No.150799
>>150797>LORAStable diffusion is shit. You can do a lot with it, but it's always restrictive. It's like digging a hole with a straitjacket on because you glorify technical progress.
AI still has to get better before your argument is valid.
No.150803
>>150799It's factually happening right now, you get the AI to gen the image and then edit it to fix all the inconsistencies.
You have some weird expectations for AI, and refuse to use it until it reaches some utopic standard of quality.
No.150806
>>>/maho/3096While it's nice people are very interested in discussing AI, the happenings thread should be mainly for happening discussion. So here's a thread that I advise people to use all further discussion of the AI acceptability argument from this point forwards. Otherwise we may have to start moving stuff.
No.150807
i said all of what you said with a single cross-board cite and I think they're smart enough to get the point...
No.150809
>>150796It's more so that artists actually have pride in their work and like their hobby and then programmers tell artists to not have pride in their work and not enjoy their hobbies.
No.150810
I didn't read the posts right above me telling people to stop.
No.150811
>>150806Instead of deleting the posts and banning people, you decided to talk about the situation and give to the posters another option. I don't understand why 4chan moderation can't be like this, people would hate them less
No.150812
i would prefer if he were less keigo about it but whatever, I guess people do need a bit of a post...
No.150816
she keigo on my dick till I cum
No.150818
>>150812>i would prefer if he were less keigo about it Why do you like being rude? :/
No.150820
>>150811Sometimes they move threads to another board (where the content is even more rule violating), but that doesn't make anons calmer.
Moderation needs consistency and transparencies, then it doesn't matter how dumb the rules or consequences of violating them are.
No.150822
>>150554Because the admin likes to play with it and it doesn't come up enough for people to complain about it. I don't mind letting people discuss LLMs as long as they aren't posting the crap it generates all over the place or trying to scam people into thinking it's the next big thing.
No.150824
>>150823Who's going to replace /k/ though?
No.150825
>>150823isn't /k/ a pseudo pol after the military operation
No.150829
>>150811With the number of jannies and mods assigned per board, it's really no wonder they all just give up and act like absolute fags in time. I took a look out of curiousity, and /v/ has something close to 52,000 posts per day on average. If I remember correctly, there were at most 30 jannies responsible for cleaning up /v/ in particular, based on these leaks, which would mean each of them would have to read 1733 posts in order for them to keep a close eye on the state of the board and make properly informed decisions. This ignores the fact that quite a few jannies are assigned other boards as-well.
No.150830
>>150823/f/ since /f/ will actually be dead. And /po/ is in danger too. It's also possible that /jp/ will see a sudden rise in posts and then die a terrible death.
No.150832
I'm not familiar with /f/. Would it make sense to turn it into a museum with posting disabled?
No.150833
>>150832Did /f/ even have any posting activity? I browsed it occasionally for fun and I thought it was already basically that
No.150835
>>150734With /f/ I gave up on trying to make flash work on the browser. In the end I would download the files and open them in one of the players included in Flashpoint.
In newgrounds the original flash files can be run on an external isolated player installed on Windows for extra compatibility, but I doubt they would bother with something like that.
Does SWFchan have protections in place, or they simply are not worried about being hacked?
No.150837
>>150833Like a post(as in thread) or two a day I believe? I went there once a week.
>>150832There is swfchan as an archive.
No.150838
>>150835it would be extremely simple to allow /f/ to run flash on the browser
they won't do it because they never do anything, but it's very simple
No.150839
>>150838The flash plugin is dead. You must mean that replacement written in JS.
Anyway, they're even removing PDF uploads, even though that should be trivial to fix. Maybe they will bring it back later. Not that I believe they really will.
No.150840
>>150832We already had something like that with /flash/, the 4chan internal flash archive. And no, it would not make sense, since we wouldn't be able to post rare kino.
>>150833Yes, we had enough activity to warrant a visit every 3 days. Also, if important news dropped or we had anything to celebrate, I would announce it on /f/.
No.150843
>>150839yes, that's what I meant
No.150844
>>150761The magic of vector graphics!
No.150846
>>150765The most lol project in 4chan history
No.150847
>Error 503 Backend fetch failed
8chan dead again?
No.150848
nodeJS must have run out of memory and crashed
No.150853
yeah we don't regulate them here. only moderate them
https://banners.kissu.moe/But this isn't a happening
No.150855
>>1508478chan's dead
Tell you're friends
No.150865
>>150853>>150851I love imageboard banners so much. 8 moe /v/ has some good ones
No.150872
>>150853Interesting. I didn't know that you could upload your own banners and point them to other places. I assumed it was something admins and mods did as a joke.
>>150865I made a bunch of the banners 8chan uses on the site and in specific boards, including the default banner. I hope the banners I made are among the ones you liked.
No.150877
What's the rationale behind removing /f/? Was there any server side code that deals with swf files?
No.150880
>>150877They have no idea what they are doing with their own code, that much is clear.
They just don't care anymore.
No.150882
>>150877Reasons I 'm speculating about
>lots of special code that requires auditing and/or fixing>it's entangled with other board code, which they had to change to fix something, and it was too hard to get /f/ work again>invocation of special tools that process swf files and which they couldn't install on their new OS>they found an actual security issue they thought was too hard to fix No.150883
>>150877They're too lazy and incompetent to make it work again
No.150884
>>150877My theory is that since they don't have the time, resources and IQ to audit or rewrite 4chan's ancient code they simply put a couple of additional barriers, changed everyone's passwords, and disabled file uploads of formats that aren't jpg/png/gif/webm/mp4, effectively killing /f/ and probably /po/ as a side effect.
No.150885
Someone could just try to look at /f/ in the leaked source code. I don't know where it is and I'm too busy to do that.
No.150886
/f/ still has its threads listed on 4stats.
Worst case, we're only seeing a snapshot of the catalogs and the threads actually are gone like that time when mods wiped out like 10 boards and deleted the images of others, and /f/ is closed and delisted like /qb/. If that's the case, I doubt the slower boards will recover from this, specially if they already have a bunker elsewhere.
No.150887
On /3/, they were worried that the board would die after the great board wipe. I don't know what the state of it was until the recent downtime.
No.150888
>>150887To elaborate, it was a very slow board. Tons of useful stuff was in still active threads, which probably also served to concentrate the few regular posters. I'm not a /3/ regular and could be wrong.
No.150889
On the plus side, this means we will never get the backdoored glownigger image formats.
No.150890
>>150888wouldn't that mean everything was archived?
No.150891
>>150718In actuality men are just lazy bumfucks.
No.150895
>>150823/k/ wont die
i know this for a fact that most of the new blood are literal homos who crossdress and is into firearms
also /k/ is very popular in online small arms spaces
>>150825Not really folks still talk about weapons.
No.150898
>>150888/3/ is a quasi porno board
No.150911
>>150567>He not only uses AI, he uses it prolifically, enthusiastically. no surprise here, japs pioneered cutting corners digitally on art.
No.150913
>>150678froot iirc owns kolyma and has access to the mail. that checks
No.150919
>>150715At some point someone has to stop and ask desuwa what the fuck is his problem with /f/'s board code, because it can't be over ruffle.
No.150922
>>150913why do people trust these individuals
No.150925
>>150922People are very gullible. I don't know why the fake emails are still convincing people. It's probably something about human psychology with people being easily influenced during times of stress.
No.150929
>>150922kolyma was created by uuuh he who kissu hates and the janny with that mail was a friend of his (he dissappeared after geting doxxed iirc). his friend forgot he sold his site to froot
froot is the owner of the shart and hasn't done anything more extreme than typical forum circlejerks. he just specifically hate that guy and would gladly spy on his friends.
also yes that guy actually got a guy to "infiltrate" 4chan
No.150935
I laugh at 4chan for not seeing through "that guy"'s ploys and having their staffed stuffed with soyjack agents
No.150937
>>150929being owner of the shart and having anything to do with "that guy" is shady enough to me
No.150941
i laughed very hard when I saw that kolyma email domain in the 'ack wiki page
No.150943
>>150935And so obvious...
No.150946
>>150935Do you remember the stickies that had used soyjaks? I remember those.
The mods deserved it
No.150947
>>150946Link?
This sounds like a punchline for the history books.
No.150950
>>150947I couldn't believe it. It wasn't a sticky, but they were basically endorsing it
https://archive.is/RMUC1And it turns out that they did it again, on /pol/. One day before the hacker attacked. One. Day.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/502813617 No.150952
>>150950Forget that, 4 days. But it's still funny
No.150953
>>150950>This thread has been stickied>This thread has been locked>This thread was deletedJanny are you ok?
No.150960
>>150947This is the 4/qa/ wojak sticky:
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3404114It's a bizarre image because it copied stuff from other boards to fill it out to make it not 100% wojaks. It mostly shows that higher level 4chan staff were on /qa/ during the wojak age to respond to these threads.
This is the vtuber wojak css thread, again during the wojak age:
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3730633/Basically it demonstrates endorsement (via high end mod/manager actions) of the wojak army that eventually turned on its masters.
No.150963
>>150960>bring back /l/>janny dogThis really is just a shitpost collage obviously full of stuff the mods normally disagree with.
No.150964
>>150877The /f/ codebase was ancient, it didn't run on the same software as the rest of the site. Whenever they did fucky things with the site (like 04/01), /f/ didn't get anything. /f/ used the old recaptcha, and /f/ used the "Marked for deletion (old)" version of pruning threads (where old threads get removed regardless of activity). Probably just too lazy to update and also maybe some vulnerabilities in the .swf format, idk.
No.150972
good night everynyan :333
No.150979
>>150976I think I've seen this in some manga. Rumiko's recent Mao comes to mind but I'm sure I've seen this elsewhere.
No.150980
>>150964Thanks, that makes sense.
Too bad textboards also had to go but that's ancient history.
No.150996
>>150979it's in inuyasha too
No.151000
new interesting board on 22chan:
https://22chan.org/www/ No.151012
>>1508204mods move threads to kill them while taking a diarrhea shit on the board they flushed it to. Rarely was it used in good faith.
No.151013
It's too funny that the 4chan mods made /trash/ to move garbage threads to it, and now a user made /trash/ is one of the most active boards on 8chan.
No.151015
>>150980Yeah, the textboards were having spam issues, and instead of trying to port the imageboard antispam over to shi
tchan, they deleted it.
I miss all those old shiichan hacks, like infinitely nested quotes and replying to locked threads.
No.151016
>>151013/trash/ was already one of the most active boards on 4chan. I guess that many generals just migrated to 8moe
No.151018
>>151013Furries are crazy
No.151078
>>151000Thank you for linking. May I ask what the history of 22 is? I'm wondering what it spawned from.
No.151081
>>151013Turns out that 4chan users enjoy trash.
No.151097
>>150715Someone on IRC wrote that 4chan would get a new batch of jannies from India. A screenshot got posted on 8/a/. They all believed it like a mod said this and it was literal.
No.151105
>>151097Would be fucking hilarious though, especially if they'd let pajeets to handle ban appeals.
No.151116
A transfem hacked 4chan
What are you thinking about it
No.151117
>>151116about par for the course if true
No.151124
Good moin everynyan :3
No.151127
>>151123Tell me about Bane! Why does he bloody redeemed!?
No.151133
>one of 8chans server got tasken down by germany
>reason was an anime girl doing a roman salute in a banner
Nazi website.
No.151134
CHICKEN JOCKEY ?️?️?️
No.151135
>>151133more like nazi country tehe
No.151137
>>151133so much for free speech
No.151141
reddit links are not a happening.
No.151142
Does reddit count as imageboard or as textboard?
No.151147
>>151142OP has image rights, everyone else doesn't from what I vaguely know about reddit.
No.151150
>>151142Well, they're bad as an imageboard, and they're bad as a textboard as well.
I don't know what the appeal of the place is from a platform perspective; all they seem to have going for them is their own momentum.
No.151151
>>151140
Lurk for 10,000 years before posting again.
No.151152
>>151147They recently added image comments, but it's up subreddit moderators to enable them.
No.151154
>>151150The nested reply shit and the random order of replies is so confusing. Why do some chan users want nested replies? 4chan-x and some altchans can do that.
No.151158
>>15107822Chan was created around June 18th, 2018 as a Highschool project, then on the 27th, it was made public and a question was asked on 4chan: "What boards should be added, and what rules should they have?" This changed the fate of the site forever.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190604235448/https://22chan.org/timel/screenshot.png The idea was simple, a bunch of 4channers were tired of the cancer killing 4chan, so rules were added to help it avoid the same fate. After 8chan went down, 22chan ended up absorbing a lot of users from there too. I can probably elaborate more if you want.
No.151162
>>151154Yeah I despise it. The Western internet would probably be in a bit healthier shape had they had adopted a 2ch variant instead.
No.151166
>>151154In theory, nesting makes comment chains in a very long thread easier to follow.
In practice, it segregates conversation early, so only replies to the most popular chains get enough eyeballs to get more replies.
IMO, the core of the problem is that platforms even *want* to scale discussion past the point where users can read the whole thread.
No.151167
>>151150Community? UX complaints is a (You) problem
>>151166Just sort it by new then.
No.151169
>>151167>Just sort it by new then.That doesn't undo the segregation. Most posters will still end up replying back-and-forth in one or two comment chains, often past the point where they've run out of things to say, while ignoring the rest of the thread.
No.151171
>>151158Thank you very much! Am I seeing it correctly that the culture there seems to be similarly friendly, just with less emphasis on /jp/ and more on sharing creative efforts? I'm mostly intrigued by the Nico posts on the new board.
No.151172
>>151171Yeah, 22chan never really had a cultural niche of it's own, so the creative effort thing is correct. Although, the /jp/ and nico nico thing seems to be quite popular since the site got revived a few years ago.
No.151175
it's it's. I see
No.151218
4CHAN IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.151220
>>151218I'm honestly not even sure if I want to use that place.
No.151229
>>151218I hope it closes back again and never goes back online. Fuck that place.
And fuck Hispachan too now that we're at it.
No.151233
>>151218They deleted /qa/ but left /qb/ and /asp/ up.
lol
No.151237
>>151218I hope enough posters stick around on the good altchans to sustain some of the extra traffic.
It's been fun here, and I'm sorry if my bad posting habits sometimes slipped out.
No.151239
>>151238Isn't it just because not everyone knows it's back up yet?
No.151240
>>151239most likely
it will take at least 1-2 days for people to go back
No.151242
>>151238There's a fucking 2 minute timer, dude
No.151243
>>151239Naturally, but what percentage of the original population returns remains to be seen.
No.151244
imageine waiting 2 minutes to post
No.151245
>>15124390% if i had to pull a number out of my ass
No.151246
>>151244just pay for passu
No.151248
>>151241I did both grow and learn from the downtime. I'm not going back. Fuck 4chan
No.151257
>>151250Doesn't bother me I haven't posted on it in years anyway.
No.151259
where would anons be without the jav general on /jp/
No.151260
>Performing site maintenance.
It's over for /f/
rip (or f)
No.151261
>>151259It is disquieting to remember anons browse 4chan without "general" filtered in the op.
No.151263
did they take down the 4chan search at some point. What was the URL?
No.151264
Taking bets on how long it'll be before it's down again. Since I know there is no way they put any effort towards fixing the various bugs in the aging source code. If I didn't have my hard personal rule about not taking things down for the lulz anymore I could probably have it down again within the hour. I'm sure someone out there is already working on it.
No.151265
>>151260I'm just happy to see that Rapeman Forever is one of the final posts there.
No.151267
find.4chan.org timing out
No.151270
I bet this was a test.
No.151271
>>151266lol they aren't even offering a real bounty. Just a passu. I'm so tempted to break my rule/morals and start fishing around to see what they neglected to fix.
No.151272
/a/ catalog looks the same as my last refresh. Just the wind
No.151275
Did they fuck over 4chanX? Was noticing that my captcha kept constantly refreshing.
No.151277
>>151276classic HIro cheaping out
No.151282
>>151276I would get bigger thanks hacking the site and trolling everyone than being put on a long list of boring names. Why would anyone take their offer when they can do so much more fun things?
No.151283
>>151279now that was fast
No.151284
>>151270Whatever it was, we failed.
No.151285
>Third-party software and services that we use, such as nginx and CloudFlare, should be reported to the appropriate parties and are not eligible for a reward from us. We'd appreciate a head's up and will credit you on our Thanks page though!
OUR PASSES AREN'T THAT CHEAP YOU KNOW!
No.151286
Around 600 posts in 40 minutes.
No.151287
down detector friends general that was just made in /bant/ weirdly moved to /test/
boards.4chan.org/bant/thread/22562044
No.151288
I cant refresh the page
No.151289
>>151275It worked for me. Maybe that bug is why they locked posting again.
No.151290
Catalog on /v/ seems kind of fucked when using the native extension
No.151292
I can't post
No.151293
4chan happenings thread unceremoniously killed
reason unclear
No.151294
OH MY HECKIN 4CHAN WERE SO FUCKING BACK!!!! I MISSED ALL THE BOTS AND JANNIES HANDING OUT 3 DAY BANS LIKE CANDY!!!!!
No.151295
>>151293/bant/ is just in a fucked state.
No.151296
>>151293Reason: nothing's happening. Move along, citizen.
No.151297
The entirety of /bant/ just got purged
No.151301
they might as well just kill /bant/ as well
No.151302
It's weird as fuck that the dev stickied the tenshi thread, but no announcement, no headsup, no nothing. I almost thought they put the site on the internet by mistake.
No.151303
>>151297they should've done this to all boards but the slowest ones
restarting with a clean slate
No.151304
they deleted /qa/
No.151305
Seems like I can't refresh, guess they still testing shit
No.151306
delete /pol/
No.151307
Oh, the threads is locked. Can post in other threads.
No.151309
>>151294>shitpost>get banned>turn modem off and on>get unbanned>shitpost againyou lack the knowledge, teen.
No.151310
Is it just the same damn software on an updated OS? Isn't this crazy?
No.151313
>>151311>sticky got locked>can't post in some threads>can post in other threadsVery fucky.
No.151314
>>151310did you really expect anything else
No.151316
>>151315aipri thread as well
something or someone is going berserk
No.151319
>>151150Early days it was because it served as a meme aggregator where the most popular stuff would float to the top so people with lives didn't have to spend all day lurking 4chan to get the hottest new lolcat and people without lives could get internet points for doing so. Then it was a source of social media engagement that let everyone use a pseudonym. Now it's because it's a permanent host for lots of niche questions that have been answered by actual human beings and affirms by community members. It's the refuge for people who realize the modern web is shit but either don't know about or won't put in the effort to dig beneath the surface layer of top 10 sites.
>>151154They're useful for blog posts with like three comment chains and they do make it much easier to follow long conversations. They just require that the conversation be an orderly affair where people take their turn replying to the latest post. The more people pile into the conversation, the less likely that becomes.
No.151320
>>151316Best case, the dev is testing shit.
No.151321
>>151320Do we really want to assume best case? I think the mods are now out for blood.
No.151322
>>151321The captcha is literally dead, they dont want people posting.
No.151324
Also didn't think about it while 4chan was down but it's nice being able to just press ctlr+enter to post and not type in any captcha.
No.151325
>>151313Some threads are also returning connection errors when updating, but not all. I don't know how that even happens.
No.151326
>>151311I'm unironically thinking their literally testing right now.
In production.
No.151327
>>151315>>151316Maybe they got archived but the archive function doesn't work yet? There was a flurry of new threads and lots of bumping.
No.151331
So they meant to put it up read only and fucked it up
Classic
No.151332
>>151322I just posted. It works sometimes.
No.151334
>>151326Did you see all those -test.php files? If that's how they tested, I can't believe it.
No.151338
>>151332teach me how to do it
can't get a captcha in most threads and in those that I can I get a connection error
No.151339
>>151315But why
>>151327I posted on it a minute before it got 404 so assuming bumping was working that cannot be
No.151340
>>151335You mean best case.
No.151345
>>151339Now it seems like random threads got deleted. A bit of a dick move.
No.151348
>>151276>he reports exploits on an anonymous imageboard>he does it for freeSeriously, why would anyone report to get their name on this page nobody will ever look at when they could exploit it and throw the entire IB sphere into chaos earning them a spot in internet history?
No.151352
>>151154>Why do some chan users want nested replies?I like the system 4chan has, or maybe it's a feature of 4chan-x, I dunno. Where you can click on a reply and it will get nested within the post you're reading, and you can do this for replies to that reply and so on. On Kissu you can only view the replies to the post you're reading, and on some imageboards you can't even see the replies made to the posts at all.
No.151355
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/278109778Made this, it doesn't appear in the catalog yet. Or maybe never?
No.151358
All threads are disappearing..
No.151362
This is so fucked, I'm convinced the devs added multiple bugs and it's simply shitting itself hard.
No.151367
/g/ turned into /a/ somehow
and no it's not only the OP pics
No.151370
We finally getting the april fools we deserved!
No.151371
>>151367>/g/ turned into /a/Finally we fixed nu/g/!
No.151374
Anyone knows where the gochi thread went?
No.151376
>All boards except /a/ get deleted
Finally...
No.151377
>>151367The Penguindrum just flew over my house!
No.151378
I can't post but other people seem to be able to
No.151380
See you soon!
No.151383
See you soon!
No.151386
Well, guess I'll go bike a little.
No.151389
Are those able to post using p.4chan?
No.151392
this was an entertaining shitshow
No.151393
How can they be so incompetent?
Why would they not at least test if everything worked before going back online?
No.151394
what's a sandbox for if not to let tards play in it?
No.151395
>>151348Why not? Nothing malicious about it.
No.151397
>>151391Beautiful.
Now I wouldn't be mad if 4chan will truly be dead.
No.151399
>>151393why would they have put in any effort?
that's just how 4chan has been run for the last years
it was funnier this way too
No.151400
How can some people post?
No.151401
>>151393I think this was the test
No.151402
>>151398Also some threads were left locked.
What an amazing shitshow.
No.151413
>>151405Please don't be real.
No.151415
https://boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/39505747#p39505747First post on /lgbt/ since the haxxx
>reality was hard and im going through severe fagslop withdrawal after the outage, please supply me your fagslop No.151419
So from the limited time the website was back up, this was the list of changes I could see.
>New captcha, breaks associated userscripts people used for solving them easier.>Removed pdf uploads from /po/ and /gd/. Should be obvious since this was what was exploited as claimed and seems like this confirms it.>/qa/ which was brought back from its vegetative state during the hack has now been entirely nuked off the website and the associated vandalism on multiple boards has also been deleted.>/f/ is effectively static and dead, uploads of swf files are disabled>They added https://www.4chan.org/security for cybersecurity reporting. Better late than never but the rewards are frankly kinda shit so I doubt anyone would report unless they loved the website that much.Dunno if I missed anything but this is a pretty short list of changes and definitely not worth the 11 days we were down.
No.151420
>>151413how do I move threads?
I have a lot of stuff that I want out of /jp/ for... reasons.
No.151423
>>151419Didn't the bug bounty thing always exist? It was just never used. I recall there being people's names on it a few years back.
No.151425
>>151423It seems like it from the usernames reported so I was wrong about that item, scratch that. Guess it was entirely ineffective because of the shit rewards.
No.151427
>>151419>>151423Yes it's old. Almost nobody knew that it existed.
No.151428
THE SITE DIED JUST WHEN I WAS TELLING /cm/ ANONS TO USE KISSU'S /ec/ AND 8CHAN'S /cutemale/ AS BUNKERS FOR FUTURE DOWNTIMES
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.151429
>>151420Out of the 6 new threads that popped up on /jp/ just now, 2 of them were vtumor threads lol.
No.151432
Honestly I'm starting to realize I was never performing masculinity right, because my reaction to learning about p*rnstars when I was younger wasn't "ew they're run through"
It was, holy shit, these beautiful women are having a ton of sex, sex is cool right?
No.151435
Seeing anime next to all the frogs on /g/ is a bit of a culture shock desu
No.151437
>>151428Kissu provided you refuge and this is what you do in return?
No.151442
>>151419If Newgrounds can have working SWF files why can't 4chan?
No.151445
>>151442They just don't care.
No.151446
>>151250Some anons will choose to stay. I plan to.
No.151449
>>151435/a/ seems to be raising /g/ for their incompetence
No.151451
What are they doing on /test/?
No.151453
>>151451Unspeakable forms of ERP beyond human comprehension.
No.151455
>>151303fucking be yourself faggot
>>151428your post went through, don't worry
No.151458
Is it just me or is 4chan throwing "connection errors" based off of certain images or something? I can't post some images even when I throw them fresh out of editing software, but throw in anything else and it just shows up instantly.
No.151463
>>151458Some blocked images caused this.
No.151465
>>151463>some blockedmy images are literally who though
is it just a filter going haywire?
No.151467
>>151465It seems to be random. Maybe still fucked.
No.151483
>>151481Scary
Glad they're still at their game though.
No.151484
>>151481pretty obvious he experienced it through hearsay and not firsthand
No.151487
>>151250It's not the posts per minutes that count, but the quality.
There was nothing left for me there months ago when I exiled myself, and I don't expect it to be now.
No.151488
Anyone have some screencaps from /g/ turning into /a/? I forgot to make one and would like to remember this historic event
No.151489
>>151488Aw shit, I also forgot.
No.151490
Captcha is shitting itself again
No.151494
>>151490It's not captcha, it's sys.
>>151491This is one of the moved threads.
No.151496
>>1514914chan is not loading for me, can someone post that Akarin pic?
No.151497
When I sort threads by creation dates in the 4chan catalog, they're sorted by OP post number, not date. It looks like even old threads got new post numbers. Fascinating.
No.151500
>>151497Same things happens here when a thread is moved
No.151503
>>151497I bet they used AI
No.151507
>>151503I really hope so, it would be really funny if they needed 2 more weeks of downtime.
No.151511
>>151489>>151509Modern hero, I appreciate it!
No.151512
>>151509>Maki thread on /g/Not sure if /a/ or not..
No.151559
Various pinned threads were moved to the test board.
No.151571
>>151559How do you know this? /test/ is not public.
No.151572
There's a 2 minutes timer for every post, at least it's not 15 like it used to.
No.151574
>>151571nta but you can see on the archive
No.151576
>>151572>every postI'm posting without any issue
No.151580
>>151576An anon in a thread said that he had a 2 min timer too but it went up to 5.
No.151583
>>151580Might have something to do with cookies
No.151585
>>151572They probably reset all state, so instead of letting all anons wait 15 minutes, they reduced it to 2 minutes. Also there was a bug too where I had to wait multiple times if I clicked get captcha in other threads. Now I'm posting without waiting, but I almost never had to wait 15 minutes on old 4chan either.
No.151592
>>151580They're probably still adjusting the timers.
It was 2 minutes per post when it first went up, but I think it's back to 60 seconds now.
No.151599
>>1515922 minute post timer is gone for me now.
No.151610
>>151276lmao, they aren't even offering money for vuln reports, hilarious shit, they deserve to get hacked every chance they get.
No.151613
>>151610How else is Hiro supposed to pay for his frog legs?
No.151618
>>151276FOR A WHOPPING 20 DOLLARY DOOS OF VALUE!
No.151619
>>151613He could just put out.
No.151640
>>151635I bet nobody in the IRC had the guts to call them fags who don't have any passion upon hearing that.
No.151649
>>151647Newfags, spammers, and botters probably haven't noticed yet
No.151650
>>151647I actually wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of them did migrate back to twitter and reddit.
No.151658
>>151653Surprises no longer happen.
Everything is exactly as planned.
It's just that sensible people aren't invited into the room where the plans are made.
No.151659
>>151658I'd like the maggots who went to reddit to stay in reddit and Twitter.
No.151664
>>151660>cut activity cut by 50% or moreDo you really think it'd be that high a percentage? I think most people will still use it since it fills a niche very few other places online do, even if the execution of filling said niche is dogshit. The amount of people that care enough to use altchans now that it's back probably number less than 0.5% of 4chan's overall userbase.
No.151666
>>151660That list doesn't show many bans. I've been banned dozens of times for various rules and it has never showed up there. It specifically says it's not a comprehensive list as well.
No.151667
>>151660>/trash/>lolikonNever change fagmods.
No.151670
>>151668Some of the users may not have even registered that they were down given how little activity those boards can get.
No.151672
>>151668>like /po/ or /3/ or /diy/Ah, yeah, I agree then. Plenty of other places that are more active to discuss those. I doubt most of the active posters on those boards cared a great deal about the perceived benefits imageboards bring.
No.151677
>>151660I'm glad the site is back, but I will never stop hating the 4chan mods.
No.151678
The sticky is still locked. Nobody seems to care.
No.151681
>>151678No one who matter does.
The ones who care don't have enough established credentials to say "this site is dying, where should we move?", which is all the evidence we needed that evidence wasn't needed to prove that the truth needn't proving.
All I'm saying is, "It's over".
No.151686
>>151668I hope at least the people on /diy/mcg/ come back, forums have their own toxicity that comes with accounts and the AVR forum especially can be quite rude. None of the alt boards had an alternative to it either.
No.151691
>>151311One of the mods thinks it's a "template thread" and deletes them on site, he probably thought this was the only possible way to stop lots of them.
Meanwhile generals rules the board with impunity.
No.151693
>>151691Is a general not a template thread?
No.151704
>>151419They should just open source it. moot's ancient argument about not wanting to expose his spaghetti code to the world is moot, we've all seen 4chan hang dong.
No.151715
>>151704They can't expose all their schizo heuristics and captcha bullshit.
No.151726
>>151668the regular users probably go through days of zero posts anyways. It's the midsized boards, even /jp/ which could see actual competition.
No.151727
>>151724>"As many have suspected, until that time 4chan had been running on a set of servers purchased second-hand by moot a few weeks before his final Q&A, as prior to then we simply were not in a financial position to consider such a large purchase."As far as excuses go, it's as close to believable as we're likely to get outside of them coming out and confirming they're also lazy bastards. Still funny to think Hiro had not lifted a finger since taking over and was using what moot left behind for him.
No.151729
>>151727Nah this was the statement for me.
>The free time that 4chan’s development team had available to dedicate to 4chan was insufficient to update our software and infrastructure fast enough, and our luck ran out.>free timeNot all of you were paid but we know the guy that was important enough to oversee it was. If you couldn't even communicate to us you needed to update shit and downtime was inevitable, you deserved this. Also
>Money is always tight for us, and few companies were willing to sell us servers, so actually buying the hardware wasn’t a trivial problem.What the actual fuck? You can go on Ebay and get them second hand like moot did. I swear, the incompetence.
No.151732
>>151724>PDF exploitDid they get this from the attacker, or did they actually confirm this?
No.151734
>>151732They confirmed it but the attacker revealed it and the idea wasn't even new, some details about this was first posted on a /g/ thread over 8 years ago looking at the first leak of code.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/58851338/#58856080The only reason 4chan didn't go down sooner at the time was because the guy was just being tech focused and fooling around and wasn't actually malicious. It was just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.
No.151749
>>1517154chan's long standing policy of opacity attracts and creates schizo posters.
No.151777
>>151772The donation begging is extra funny when they put zero effort into protecting pass users data.
Also the implication that you it costs them anything but a bit of time to update the distro.
No.151786
>>151772Definitely, the wording "pressured by activists" gives it up, it is someone in the gamergate-successor circles.
No.151788
>>151772They're just trying to earn cheap points by lumping themselves in with DLsite and the like. Too bad all the people who would jump at the mention of (((activists))) already hates the mod team for siding with them and their agenda constantly over the years.
No.151789
>>151724They should halve the salary of the entire moderation team involved in this incident.
No.151792
>>151789How do you halve zero dollars? Eat half of their hot pockets?
No.151809
>>151772Shouldn't assume, the team loves to add 40 mods and then tell you nothing about them or their policies and then laugh at users for blaming one or two known quantities.
No.151811
If you want to save money for developer man hours, fire Rapeape.
No.151824
>>151724>its a tumblr blogThis is just surreal in so many ways
No.151825
>>151734>the PHP code directly calls C binaries for PDF and JPG metadata parsing>JPG metadata parsing>Now I'm making a small tool to easily embed the exploit in pictures w/ configurable memory/CPU useHmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Let's see them disable jpg uploads.
No.151833
>>150960>It's a bizarre image because it copied stuff from other boards to fill it out to make it not 100% wojaks.I'll let you in on a secret: Not every poster on late /qa/ was a shartfag. /qa/ was basically /b/ 4.0 in it's final years. Half the non-jak refs there were ritual/daily /qa/ threads.
jakkids resurrected /qa/ but did not own it. But pretend they did and managed to get it frozen and killed like Kain drowned Raziel and then his entire clan
No.151834
>>151013trash has been growing non stop since the turn of the decade. actually the only off-topic board that did not shrivel up and practically die
For some reason a bunch of large discords got really attached to it. Likely because they cant discuss they shit anywhere else.
No.151847
>>151834chatroom board for the chatroom age
No.151848
>>151847>chatroom board for the chatroom ageSir? You AIM messenger has been pinging, you haven't read your last messages. it says september 2001 and something about towers
No.151896
>>151847*buzzes/pokes you*
No.151999
>>151724money being so tight explains why they allow schizos that haunt generals for years and turn the general into the schizo show (probably to raise engagement)
No.152000
>>1519994chan doesn't get paid by the post and people don't link schizos having mental episodes to their friends either. They allow that because banning someone from a website without robust account verification is impossible.
No.152003
>>152000It actually isn't. All it takes is dedication and good enough pattern recognition. A NEET with enough pattern recognition skills can detect schizos and ban evaders miles away.
No.152004
>>151999It's ironic that you complain about it while using a word that was forced by the same types of people you're complaining about. Far too many 'memes' that are nothing more than mass spammed bot posts from 2015-2020 era.
No.152005
>>152000doesn't higher engagement lead to higher possible advertiser yield
No.152006
>>152004>It's ironic that you complain about it while using a word that was forced by the same types of people you're complaining about.Its the word shit combined with twitter its not exactly original. I'm personally a fan of slop as a suffix as well
No.152008
>>152006wait I confused with a different thread when I saw my notif oops. Yeah I'm also a fan of the word schizo its fun and whimsical
No.152009
>>152003It doesn't really matter if you can spot them and keep banning them, they can still evade it. The schizos outrank you in their dedication. A new phone IP takes less than a minute to get and cookies do nothing and while rangebans are just slightly more of a nuisance to get around, if you start using those liberally (which 4chan used to do a couple years ago) people are going to get mad about it and telling them to buy a pass to get around it isn't going to help.
>>152005They're not going to be paying 4chan out based on how many posts they get, it's going to be based on ad impressions.
No.152010
>>152000I'll give you a hint: They ban the actual effort posters to make it appear the 'schizos' are the actual users. They aren't making money on advertising either. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand what's been going on with 4chan since about 2009. But I suppose many are too young to remember what actual users and boards are like.
>>152006>Its the word shit combined with twitter"schizo" is 100% a forced meme along with many others. In fact, you can probably pin-point the exact date they unleashed it through the bot spam networks if you bother to look in the archives. It's just one of many. Its only purpose is to shut down discussion of actual topics, divide people and discourage people that put in effort for continuing to participate.
There is a good reason why boards like /g/ went from people that actually knew about technology to
>lol tech workers general!>systemd isn't spyware you schizo!>blah blah blah I don't even know HTML but I'm a front-end developer>guys let's all talk about today's ragebait here is a twitter screencapetc.
No.152012
>>152010>I'll give you a hint: They ban the actual effort posters to make it appear the 'schizos' are the actual users.It literally doesn't matter who they ban. Bans might as well not exist on 4chan considering how easy they are to avoid. They're a complete non-entity.
No.152013
>>152012The vast majority of people can't get a dynamic IP anymore and don't know how to avoid cookies. The 900 second timer makes it annoying to by-pass them anyway. tor nodes are range banned. Common VPNs are range banned. Real users are fingerprinted via their browser. The website has malicious javascript running in your browser at all times. Mods and admins follow around certain users (the ones that put in effort) and do everything they can to silence them. Even the archives are purged of certain posts. Oh and don't forget the board freezing.
Despite all of that the so-called 'schizos' have free reign for years and years and years. The same topics posted on repeat everyday with no original posts in them. Known bots are allowed to run free. It's obvious what's going on.
But just try and make a post about it and watch a bunch of people like you come out of the woodwork to contribute nothing of value and call them names. You can't mention things like the military run pods with armies of bot farms behind them and endless IP addresses. Even though anyone that pays attention has known about these things since the 2010s (and before).
Or how about posting a thread with proof of such things only to watch every other thread on the board get bumped and filled with new bot posts. Despite it being 3am and the mods being 'asleep' along with most of the 'shitposters'.
It's a honeypot and you're not only participating in it and feeding it. You've actually fallen for the lies it propagates.
No.152015
>>152013This is the ramblings of a complete lunatic who's afraid that the 4chan janitors are gangstalking him
No.152016
>>152010Are you implying the 4chan admins have given up and are now just nihilistically torturing people for some sort of benefit
>>152013>But just try and make a post about it and watch a bunch of people like you come out of the woodwork to contribute nothing of value and call them names. You can't mention things like the military run pods with armies of bot farms behind them and endless IP addresses. Even though anyone that pays attention has known about these things since the 2010s (and before).oh are you saying its some sort of social engineering experiment or propaganda
No.152020
>>152018This must be why there are posters that annoy me on /vg/
No.152021
>>152019
You see that pdf file in the post above yours? Read it. Then read it again. Fun fact: It clearly explains why shit like pepe the frog and wojaks became so popular instead of remixes of popular content. Since they are not allowed to break copyright laws while they're shitting the place up.
No.152022
If you guys seriously want to get political then take it to
>>>/secret/, don't need talk about US Government officials on /all/...
No.152024
>>151623Unsung heroes much like Janitors ?
No.152025
>>151653Most of those were robots just to be clear.
No.152027
>>151668Theyll return. Part of the crew part of the ship.
No.152029
>>152021The document is vague, but I think those are guidelines for public relations of the military. Not a guideline for online covert ops.
No.152034
>>151824Tumblr at its current state is somewhat neat I guess.
No.152037
Schizophrenia isn't a happening
No.152038
>>151834Elsewhere? You got reddit for the seggs tumblr and blue burd for the toxic fandom culture (/co/ and /a/ adjacent wise).
No.152039
>>151772I don't doubt that they've been fucked about by payment processors and coward advertisers but I have no idea why they're using that as a deflection for why they failed to update their server software and code
Paying people to update their software should not be a huge drain on money, it should be normal
Hell even paying security experts/hackers for hire to find vulnerabilities should be normal and something a site of it's size should do every once in a while
I can't help but read it as them gearing up for another begging session for hiro and trying to make it seem like the mods were blameless (when everyone knows that simply isn't the case)
No.152040
>>152004Just because it got shit on it does not mean its not useful shit to describe that shit e.g. enshittification
No.152041
>>152038>You got reddit for the seggs tumblrI use bdsmlr its pretty good
No.152044
>>152010Desu is a force maymay if you think about itm
No.152045
>>152022If you seriously can't handle a link to a pdf file and explanation for where the bot farms are coming from perhaps you should keep your opinion to yourself. It isn't "political" to link to a document that proves the point I was trying to make. How do you expect anyone to talk about "what happened to the board quality" when you can't even mention the Government? Are we supposed to pretend it isn't happening? Would you have preferred if I mentioned any of the hundred of private organizations that employee people for this purpose? Which *surprise* have the Government as their main client?
Again; you've been trained to have this knee jerk reaction. The same people that ruined discussion on the internet trained you not to point out that they're ruining the internet. It's almost like the psychological operation operation was a massive success! Why are you even mentioning the sekrit board in the most active thread on this entire website in the first place?
>>152029Read it again. It clearly explains what the program is about. It's vague on purpose. Since the day-to-day operations of what's happening are classified. It is just one of many operations happening all over the world. I am not kidding when I tell you there are buildings staffed 24/7 with people that have no other job to monitor discussion and send in bots to shit the discussion up. Even on websites that aren't honeypots they run directly (which 4chan is).
The document I linked even explains why every popular youtuber has a "PR guy" and why they all parrot the same content and release it at the same time. I am trying to prove to you just how much things are controlled and why the internet suddenly changed in the mid-2000s. Please note the date of that document. Read it three times if you need to before it sinks in.
This used to be well known information. We used to talk about it all of the time. We used to name multiple groups that were known to be doing it (and fight back against it). But at some point around the early-mid 2010s they shut down discussion about it. Which again was my point: You can't even have a damn discussion about it without a bunch of people calling you a loon now and the moderator having a knee jerk reaction. Like I'm suddenly going to start going off on tangents like the bots posting on 4/pol/ and making jokes about muh Hitler and Da J00s. Which again is the point of all of this: Instead of reading the contents of my posts and having a friendly discussion people are trained now to tune out and blame all the problems on the few people that actually want to get to the heart of the issue. Instead of having a frank discussion about actual problems you want 500+ more posts about "the jannys!" and "the schizos!" and the same BS we've all read 100 times since yesterday. At some point it became impossible to have open and friendly dialog. Just because we might not agree doesn't mean I'm trying to convert you to some cause or 'shit the place up'.
The knee jerking moderators that are young and don't remember the before times are by far the worse effect of all of this. They think they're doing the place a service by shutting down so-called 'political discussion'. But then they'll turn right around and rant about their own 'politics'. Then when challenged they start issuing bans for 'politics'.
Which is exactly the same thing the 4chan mods have been doing to certain people for years. Tons of threads on a board like /g/ or /a/ where entire groups of people are slandered. But if one person from those groups throws a shot back or even makes a joke they're suddenly 'racists' or 'off-topic' or any of the other catch-all rules that are only ever used to used down discussion. There is a clear agenda and it's mainly being used to DIVIDE PEOPLE.
Seriously, if you can't see that 75%+ of 'discussion' happening on large websites like 4chan and social media are bot farms I don't know what anyone can do to convince you of the truth. They claim they make money on advertising and driving engagement. But they're FAKING the engagement. They don't want real people posting at all these days. They just want you endlessly scrolling and maybe clicking the like button.
If you don't believe me here is a simple test for you. Take that pdf file and post it on the 'political' board or /g/ where it's certainly 100% on-topic. See how long it takes for you to get a 3-day vacation. It won't take long. There are many many bits of information like the pdf file (and the name of the program listed in it) that are not 'on-topic' anywhere on the entire internet. Furthermore, no matter where you post them someone is always instantly alerted that they've been posted and the flood of bots soon follow. Since they've got a google alerts type system running that greps through the entire web looking for keywords, files, and people's names.
Of course. If one were to explain this and lay it out in a way that is easy to understand he's always banned, shouted over, told to take it elsewhere or flooded out. Along with being called all sorts of mean names. Even though it's all easy to prove. A few have even gotten bullets to the head for attempting to expose it just in the last few years.
No.152047
>>152039>I can't help but read it as them gearing up for another begging session for hiroThey better reserve the begging for venture capitalists because 4chan users have neither the will or the capability to fund the site at this point. Hiro needs to somehow convince Goodsmile to pump in another couple million into his pet project and frankly I don't know how he did it the first time.
No.152049
Can we get a check to see if this post was written by an AI
No.152050
>>152045I was more talking about the shitposting with names of politicians. Also I’m pretty fair in my moderation of what is and isn’t politics, consider that I didn’t moderate you just the person who brought up politicians.
No.152053
But also /secret/ is more an open /secret/ as a place where people can talk without disturbing the peace on /all/. It’s an opt-in board rather than in your face.
No.152211
>>152010> They ban the actual effort postersThey do, just like they banned all the culture posters. But what you're seeing happening is a selection effect where
>>152009 says
>The schizos outrank you in their dedicationSo the culture posters eventually throw in the towel after the mods abuses. The funposters eventually throw in the towel. The effort posters throw in the towel. All who's left, who's been selected for by team4chan themselves, are the absolutely maniacally dedicated schizo posters.
The mods have done this to themselves. It's like wiping out a patients bowels of any good bacteria and wondering why they're suddenly infected with salmonella. You wiped out the niche and the schizos flooded in, you created the cultureless wasteland ripe for colonization.
The whole problem with this is the mods don't really feel the sting for how bad they've made 4chan. That's what the disposable labor of the janitors is for. They suffer attrition, the mods sit back and make pronouncements and handle ban requests.
No.152215
>>152045>>152010>>152013>>>/maho/3220Love this LARP
When's the SciADV fan game coming out?
No.152220
>>152044I thought Desu came from Rozen Maiden
No.152221
>>152220Desu has been a meme in Japan for over 1000 years.
No.152225
>>152044Memes used to forced by a few dedicated posters, powered only by the sheer sacred power of their neetdom.
Now memes are decided by the what the algo thinks will get ad views.
How far we have fallen.....Very sad
No.152242
>>152221Memes used to forced by a few dedicated Nipponese courtiers, powered only by the sheer sacred power of their cultural refinement.
Now memes are decided by the what the corporations think will get 海外企業 investment. Cue modern linguistic crimes against humanity (e.g wasei eigo)
How far we have fallen.....残念
No.152249
>>152235I'm pretty sure this is a spike from everybody coming back and talking about the downtime, so it could be misrepresenting things. Or it could be people stopped checking every day and it'll grow in the next few days as people check back in.
Either way, the most important thing is that a few altchans retain more users so 4chan doesn't look so much like the only option.
No.152250
>>152225Algos are still rudimentary though.
No.152251
>>152249Give it six months and theyll be obscure again.
No.152252
>>152242the intermix of languages is inevitable
accept your fate or perish
No.152254
>>152249I think it's important to remember that 4chan too was small and slow. If speed is the primary factor, you probably aren't much of an imageboard user. The comment to the youtube video.
No.152255
>>152225>>152242If we combine our posts we get the whole truth.
The best memes were either japanese or strongly japanophilic (see early 4chan), hence it's the dedication japanese neets, armed with their cultural refinement, that made them possible
The chase for 海外企業 investment is predicated upon pleasing the algos, and the dominance of western internet/tech platforms (and their algorithms) in general intensifies the aberration of wasei e*go (
>>146204 )
No.152259
>>152250I would say they are rudimentary in that they are in essence misaligned dumb AI systems to the effect of a paperclip maximizer, and don't really understand what they are doing.
However, they are
very much effective at their reward function...Which of course isn't to give you things you want to see, but to maximize ad views/engagement.
Example: why are you recommended political garbage even though you never clicked on it? Because they have long realized the small percentage that do become very good, maybe the best, engagement metric/ad view cattle. (this is what humans call "pipelines") It's worth trying out showing you that stuff repeatedly even if there's only 0.1% chance you'll click on it, because eventually something might trigger you enough to click. You can generalize this to everything else...
why is the music they give you generic? Because in fact they don't care about tailoring your specific taste actually, despite the "personalization algorithm" moniker, what they care about is ads. So they give you something that is a "safe bet" and you won't click away from, rather than more personalized recommendations. Because all they are doing is hacking the engagement metric.
The two examples I gave are NOT contradictory by the way - they calculate where to take risks (example: political brain damage makes you life long ad cattle), where to not take risks (example: music, most people just wanna put something on. You have to put something they actively shut off, not something they will truly enjoy), in a nightmarish cold sterile walled garden.
No.152260
>>152259Correction:
>You have to put something they won't actively shut off No.152310
>>152259What is to be truly enjoy in the context of media. Who are you to state what is the enjoyment of some?
No.152328
>>152327Right here. It'll always be right here.
No.152330
>>152328Also I'm betting the mods probably are killing it as one of the last vestiges of /qa/ culture on the site.
No.152331
Is a state really worth fighting for if it has to break you as a human being to make you a soldier?
No.152333
>>152327/bant/ is the de facto thread
>>152330actually they use those threads for their activities
No.152371
>>152310You misunderstand, the word 「truly」was meant as an intensifier. 「truly enjoy」here means something that is very tailored to (Your) tastes specifically. I was not implying fake enjoyment, whatever that would mean.
The algos only goal is maximizing ad views, all they care about is you not clicking off - for it, an ok piece of media or a life-changing piece of media are valued roughly the same. Maximizing ad viewing is the only thing that matters, a clear misalignment problem for the user.
No.152373
>>152310Don't use the
>who are you to...line of argument by the way, it's a very annoying thought terminating cliche
No.152384
>>152373Junior, you dare? Who are you to tell your senior what he can and cannot say? He is of the eight stage Heavenly Body Reinforcement and you are but a third stage Telestial Body Initiate. Even if you kowtow ten thousand times it will not be enough to erase the stain of presumptiveness.
No.152417
>>152330>Also I'm betting the mods probably are killing it as one of the last vestiges of /qa/ culture on the site.We have... protection.
No.152430
>>151734its hard to believe it remained unexploited so long. theres literally automated bots out there attempting easy stuff like this and theres plenty of people upset enough to do it too
No.152435
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I never understood why the metaposters or the frogjakschizos or all the other rabble laid claim to /qa] when they never had anything to begin with.
The only ones to develop a distinct identity and culture were the 2D/Random posters made up of various boards on the site like /jp/, [s4s], /a/, /g/, and more.
The rest was useless meta discussion on a board the mods never read, truthfully not even metaphorically. Even 8chan /operate/ was better at getting your ideas read by and that was an abyss of wasted energy.
That or it was /r9k/ or /soc/ blogposts or crap.
Take for example the soyteens.
Whereas /qa] was focused on the board and community they dedicated themselves to attacking a supposed bogeyman that was ruining the board.
Ironically while some may claim they were influenced by /int*/ I think they had much more in common with hotwheels and 8chan and their paranoia and obsession. On the other hand /qa] was willing to regularly wipe the board with spam and managed to maintain cohesion despite everything.
Ultimately I feel that the conflict was the modern 4chan culture attempting to attack the sudden appearance of an existential threat. Ideas and zeigeists at some point take a life of their own and people are turned into unwitting carriers and propagators instead of generators.
If the /qa] was allowed to live in peace as the board at the center crossroads its influence and ethos could spread across the site potentially leading to users on other boards banding together and taking matters into their own hands. Which would lead to a revolution or an exodus 2.0 and things would never be the same.
Or something along the lines of that. It was too much trouble from too many for too small a board for too long.
No.152436
>>152009i bet plenty of people are addicted enough to buy the pass if asked to
No.152438
>>152014but does the site owner care? they get activity and ad impressions either way and if the average user is a retard they wont even notice that good posters are missing
No.152439
>>152436Not sure about it. There's a massive "You will own all the games and pay nothing" crowd there, if that says anything.
No.152444
>>152439i hope so but im not so sure. on /g/ its not uncommon to see those piracy and even ad blocking is stealing threads and buy a pass is a common meme many times even posted with the badge
No.152445
>>152444Most of those sound like contrarians or trolls, but that's how I perceive it rather than whatever the truth is.
I paid 10$ for a Something Awful account a long long time ago just to post and read without restrictions, but at least there was some good content there to justify it despite Lowtax being a PoS. And he was despised on a level maybe bigger than rapeape. 4chan has been lacking quality content for sometime, so if hiro put there one of the old Something awful banners that read "Give us all your money", 99% people would leave.
Just my opinion, anyways.
No.152447
>>152445Forgot to mention, the "10$ to post, 10 more to unban yourself" thing only worked when there were no alternatives to SA. In the moment social media and reddit happened, they began bleeding money. I think something similar would happen if 4chan was suddenly paywalled
No.152448
SomethingAwful has diehard fans that will contribute to keeping the site up especially now that it's run by a guy who goons find a lot more likable than lowtax.
No.152453
>>152447perhaps it would work with an more affordable amount. you know like all those microtransactions that are so trendy nowdays. $0.99 so you can call that annoying asshole a nigger? many might bite.
No.152463
>>152444those are all bots and shills and trolls
or so you would think
the first most do with any computer knowledge is immediately piracy unless they follow digital laws for some reason
limewire showed as much
No.152486
>>152484
>More significant, 4chan has simply been affected by the passage of time, consistently losing users to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022.
I wonder if the imageboard format will simply be something only people of a certain generation will burn a candle for in the future. I've spoken to people only a few years younger than me before about the value of anonymity on the internet, for example, and they look at me as if I'm speaking a foreign language.
No.152487
>>152484
That's really thorough work! Good job!
Disappointing news, but I guess it's to be expected. 4chan's massive numbers mean even a small decrease can mean a proportionately huge gain elsewhere, though, so I still think it's a beneficial thing that will be felt across various sites.
No.152488
>>152486The anonymity is one thing, but just the rather simple layout itself is what I like about it. And everyone is more or less put on the same level, even outside of the anonymity aspect, where each thread is a just a single string of posts. I actually don't mind discord, and that's still better than the bigger social media sites like Facebook for any kind of discussion. At least in the way I use it, which is probably ignoring a lot of its features. Twitter has useful functions as well but there's no way in hell I'd used it for any kind of serious discussion and it's crazy to me that it and Facebook have become the center of discussion in politics/on the news about how people interact on them.
And yeah, seeing how younger people use the internet is bizarre.
No.152489
>>152484
>More significant, 4chan has simply been affected by the passage of time, consistently losing users to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022.
Hmmm it’s almost like if the hostile and incompetent administration was running the site into the ground by attriting the userbase with their malicious actions...
No.152493
Imageboards are reclining.
No.152494
>>152484
Thank you for putting this together, it's very interesting to see hard data visualized like this. We're not yet at the point of death meditation.
No.152500
>>152486>>152487>>152489>>152494Ano... eto... My fellow qaeers, I may have screwed the pooch. I used 4stats as a source and I didn't realize that their day count is off by one. So...
My conclusions were wrong!! orzHere's the ACTUAL data.
Headline number:
post-hack 4chan has decreased by 153K PPD.In terms of raw PPD change, the boards affected most are:
/vg/: -29741 PPD | -25% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 90695
/pol/: -24741 PPD | -30% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 58797
/vt/: -22428 PPD | -32% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 48331
/v/: -16765 PPD | -21% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 63250
/a/: -7332 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 30871
/int/: -6752 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 28884
/mu/: -6664 PPD | -46% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 7914
/tv/: -5309 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 21925
/biz/: -4124 PPD | -58% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 2928
/bant/: -3828 PPD | -45% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 4767
In terms of activity level change, the boards affected most are:
/w/: -82% Pre-hack Activity | -90 PPD | Current PPD: 20
/biz/: -58% Pre-hack Activity | -4124 PPD | Current PPD: 2928
/news/: -48% Pre-hack Activity | -159 PPD | Current PPD: 169
/mu/: -46% Pre-hack Activity | -6664 PPD | Current PPD: 7914
/bant/: -45% Pre-hack Activity | -3828 PPD | Current PPD: 4767
/x/: -44% Pre-hack Activity | -3009 PPD | Current PPD: 3814
/cm/: -43% Pre-hack Activity | -90 PPD | Current PPD: 119
/vmg/: -38% Pre-hack Activity | -262 PPD | Current PPD: 430
/n/: -37% Pre-hack Activity | -33 PPD | Current PPD: 56
/an/: -32% Pre-hack Activity | -182 PPD | Current PPD: 379
The top 25 boards by retention rates are:
/vip/: +430% Post-hack Activity
/po/: +383% Post-hack Activity
/wg/: +175% Post-hack Activity
/xs/: +55% Post-hack Activity
/wsr/: +35% Post-hack Activity
/y/: +27% Post-hack Activity
/u/: +27% Post-hack Activity
/c/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/3/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/cgl/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/out/: +24% Post-hack Activity
/gd/: +20% Post-hack Activity
/s/: +17% Post-hack Activity
/trv/: +16% Post-hack Activity
/m/: +15% Post-hack Activity
/gif/: +8% Post-hack Activity
/aco/: +6% Post-hack Activity
/hr/: +5% Post-hack Activity
/i/: +5% Post-hack Activity
/wsg/: +4% Post-hack Activity
/mlp/: 0% (No change)
/hm/: 0% (No change)
/toy/: 0% (No change)
/g/: -1% Post-hack Activity
/soc/: -4% Post-hack Activity
Takeaways:
The 4chan hack had a SIGNIFICANT affect on the overall state of 4chan. 4chan has been consistently losing users each year since 2022 to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022. Post-hack 4chan has decreased by 153K PPD, down to 561878 PPD, which if long-term trends of user loss continue, would have naturally occurred by approximately 2030.
Spreadsheet for anyone who wants to look at the data themselves:
https://files.catbox.moe/9pajru.ods No.152503
Well the good news is that the site's going to be cheaper to operate now and they can put those extra funds into hiring a real developer
No.152504
>>152503Hiro needs his new ferrari please understand.
No.152514
>>152500nice. much like predicted days of downtime is a disaster for todays social media platforms
No.152515
also wow the paywalled board has highest activity??
No.152519
>>151618>>151276I only just realized this but passes are actually $30 dollarydoos now right? This is just yet another thing that is neglected and out of date.
No.152522
>>152486>>152488I personally feel like as if imageboards, as a format, already died in the early 2010s at the latest. I think younger people nowadays don't really care about the format on its own, but rather about the "culture" of infamous adopters like 4chan, which has to be most people's first experience with an imageboard in the first place. If someone first goes there now, because they're intrigued by 4chan's premise, I assume they must already feel perfectly content with constant shitflinging and drama, meaning there would be no reason to even think about looking for any alternatives. That is unless their favorite board gets nuked either directly or indirectly and they want to regroup elsewhere.
In short: I think the influx of people who are entirely new to imageboards would immediately stop if 4chan were to die and the only people still hanging around on altchans will be former 4channers.
No.152523
>>152503Surely they will make changes to better prepare for the future and it will no be down again in less than a year without any sort of staff response
No.152530
>>152373Who are you to state such madness you feeble anonymous!
No.152531
altchans ??
No.152532
>>152430Do not underestimate the sheer laziness of your fellow 4kanker
No.152533
>>152439>massivethose are loud minorities
No.152535
If I got extra money I will pay for Reddit Premium
If I got extra money I will pay for 4chan pass
if I got extra money I will not pay for Kissu-VIP (no special lounge no special tag)
No.152541
>>152486Anonymity is a myth if your enemy is the state itself.
>>152522Wanna know why the alternative tend to always suck? Its because they act as a piss poor mockery rather than to be unique of its own. It answers why non eng IBs thrive without the 'chanesque' crap or whatever bs you call that.
No.152542
>>152514Yet it will still persist until bankruptcy.
No.152543
>>152538
I assume you're all bad at reading because you don't read so you don't enjoy it because it's too slow for you. I can read tenfolds faster than any video can give me any sort of information. If I want to watch a video I will watch a movie or a show, not some guy talking about something I could read in two seconds.
No.152563
>>152500>/pol/ down 30%>/po/ up 383%They won.
Also losing a quarter of /vg/ probably hurts, those are the posters with the least incentive to go back once they've successfully migrated and they made up a huge chunk of the total.
No.152570
You should probably look at the numbers a month, half a year, or a year from now. You've got like three days worth of data points here. Altchans have a 20 year long habit of dying down.
No.152584
>>152577
I can listen to music just fine without videos telling me what to listen to, I can even do other things at the same time..? I did say if I would watch a video I would rather watch a movie or a show, not some 5x sped up video of a guy masturbating with a severed off fishhead for a five seconds laugh.
No.152585
>>152500I think it's funny that when you look at places like Twitter through Xcancel there are people who still think 4chan is shut down forever. Some people are just incapable of keeping up.
No.152587
>>152585There are still people asking "wasn't silk road shut down?" every single time there's news about darknet drugs. It's been like 15+ years, and it wasn't even the first or the last of its kind.
No.152588
>>152573Seems like it's related to the massive happening at the Iberian Peninsula where the power has gone out nation-wide in both Spain and Portugal.
No.152589
>>152500what day is this based on
No.152591
>>1525892019: April ~28th
2020: April ~28th
2025 (Pre-Hack): April 12, 2025
2025 (Post-Hack): April 26, 2025
No.152594
>>152503I suspect it took the dev half a day to get 4chan back. The other 10 days he was doing nothing out of protect. Hiro's uncaring greed won.
No.152595
>>152588It's been a mess. Power is still unstable, so I can't boot the PC. My final message hours ago pretty much got lost when the power failed before I could hit "submit".
Even the two-way radio has been useless once the repeater ran out of juice.
No.152600
>>152500Thanks for this. Even though I agree with
>>152570 it's still interesting to see the immediate consequences. April 2026 data's going to be depressing from the looks of it.
No.152625
>>152624Hacker known as 4CHAN gets his revenge after all...
No.152626
>>152625Actually it was the hacker known as soy jack
No.152627
>>152624Uboachan is also down (owned by the same person)
No.152628
>>152626Aided by all the energy gained through his all-soy diet.
No.152629
Does vichan have any unknown vulnerabilities we should worry about? Most IBs use vichan
No.152633
>>152629no the sushi admin just had the default admin account with the password "password"
No.152634
>>152633well that's facepalmworthy
No.152635
they put on the footer 2024 vichan-dev while we have 2018. But I take it there's some reliable source that they didn't change the admin pass?
No.152636
>>152635it's the sharty
i don't want to link it but if you go on there you can find it easy
No.152637
>>152636not 100% reliable unless both parties confirm, but I guess it's probably possible
No.152641
>>152635seems like that's the case
sushichan has been around for more than 10 years hasn't it? i'd be shocked if they left the owner account with the default credentials for this long
No.152643
>>152641in the sushi discord
seems like it was a mistake after a database migration
however whoever pulled off this "raid" was an idiot and dumped nothing besides the public discord chatlog
No.152649
>>152541>Wanna know why the alternative tend to always suck? Its because they act as a piss poor mockery rather than to be unique of its own. It answers why non eng IBs thrive without the 'chanesque' crap or whatever bs you call that.Same reason why every /pol/ board is doomed to become yet aNOTher 4/pol/ knockoff.
Or why legacy boards in general tend to repeat the mistakes of the 4chan boards.
No.152652
>>152651it's kinda wild that wapchan has emerged as a relatively strong site when they had no community transplants in the early days and grew very slowly for years
No.152653
>>152620At least I get to catch up with this thread while waiting for public transport.
The sharty at it again? I hope people will finally learn to harden security after this.
No.152657
>>152626Saw someone on /m/ share a screencap collection that points out they literally run a bunch of scripts that "aggressively" fingerprint the shit out of you even if you're lurking
So if they're taking down altchans this is concerning but predictable. They want to corner the imageboard market to do data harvesting
No.152661
>>152657Seesh. Guess from now on I will have to use Librewolf for everything but Kissu. And if it was still possible, I would disable the JavaScript checkbox (impossible to do with 4chan ever since they put cloudflare on the gates)
No.152663
>>152657I think it's mostly just about curbing spam, and how the team4chan is completely obsessed with enforcing their top down vision of the boards but lacks the manpower and tools to do it.
No.152668
>>152667
There won't be any naming/promotion of a site used to post cp on 4chan here.
No.152669
New or untrusted IPs still have to wait 120 seconds before posting on 4chan. And if they have waited and made a post, but want to make another post in a different thread, they have to wait 120 seconds again. Just requesting the captcha in another thread resets the timer.
It's like they want to lose users. Or they're dumb enough that they think this bullshit will generate pass sales.
No.152670
This is literally 1984.
No.152673
whoops, i had no idea
No.152679
>>152600I do wonder that if 4chan dies it takes the appeal of imageboards with it, such that few migrate to alts and were left with a handful of scattered sites.
No.152680
>>152679Yeah. It would be like that. rebuilding it's public reputation is impossible. Unless imageboards are destined for notoriety which they could be.
No.152683
>>152680I mean in more of the sense that the entire chansphere would die as what remained on the alts wouldn't be able to hold on.
No.152684
>>152683Advertising small chans would definetly be harder
No.152685
>>152683I refuse to be fucking herded into those niggercattle sites like X or whatever alt for microblogging bullshit there is, fuck that.
No.152686
>>152685I know we don't, but I wonder if a lot of people will just throw up their hands and go to xitter rather than find an altchan
No.152687
>>152686They do, and that's what most are doing and that fucking sucks.
I don't know what the future for imageboards are, I'm scared for it because this is all I known, I grew up with this shit since I was
13 No.152689
>>152687Same though I've been on my fair share of forums too though I wish I hadn't given how much of an absolute turd I was and the fact that the username associated with that forum account will forever be tied to my identity if I use it again
No.152690
>>152687I have spent my whole adult life on imageboards, they're my home and I have strong feelings for them that people often find cringe.
No.152691
>>152686I think 4chan is serving more as the holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter what time we're in. But also that market is locked to 4chan because of that immense notoriety pull which garners it all the attention it has in the first place. As we saw recently plenty of people are happy to jump ship to alts if it dies but if 4chan is alive then they'll begrudgingly still use it because of the addiction it's built in them.
No.152692
>>152585Oh come on its not even a month after the damn incident.
No.152693
>>152651Sleep deprivation is not good for you.
No.152694
>>152691>holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter whatI certainly hope so
No.152695
>>152657How aggressive exactly?
>>152661You are way too paranoid about this privacy nonsense.
Just use plain FF and blend in with the crowd.
No.152696
>>152669>it will reset the timer if you make another request on a different threadBollocks! That only occurs if its from a different board (i.e. make a captcha request on a red board then on a blue board vice versa).
No.152697
>>152685This post reeks of tryhardism
No.152698
>>152686Or maybe the userbase of terminally online freaks overlap each platform from the start.
No.152699
>>1526914chan is categorically classed as a huge social media platform though. Stop lying its not funny :(
No.152700
>>152697>>152698>>152699Jesus christ just make one post instead of three you dumbass.
No.152702
>>152696Nope, it's per thread now. It's new since the hack.
No.152703
I'm sure pre hack this thread would have been deleted immediately for low quality
https://boards.4chan.org/c/thread/4406515 No.152711
>>152709>>152710Is the joke that cloudflare and every social media site do worse things?
The only suspicious thing is that they have such a way to inject javascript through websockets. They could just run any javascript they want by putting it on their website (like integrity.wasm itself), but that they have such a direrced method makes me think it's to run special javascript payloads for certain known users. Possibly even zeroday exploits. Imagine the top soyjak (who is admin and literally looks like the ugliest drawings on their site) getting offended by a user who posted a loli vampire, and he goes all LE PEDO MENACE MUST DESTROY, and runs a zeroday (which he purchased on the blackmarket for thousands of dollars) specifically on that user's browser to "own" him.
No.152718
>>152709>>152710If this happened 4 years ago, Soot (site's original creator) would've gotten raped to death.
No.152719
>>152709>>152710Kinda funny how sites can just abuse users at a certain level of momentum and they'll just take it like bitches
No.152730
>>152719Kids these days plaster their real name and face online anyway, I doubt they care about their favorite site knowing all about them, if they even know it does that.
No.152742
>>152500>since 2022 any particular reason it happened then
No.152743
>>152742Government covid policies started winding down
No.152744
>>152743was the site dying until covid
No.152748
>>152739I'm going to delete all of your files.
No.152749
/j/ now leads to a 404, the board seems to have been either deleted or moved.
No.152750
>>152749They probably renamed it or did something with the access rights. But the cynical worse case scenario is probably that it has served its purpose and got shut down so now everyone is going to use the internal moderation Discord.
No.152778
>>152749>>152750Yet another imageboard that degraded into a discord channel, just literally now instead of de facto.
No.152802
rottingangels is dead? when the fuck did that happen?
No.152838
>>152808thanks, i didn't really go there but it felt very unique, shame it's gone now. RIP
No.152942
>>152570>You should probably look at the numbers a month, half a year, or a year from now.The PPH trend looks to be fairly stable. It's been nearly a week. I think it's safe to assume that there aren't going to be any spikes from people suddenly finding out 4chan is back. If anything, the lack of gradual increase over the course of a week tells me that the difference Pre- and Post-hack reflects the attachment level users had to 4chan, meaning that the remainder who have yet to return are unlikely to return at all and have likely found alternative outlets for discussion that they might have used 4chan for.
>Altchans have a 20 year long habit of dying down.Nowhere did I mention non-4chan imageboards. We're exclusively talking about 4chan here.
No.152970
>>152942I was actually sorta posting on 4chan again before the hack but it going down and seeing the potential for other imageboards made me quit completely.
No.153054
>>152748It's okay anon i don't post there, i just lurk
>>152808Sucks to see, that site had potential and a forum/imageboard hybrid is something i have not seen anyone else do
No.153435
>>152500Is 4chin kill for good this time? On a serious note, I feel like the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.
No.153594
>>153435>Is 4chin kill for good this time?No.
>the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.There's a reason why a lot of new altchans ban their shit. They are the internet equivalent to cockroaches.
No.153610
I cannot access [s4s]. whenever I go to the catalog: a giant video of kirby opens up. is this some epic new meme?
No.153622
>>153610I only see a stickied thread with an enlarged frog image.
Maybe 4chan really shouldn't have come back.
No.153630
>>153610Yeah it's not just you
No.153642
I see kirby with 4chan X and the frog without
No.153646
wow even [s4s] dislikes the reddit frog
No.153656
God, I hate s4s so fucking much
No.153659
>>153656We need to make a Shit Kissu Says
No.153660
>>153659isn't that just jp?
No.153662
you're saying it right now
No.153666
>>153610Go to
https://boards.4chan.org/s4s/thread/12228561then zoom out and block the element with something like UBO.
No.153669
>>153659We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard culture; it can't come back any more than lolcat macros or rageface can.
No.153670
>>153663You were always the problem, and now the problem grew even larger than you.
No.153673
tumblring down...
tumblring down...
No.153675
>>153670>You were always the problemPlease elaborate.
No.153681
>>153669>We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard cultureI'm not so sure about that frogs and wojacks are still everywhere
No.153782
So far it seems that kissu stabilized into a regular posting cycle. Going off of the recent posts tab as a metric, it seems like the last 60 posts rarely exceeds past the 3 hour mark.
No.153810
4chan has seemingly implemented a shadowban system where certain users are able to "post" and don't show up as banned but none of their messages actually get put on the site
No.153811
>>153810That's not a shadowban and it already exists in the leaked source code. The purpose is to confuse bots.
A real shadowban would show the posts only to the poster's IP which isn't really meaningful for a website not hard gated behind a login.
No.153812
>>153810>>153811Yes, it's old. Under what circumstances does it happen? It used to happen to me all the time when I misentered the captcha, but it suddenly went away and I have no seen it for months.
No.153824
>>153823Don't worry /pol/ schizos are contained in their own board.
No.153825
We have a /pol/ board too and it doesn't even contain the 'zos. we can't throw stones from our glass house ...
No.153826
>>153825What are you talking about?
No.153827
Why is berun like that?
No.153828
Bleh, I dislike allowing any drive-by promotion, especially of Tor boards that will probably become massive CP spam hubs, but he did do what another mod said to do so I can't really blame him.
No.153829
8chan seems to be holding some kind of meme event with a vtumor lol
No.153830
>>153828I'm just trying to attract some touhou posters on my board, sorry if this bothers you. By the way CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worry.
No.153831
>>153830>CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worryI'll try and be as nice as possible since you don't seem that malicious a person but Tor boards don't really work unless you're a free speech absolutist with that goal in mind because you can't ban anyone and anyone you moderate will just hop on another IP to spam 5 seconds later because it's trivially easy to. Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activism.
No.153832
this disaster just disasted me
No.153833
>>153822Doesn't look bad but it's a bit aimless, no? Like what's the theme? Isn't it just 4chan on Tor?
No.153834
>>153831VPN users can do the same thing here, minus the /pol/ part.
>Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activismWho cares? Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.
No.153835
>>153834Not with as much ease, we've mostly killed a good bit of VPN ASNs.
No.153836
>>153834>Who cares?When your site raids real life, real life raids it back. That, and imageboards only ever attract the resentment-driven type of activism whose only aim is sadistic spectacle.
>Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.Politics never stay on their designated shitting board because those boards become breeding grounds for nutjobs who believe it's their mission in life to spread the demons in their head everywhere.
No.153837
who sages
No.153838
>>153837All my homies sage
No.153845
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153848
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153850
>>153845DDoSing the raspberry pi in your parent's basement is still a raid.
Overwhelming your site through sheer numbers and derailing all discussion to be about things you hate is still a raid.
But more realistically, you will take the site offline in a few months because you got bored of nothing ever happening.
>>153848Dumb torposter.
No.153853
>>153852
Yes! YES!
No.153860
>>153830It's a nice sentiment, but I don't use Tor for the reason
>>153831 stated. For my purposes of being a 2hufag I got what I need already, there's nothing that an onion site offers me that I want out of it.
No.153891
>>153646Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated from? I remember pepes were seen as the spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thing.
No.153894
>>153891>isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated fromYes, it came from them
>spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thingWell pepe and wojak were fairly contemporary, its just that pepes became popular with normalfags and tourists before wojaks did
No.153900
>>153894I'm aware. I was specifically referring to the soyjaks spammed on /qa/ around 2020. The original wojak alongside the one that was made to mock soyboys circa 2017 have become normalfag memes on their own and thus has faded into obscurity for the most part. What i was saying is that before that pepes were the closest thing.
No.153906
I never understood how the wojak overtook the frog because I stopped looking at 4chan around the time they transitioned
No.153908
>>153824>/pol/ schizosYou may have schizos, but I don't see the poster specifically known as /pol/ schizo on your board. If he was there your overboard would be 90% threads about how everyone he doesn't like is a psychopath and we ought to do national defense which means covertly kill them and their kids. Has he tried to post there?
>>153828>>153830Spam is more of a problem on Tor boards than CP in practice. Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?
No.153931
>>153906mental illness and a lot of free time