" wasn't coined as a joke.

>>152995
>he replied to me, posting a screenshot of one of my posts
>he later *ALMOST* quoted what I said in that post while replying to me
I'm not even posting with the same posting pattern or anything. it's actually fucking over.

>>154809
What's different lately?

https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/279037723#p279066008
The private ban reason thing really triggered /pol/schizos.

onimai is a lolicon anime

>>154891
what was the post

>>154901
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/279037723/#279066008
Just the usual /pol/dditor having a meltdown over nothing and spamming gore, ugly trannies and wojaks.

>>154891
>>154903
I'm just noting that a certain type of posters seem to assign a very high importance to private ban reasons. It's fascinating.

>>154430
I myself consider the benign neglect years, where the mod/janny team dwindled to about a dozen in total, the best years of the safe for work boards.
Till about 2011 when /v/ being off topic started to make them lose their minds. Curing cancer with aids etc etc

>>154936
The main thing still present during that time was that moderation and the userbase was still in step with one another and the culture was still intact despite the inflow of newfags like me who were encouraged to lurk and learn stuff before contributing something of value. That meant moderation could do its job well and without much hassle and the way moot scaled the team or did replacements for people that did leave was fairly stable and didn't cause too much issue. The issues in the 2010s that massively affected 4chan and every other website was userbase growth outstripping what moderation could do to keep quality up on most boards and moot's circle finally doing itself in by inviting shit people who started to exert and abuse their positions instead of making the website better. That meant that we had IRL incidents related to the website that far outstripped and put the website on the wrong side of attention where as opposed to con panels and Chanology, you saw the website get dragged into some major issues that were stupider like 4chan being involved in Gamergate and the Fappening instead which threatened the website at its very foundations that the other events I mentioned in the 00s never did.

>>154976
I've thought about it enough to write a big long gay wiki article about it but in my opinion, being there, the prerequisite for the mods and userbase falling out of line with one another was /v/ in the leadup to /vg/'s creation.
Go back a few more years in 4chan's history and the zeitgeist defining events were the cultural collapse of invasions, the scientology stuff, and other broadly defined "offsite activism" as moot would come to call it. The general temperature of 4chan in the late 00's was ridicule of srsbsns.
It's in this context that the janitor team nearly went extinct, where there was no public janitor recruitment from 08-12. There were a few of them left (so few that when moot rebooted the program all the holdouts were summarily promoted to full moderators) and a dozen or so mods (some nominal and disengaged almost entirely, several oldfag mods would be delisted in the early 10's for this) left over from the 00's. Rule breaking threads of even a not so fun variety would stay up for half a day. It's in that sort of de facto very liberal rule enforcement that the sfw boards started to really speciate and it's during that time that /v/ was increasingly seen as "blue /b/" by both users and team4chan. But in the meantime it had been years of divergent evolution between /v/'s users, some of whom are perfectly happy with shitposting it up in "blue /b/", and the mods who were eventually paying attention more closely and trying to force /v/ back on topic.
The mods frustrations in this effort boil over in 2012 and the janitor program is essentially relaunched, /vg/ is spun off, and the moderation suite is rewritten to be less cumbersome for them to use in 2013. The first mover in all this is again to force /v/ back on topic. After years of very serious effort I think the mods mostly succeeded in driving the funposters off of /v/. And because of what happened to /v/ other boards and their culture is suddenly suspect in the mods minds because if they leave them alone, they figure they too might eventually develop into a blue /b/, they've seen it before after all. So the heavy handed intervention into /v/ starts to become the mods standard MO. To them it's an ounce of prevention, to the other sfw board users suddenly the mods are all up in their culture for no fucking reason.

That becomes the crux of the conflict between team4chan and 4chan's users. What was considered completely normal on the sfw boards c. 2010 becomes seen by the mods as a slippery slope to a board turning into nighttime /v/ in 2012.

The great irony in all of this is that in striving to make first /v/ and then the other sfw boards more doggedly on topic, by throwing out the funposters/shitposters/I just wanna hang out with my anonymous friends type posters, they created fertile ground for gamergate. Because who's left after your cultural iconoclasm? Why it's the people who take themselves, their board topic, and the internet at large very seriously. The selection effect was to me at least super obvious even back in 2014.
4chan continues to struggle to this day with maladjusted schizophrenics camping out their cause celebre's threads because the lackadaisical take it easy culture of shutting those people out is long dead, and the mods killed it.

>>154983
in a way, you can say those schizos got their way with /qa/ and /bant/, while also trying to take over the zeitgeist of other boards as well. I can only see why the mods ignored /qa/ and eventually shut it down, it festered out of people's frustrations with the site, the mod team, and the internet's social evolution as a whole. the whole soyjak thing getting more and more depraved when it became clear there was nothing anons could do to make anything better, so they just doubled down on making things worse until people gave up.

>>154992
>I can only see why the mods ignored /qa/ and eventually shut it down

I have to correct this again. No, the mods did not ignore /qa/, leading to wojaks. The mods took over /qa/, leading to wojaks. It became a project of theirs in which they would devote significant time to watching things and guiding the culture. Restrictions placed on the board back when we were using it were lifted. I don't have the motivation to find them again, but they got stickies and CSS stuff to help cement the board as the place for antisocial wojak stuff. The wojak /qa/ was their creation.
No tears were shed when the monster turned on its master.

The catalog freeze on /a/ just now lasted for over 30 minutes. 7 new threads were made during that time, they still have 0 replies.

>>155000
I don't remember it exactly since I only looked at /qa/ every once in a while and the board quality was worse than anything [s4s] posted. Considering how much the jannies hated the place, I could see them pushing wojaks and whatnot to a boiling point, then releasing them out to cause trouble, and as you mentioned, its funny to see they came back to kill the site and destroy the people who created them.

>>154983
>by throwing out the funposters/shitposters/I just wanna hang out with my anonymous friends type posters, they created fertile ground for gamergate. Because who's left after your cultural iconoclasm? Why it's the people who take themselves, their board topic, and the internet at large very seriously.
I wonder if this is why /jp/ was able to maintain such a relatively high level of quality for so long compared to the other blue boards? I only arrived in 2012, so I don't have any memories of what /jp/ was like before all of this, but in my memory even in my time our janny was relatively tolerant of this sort of thing outside of the really egregious shitposters like niggy.
But then again niggy's posts were directly aimed towards the janny, so maybe the change in moderation strategy had already begun and it just looked lenient to me since I had nothing to compare it to.
Thank you for posting this! It was a very interesting read.

>>155022
/jp/ had its meido(s) sourced from something other than the then in abeyance janitor drives which is a significant reason. You had an exception to the rule where you basically only had people who got into the position before 2008 being increasingly divorced from the user population of the site.
/a/ for its part had, until 2014, a senior moderator that believed it was his job to steer things as the majority of the userbase wanted and that it squarely wasn't his job to enforce a personal (or even egalitarian) vision for the board.

>>155009
Don't casually drop rl names of staff

>>154983
You are entirely correct.

I can independently corroborate this with my personal experience of the era.
My first board was /x/ during the shitposting peak of 2010-2011 and the lack of moderation was palpable. Got to the point tripfag shitposters had literally managed to make every thread on the frontpage talk about them. Since /x/ was a minor board unlike /v/ they just considered it collateral and did nothing to help.
/x/ ended up quite literally depopulating within a year from the sheer weight of attentionwhoring and trolling. By 2012 it had like a fifth the activity it had in 2010, and the original userbase started getting replaced by conspiracy schizos.

We may argue creepypasta culture on IBs ran it's course and the /x/ activity bubble was inevitably going to burst. But there's such things like a graceful death, and the death by a thousand cuts that poor community went through was definitely not it.

I'd argue, however, that Gamergate wasn't because of /v/. 2014 /v/ still was very blue /b/, stealth shitposting and LOL threads were at their peak of influence.
Gamergate was quite literally an exodus of banned newfags from reddit and games forums to /v/ and eventually boiled into culture war shitte when the mods also banned it. Pretty sure you can trace the increase in activity on /v/ due to GG

>>155000
>The mods took over /qa/, leading to wojaks.
This is incorrect. No, not just the fact you keep mixing feelguys with jaks. Mods never encouraged soyjak posts.

Those happened because the mods refused to allow janitor-level moderation, and at no point in time did mod-level moderation ever become frequent enough to stop problems in /qa/. They failed to stop quite literally every shitposting streak and coordinated raid on the board from the first to the last.
Matter of fact you can quite literally trace individual mod attention by checking modpost and (BANNED) history in desuarchive, you'll find it comes in 2-3 month spurts before the mod just loses interest and stops browsing the board.

I did my research: soyjaks only happened on /qa/ because of the actions of an actual jak spamming discord chat the mods failed to detect, one that was raiding /qa/, /int/ and /tv/ practically every day before they managed to takeover /qa/ and accidentally create the soyteen movement.

>>154992
> the whole soyjak thing getting more and more depraved when it became clear there was nothing anons could do to make anything better
That's literally what happened with /b/ in the 2000s. Matter of soyjaks and the sharty evolved in the exact same timeframe as the /b/sphere grew and imploded.

Truth is, soyteens are as generic and cookie cutter as they get as a social phenomenom. as far as the internet is concerned, this is the fifth or sixth time a phnomenom like this happened.

FYAD, /b/, /r9k//maidenless culture, /pol/, sharty. All have a similar evolution curve. I'm likely missing others.

>>155028
first that earns you a whomstquote
>saging while moderating

second do note quite a number of mods always had a public name ie both devs, swaglord, ALTERNATIVE, etc were always open about their identities.
matter of fact it's more common to call alternative by his first name
no idea who that post refers to, but to keep in mind that people who interacted with them may call them that way.

t. knower

>>155022
>I wonder if this is why /jp/ was able to maintain such a relatively high level of quality for so long
/jp/ had a best 4 years of high quality. Less than /tg/ or /co/ and definitely less than /a/.

From 2012 the board collapse as a literal rogues gallery of tripfags and trolls start coordinating off site to troll the fuck out of anything resembling a hikkimori.

>>155028
Why did you delete his post? Because "le doss"?
Unless he’s compiling the information into a profile it’s legal. I don’t know how you can criticize them and then turn around and defend them this way.
When the jannies and mods stalk anons that’s ok but dare to drop a admin name and everybody freaks.

Even if there is a no-tolerance policy regarding personally identifiable information here the 4chan administration deserves to be identified : ^ )

>>155104
>Did you guys not hear the news? 4chan is back already, why are you still posting on this thread?
You can take the metaposter out of the meta board but you'll never take meta out of the metaposter

>>155104
This is a much better place to talk about meta shit than so called "/hap/" on 4chan.

/controlled-opposition/

>>155141
That's a surprisingly insightful response in a thread with such a topic.
Also, burgers live like this???

>got banned because in a thread full of shitposting I interacted with the shitposting for 2 posts (complaining about the shitposting)
This is why everyone hates the fucking mods.

After evading my ban, every time I make a post in a different thread, I need to solve a hcaptcha and wait for 120 seconds. This is the new user experience. No wonder 4chan is dying.

Is it down?

>>155348 (me)
No, but it was fucked for a minute.

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/279207486/#279296786
Also spotted this. Double post with time going backwards.

>>155243
The 2 minute wait timer causes people to go somewhere else to post, then come back and spew shit because they were disincenivised to make a worthwhile post in time.

>>155095
I don't even think the theories of /pol/'s external Eternal September-ing hold water much less threads in /v/.
And contemporarily that was never how moot portrayed it either when he had all the motivation in the world to paint what was happening as some foreign aberration.
I think the flavor of vitriol you saw directed toward moot, along with how broad the hatebase really had become, really speaks to the home grown nature of what was happening. That isn't the sort of thing you'd see from recent transplants. Noobs don't have the history to conjure up those sorts of feelings of betrayal, hell they don't even have the context to see changes and then perceive them as betrayal.

>>155360
>I think the flavor of vitriol you saw directed toward moot, along with how broad the hatebase really had become, really speaks to the home grown nature of what was happening.
Well. Rebelling against 4chan then was "vogue", 2013 was the anti-staff shitposting year par excellence.
The anti moot hatefandom then was exclusively on /pol/ and mostly over the deletion and moderation of MUH JOOS posts. But in 2014 people were still seeing the culture war as a website-vs-website thing, SRS was still the boogeyman. It hasn't turned into "agree with my politics or you work for the enemy" shitfest yet and people talking about SRS infiltrating the mods were clearly asshats assblasted they got banned on reddit.

Yet, these days I'm of a half-mind that Reddit and 4chan had a far higher rate of crossposting compared to what people presumed then, but 4chan's anti-reddit purity spiral was so strong people would rather die than ever admit it. Add that to the Fappening being literally days apart and it makes me confident enough in saying there was a lot of "passive" knowledge of 4chan being the place for such events by the average reddit user.
When GG happened and the initial "quinnspiracy" ban wave happened - before the gamergate term was coined - it was very, very apparent a lot of people unaware of the culture were flocking to the zoe quinn threads. It only became more obvious after the news article wave.
I believe GG represented the introduction of a lot of people to an IB culture they were aware of but never actively part of, and their first core memory about it was being "betrayed" by 4chan. When denied /v/, the moved to /pol/ which was also utterly obsessed with reddit boogeymen (they kept with the SRS shit way after SRS died) and it spiralled into an all-out moot hatefandom.

>That isn't the sort of thing you'd see from recent transplants.
In my experience imageboard newbies are very prone to mask as established locals. One of the things that anonymous communication facilitates - it's both easy and tempting.

>>155384
>In my experience imageboard newbies are very prone to mask as established locals. One of the things that anonymous communication facilitates - it's both easy and tempting.
This is true
Proof: me

>>155384
But r*ddit IS the eternal enemy.
The way their forum operates is inherently in opposition to the anonymous imageboard.
They are at least as opposed as Jedi and Sith.

>>155387
and it's a fucking shame too that the fucking people couldn't push out the redditors.

You must be this much of a redditor to hate reddit so much. I am indifferent to sites I don't use.

>>155096
>as far as the internet is concerned, this is the fifth or sixth time a phnomenom like this happened
I never got to fart into the "community" but i definitely participated in ruining YLYL threads with the naked banana. There was an mega of pics and i think an IRC chat as well. I only ever downloaded the pictures from the mega but it sounds like a similar phenomenon to what your attributing here; just on a smaller and less organized scale.
From the outside DESU posting sounds like something similar.
Is there a particular term for these types of "memes" or "internet social phenomenom"? Has anyone got a write up of the history or general outline of how they evolve?

>>155390
I'm mad because they are colonizers.

>>155386
I constantly make fun of my coworkers for using reddit.
I have internalized an opposition to reddit, that I make sure is brought into the real world, as an true imageboard otaku must.

>>155394
I remember when I got my first tech job in 2018 and I was browsing /g/ on the company computer and my coworker remarked that all the text on my screen was green lol. Dude kept hyping up reddit for being great for tech stuff, but there I sat on a /g/ before it went total consumer electronics advertisement threads.

I’m mad.
About elves.

>>155394
You are a hero.

>>155394
i don't necessarily do this but i do consistently use a portmanteau'd slur to refer to reddit users, bordering on calling them niggers
believe it or not this is largely well received even among people who don't know anything about reddit, just because it sounds funny

>>155384
>I believe GG represented the introduction of a lot of people to an IB culture they were aware of but never actively part of, and their first core memory about it was being "betrayed" by 4chan.
This is really the heart of it. All the faggots who got banned from reddit and everywhere else where the mods participated in the coverup wound up on /v/ because it was about the only place where the topic was allowed (because the general subject matter wasn't new there) and got the false impression that the site was actually a bastion of free speech where they could organize their twitter activism. That naturally got the topic banned and everybody threw a fit because they couldn't accept that, which is why to 8chan, that bastard love child of 4chan and reddit, pushed free speech as its motto to grab up all the double refugees.

I really think if the mods had shut down the discussion like a week earlier then the initial migration would never have happened and that entire strain of IBs would likely never have been born. Conversely, if they'd never banned it then the migrants would have taken over while harboring very pro-mod sentiments instead of doing it anyway but with a massive hateboner for the site and everyone behind it. Neither path would have saved the site once it came into Hiro's possession, but it would have saved the mods a lot of pain if they had done basically anything except what they did.

>>155391
>but i definitely participated in ruining YLYL threads with the naked banana
literally worse than hitler

>>155386
That's what ex-redditors on 4chan pretended because they literally couldn't cope with getting permabanned from their subs.

That's how it all started. Reddit exiles unable to get over Reddit. Started appeared en masse on 2011-2 - right as Reddit started becoming a collection of anal retentive circlejerks - and somehow successfully convinced every follow generation of newfags to play ball.

The ACTUAL siths to 4chan's Jedis was twitter, and by the time we realized they were a problem they had already taken over site discourse and every thread OP while we were busy being paranoid over an increasingly irrelevant Reddit.

>>155391
>There was an mega of pics and i think an IRC chat as well.
I think you are interpreting my post as "this is the Xth time a small group organized to raid a forum" while I'm actually meaning to say "this is the Xth time an internet culture dominated by teenagers without moderators to keep them in check becomes an internet wide phenomenon widely reviled for it's shock content"

>>155405
>Xth time an internet culture dominated by teenagers without moderators to keep them in check becomes an internet wide phenomenon widely reviled for it's shock content
I was a teenager at the time I did this and arguable the same "unfunny" picture of a banana in a YLYL is a form of shock content. I can't speak for other people at the time but from my perspective your distinction doesn't really matter nor is it one I am making but your point is taken.

>>155406
I think you are correct, as in such groupings are really how it all starts out. you are posting on a site that's the distant descendant of another group starting a whole subculture - siztra's skype/irc, trevor, niggy, etc all were major contributors to getting the /jp/sphere started. Two sites downstreet there's the sharty that's also the less distant descendant of a chatroom of more obscure chatroom raiders.

An old /qa/ck once told me literally last month how non-anonymous chatrooms dominating the evolution of anonymous content creation has been an open secret in IBs since the raspberry heaven IRC opened 4chan. Not the entire anonymous zeitgeist mind, but the OC-making side of it is determined by such a small pool of actors that if a 4mod went said it few anons would believe him. It shocked me how much sense it made.

>>155404
>The ACTUAL siths to 4chan's Jedis was twitter,
True I think for pre-Musk twitter. Definitely not for "X"
There's shitshows on there that rarely would be allowed on 4chan, and despite not being anonymous in spirit, it is allowed still, and relative nobodies can and do ratio famous people regularly.

I would call it more an evil twin, but that could also just be some sort of convergence.

>>155387
This is how I feel about modern 4chan.
4chan used to be a place for like-minded people, a big "us", like an entire website made for me and my parasocial friends. Now, it's a reddit and /pol/ garbage dump with only some good threads hidden under the trash, which you have to dive through to find the good stuff.

>>155410
i would say yes, old twitter fags saw us a discount twitter they were forced to post in to avoid autobans, and now that X dropped the moderation aspect, we are not even a poor man's twitter.

What will become of 4chan in the next 5 years will be interesting to see. But honestly, I expect such an extreme move towards speech control worldwide taht the US govt will end up just killing 4chan because they can't adapt the moderation methods by design.

>>155384
The nature of what happened during "happenings" wasn't inter-site, it's inter-board.
What spurred the general anti staff feelings, /v/'s crackdown exported as standard operating procedure to unrelated boards and their culture, also allowed it to concentrate during a happening. For example /pol/ grew by fits and spurts, driven by current events. No one in 2012 was seriously fleeing Reddit to come balloon /pol/'s population during the Zimmerman trial, /pol/ burgeoned with crossboarders coming for the event of it all. Afterwards some would stay on /pol/, some would quit posting until the next happening, but regardless /pol/'s makeup of old /new/smen was shaken up right quick.
And while I had personally quit /v/ almost as soon as /vg/ came into existence, like plenty of other people when the nascent gamergate rolling general appeared on /v/, I was crossboarding right there myself to gawk and argue at the meta of it all. Making early versions of the points I'm making right now and further up the thread.
And this is all in addition to my original point that /v/ itself had been primed with a certain selection of posters, even if a minority, that were ready to find themselves in those threads all deathly serious about agitating for change out off-site.
>very prone to mask as established locals
In my experience, besides my points about betrayal needing real context and broad fast movements necessarily being organic, they aren't very successful at larping when they try.

>>155387
/tv/ has retained more of the pre-general thread engagement of any of 4chan's media boards. I think it's severely over hated.

Did it go down again today? Am I supposed to believe they actually fixed anything after the hack?

>>155424
Works on my machine

>>155494
there is a whole tech board dude >>>/maho/, just ask there, I will answer you there

I'm an old man. Explain the shitposting around "AGP" to me.

>>155517
It's terribly generic kuso 4chan trolling/obsession. Nothing else to say as it's not worthy of mention.

>>155517
tldr another word for trannies, but a certain variety based on their behavior

>>155517
the blanchardian schemata
an autogynephile (AGP) is said to get off to the idea of being a woman, derived from their own body, so intrinsically motivated to t-out
while an HSTS or homotrans in contrast wishes to t-out in order to become a good wife, externally motivated, truexemplary female role model trapped in a man's body
scientifically speaking there are a lot of issues with how he decided to outline this, the procedures, and that biological women get off from their own bodies as well, but the above ideas stuck and AGP is predominantly used as an insult or by /lgbt/ trooners fond of the word hon

>>155534
are autism speedrunner programming socks trannies a third type or just more AGP

keep it on 4chan instead of bringing your trash here

>>155537
according to shitposters, the latter

>>155494
I saw it but it stopped showing up after a couple of videos.

>>155534
>blanchard
This fuck again.

>>155506
sorry, didn't even know that board existed.

https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/279708793#p279709926
Supposedly a post got insta banned within a thread that normally would get deleted in seconds by any mod.
Rogue mod, clearly.

>call someone a newfag
>my post gets deleted
honestly can't tell if I stepped on a janny's tail or what

https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/49588927
Good try, but the mods are letting them stay and shit everything up

>>156299
Looks like a case of General Syndrome, which is kind of apt for a /jp/ infection I suppose.

>>156303
In the past I considered applying to be the janitor of /fa/ because the board appeared to have no moderation. You could post clearly NSFW material and it would stay up for days. But like you I thought having to dox yourself and sign a contract was ridiculous, and the video interview is news to me but even more laughable.

>>156303
Yeah, that drove me away too. The 0 cybersecurity is just a nail in the coffin. I don't think the site has even recovered the amount of lost jannies.

>>156303
They would have fired you immediately for messing with their "visions", or simply for doing too much.

>>156299
Dead. Mods sure took a while before deleting it.

>>156323
I said it on warosu and I will say it here, they are enabling them, so there is no longer a point to being on 4/jp/.

>get a 3 day ban for some trivial post in a thread full of shitposting, even whose only purpose is shitposting
Just /a/ janny things. Did anyone kill any of the doxxed retards yet?

Even though the captchas and timers are practically bullying every new or occasional posters into leaving the site, ban evasion is easier than ever.
Thanks, acutie.

https://desuarchive.org/c/thread/4411020/#4415394
Literally who?

>>152995
final update: the "resident retard" is a fetish schizo who I bullied for like a month. he barely posts now because he doesn't give a shit about the general's topic; he just jumps into the threads to post his fetish shit and then fucks off. I stopped engaging with him because I realized he actually loves attention (he has specifically mentioned me multiple times in the thread, even when I stopped replying to him).

he is 100% a janny. he keeps replying to me (not too frequently but consistently) with his gross fetish shit despite me not even replying to his posts. I'm not posting the same words or anything so there's no obvious pattern. the first three or four times? I thought it could be a coincidence but no, he's specifically targeting me.

I always found it weird that when people talked shit about his fetish while he was actively posting, their posts would get deleted.

Did 4chan.gay auto solve captchas at any point?
Currently it doesn't seem to be able to.

>>156302
I was going to say same but I got a job and unfortunately I'm missing all the Kissu game sessions because of timezones.

>>156306
>I don't think the site has even recovered the amount of lost jannies.
It really hasn't. I don't know if it's just me but more and more shitposters and baiters keep running amok on there, and nothing gets done about it. I can barely tolerate /a/ now, /v/ has 24/7 SKG threads with faggots talking like Chanology newfags back in 2008 thinking they're righteous crusaders against evil, etc etc. Fucking eceleb threads on /a/ stay up. The hack must have fucked over 4chong worse than I thought. The demographics are changing, and it'll probably only get worse.

>>157080
there are multiple /v/hu threads on 4/jp/ and the "visitors" are definitely dragging all of the surrounding threads down with them.

>>157080
Not to mention that CP spam in threads is way more common too. Usually coming from some assmad faggots who want to tank certain subjects because the anons in those threads hurt their feefees.