No.164833
>>164827>lundukeI know it's usually a schizo thing to say but he 100% makes those.
No.164834
>>164827>the archive linkHe can't be serious. How delusional is that absolute retard? There's nothing more psychotic than 4chan moderation standards.
No.164836
>>164834shout out to the mod who falsely banned me for GR1 and told me to get fucked in the IRC channel when i asked him to lift it
No.164839
>>164827/g/ has been bad for a couple of years now. I don't think people even discuss technology at this point. It's mostly just consumerism, culture war garbage, xitter threads, and people fighting over their favorite brands. Any good or interesting threads that are actually discuss technology get buried down. What a garbage site that is. I wouldn't consider it a hobby image board anymore. It's just another social media shithole.
No.164841
>>164839>couple of years At least a decade.
No.164842
>>164839Heh. Reminds me of the attempt some anons in /g/ did at resurrecting usenet. In a few channels the abandoned newsgroup they chose to squat moved from having 1-2 decent technology and classic web threads to getting filled with spam. Threads that were just a link to a youtube video or a shitter posts, typical useless soam like "N*gg*s tongue my anus" and "Your al fagets", Catbox.moe links without any description, and a "How long until L*t* comes here and starts spamming it with CP?"
And this is why we can't have nice things. Let's hope they stay contained there and don't spread to the Debian newsgroups (which are still very active).
No.164852
>>164842It's a shame that the only /g/ related altchan that really took off was Lainchan and even that's dead.
No.164853
>>164852I lurked Lainchan briefly and didn't vibe with it. I'm not smart enough to contribute to tech conversations, so I should just browse videocardz.com for hardware news or something.
No.164854
>>164852Lainchan is not super dead. I believe it has more activity than 7chan.
No.164855
>>164852Lainchan is nice for tech, I found some useful stuff but you kinda have to dig.
>>164854be the change you want to see
No.164856
>should've pulled a /fur/
Moot should've never deleted /new/ in the first place. A lot of what's wrong with /pol/ has its roots in 4chon.
No.164857
>>164400They've been working on wiping them fortunately. Also what the fuck is up with the Touhou threads disguised as CP spam threads? It's always one of those.
No.164858
>>164857Because mods deleted the touhou threads on /v/, they turned the threads into the circlejerk retarded shit they are nowadays. They could only exist through basically template /v/ threads but with a 2hu related image. Eventually someone got extremely mad that some template thread wasn't exactly the typical /v/ shit thread so they spammed all of their threads with CSAM. The result is that the mods just nuke any thread with a Touhou pic as OP.
At least that's what I gathered after wondering why the fuck these bunch of subhuman trash are now in 4/jp/
No.164883
I dread what 4chan will become in 5 years. Every thread will just be archive recycled garbage filled with AI bot posts just like reddit. If hiro doesn't do something drastic the site is done for.
No.164886
>>164883Bold of you to assume hiro cares
No.164900
>>164883Do you really think we haven't already arrived to that point? We're going on years now of people letting GPT bots run loose just to prove how easily they can sabotage with minimal evasion. Five years beyond whatever we're seeing now feels generous.
No.164908
I think the 2 minutes post timer is only to give jannies some breathing space when someone serial ban evades.
I for one am too lazy to use multiple proxies to shorten the waiting time between serial bans, so it's working.
No.164909
>>164888>funDiscussions mostly of defecating in diapers, intercourse with men of African descent, and thread celeb gossip isn't my idea of fun.
No.164919
>>164888fun would involve talking about touhou project and posting images we like about it, not the terrible schizophrenic posting that /v/tards have forced onto the board.
No.164944
Warning: drunk posting. This is probably retarded bullshit.
Some things just can't be saved. Could change admins, could change owners, maybe wipe the slate and start from scratch with new safer brand new code, and model it after Kissu or Wapchan...And it probably not be enough. It's more about what kind of users you want to have. Enforce the rules, make it clear that they exist, and we will have a case of psychological reactance that would make /b/ day look like a kindergaten brawl. If lucky, after a time of fighting and protesting they will opt to leave and move to another community. If unlucky, there will be a legion of assholes hellbent on destroying the site and "winning", rather than move with their life.
Sigh, sounds like ggamergate, then sharty again. Who knows if good code, good security and a good staff would be enough. There's still the mentioned problem of legal but shit quality content generated by bots. If there's nothing of value, few will want to come.
Other stuff: KW may have been gotten severely fucked by that guy. The one that floods everything with coconut pizza. That one.
No.164945
>>164852Huh. Checked the newsgroup again. Less spam, big threads focused on actual technlogy are starting to form, and some talk about "Lain-ifying" things a big and how they miss the place.
No.164948
>>164454I just mentioned grimes as a way to attack the mainstream because she gets mentioned a lot.
No.164949
>>164944At this point the decline has been going on for far longer than any sort of "golden age". Your advice may have worked before 2016, but once the site became known more for politics than general edginess, already a fall from it being know for anime, that sealed it's fate. It really should have stayed dead: now it's simply a zombie rotting away.
No.164950
>>164945They'll start working into bringing Xanadu to fruition
No.164955
Monetization isn
>>164949Yeah, thats why the opening line was "It can't be saved". An hyphotetical of what should be done, but the truth is that the best option is shutting down the servers and cover it with a sarcophagus. It's never going to work and all it's doing by existing is not letting the users move to the alternatives.
No.164957
>>164955Reminder that the other reactors of Chernobyl were kept online and produced energy for years.
It's kinda symbolic of 4chan.
No.164960
>>164959RapedApe will think he did a great job here because of muh free speech (== /pol/ cancer is allowed anywhere).
No.164961
>>164959/his/ has always been bad.
No.164962
>>164959That was my impression of it at least 3 years ago.
It was still a good board at times.
No.164963
>>164959I suspect /SCI/ must look pretty similar by now, complete with a frog holding a pair of craniometry calipers.
No.164964
>>163427>this doesn't even try to be an anime themed chanAnother criticism of kissu I have seen is that it is
too anime-themed and /a/-like.
No.164965
>>164959God I'm tired of -jaks in all their forms.
No.164966
>>164965Quite bizarre how normalf*gs think these drawings are so funny. They're pretty much like ragecomics at this point.
No.164967
>>164966They're probably the newest generation of ragecomics
From frogposting to wojaks to rare vances wonder what their next form will take
No.164968
>>164967I read this week about a proposal to stop using memes from the last years, go back to 2010 and start the meme evolution from there.
If that came from social media, It would be like going from cats to lolcats again.
No.164971
>>164959Man, what's been allowed to happen to /his/ and /sci/ in particular is a travesty. Exemplars of when moderation crosses over from gross negligence to genuine malice.
>>164961There's always been a lot of driveby trolling and nationalist shitflinging, yes, but it was at least usable before mods decided that literally spamming bait threads was A-OK for some godforsaken reason.
No.164975
>>164974still up (though on page 10) btw in case it wasn't clear
No.164977
>>164971Basically a religion board at this point, way too many discussions break the first rule
>>164974Lots of racebaiting over in it and IQ discussions. Just sad
/diy/ is still good though and /an/ too along with /trv/ /wsr/ /out/ /adv/(sometimes) and /o/(maybe, i don't check it much) are still alright i think
No.164981
>>164974The fuck. I have seen traditionally coded bots on Rizon that made more sense.
What I love about SomethingAwful? Posting AI outside of the containment threads or threadshitting /pol/ style is a guaranteed probation, then a ban after getting too many probes.
Pity the place is slowly dying (more due to natural mummification than cancer) and they don't have the balls to delete the /pol/-lite containment board either.
No.164983
>>164981I never used SomethingAwful because I think paying to use a forum is silly, but even if the site is better off post Lowtax, there's just too much legacy drama for it to truly recover. It'll probably continue for quite a while though, simply because of the strength of the name (not unlike 4chan in that regard)
No.164984
Rapeape killed 4chan
No.164987
>>164983The original reason for the entry fee was to keep the repeat offenders out and add actual consequences for bad actions. I guess 15-20 years ago it was more value for your money and there were a lot less free alternatives that could offer the same amount of content (and better moderation when Lowtax ended going full retard).
I haven't posted in a long time, but at least it feels comfortable to visit from time to time, knowing that I won't be seeing CSAM, frogs, or interracial scat porn, and spend some time chilling while reading a few threads.
And yes, the goons rejoiced the day Lowtax was removed, and rejoiced again when he pulled a Hitler.
No.164988
>>164977I think your mental model of /sci/ is several years out of date. IQ threads have been more or less dead for years, and the racebaiting is only a little more frequent than it was pre-covid.
The real problem has been that there's been 1 or 2 people persistently posting some fucked up form of demoralization in most threads every day for fucking years at this point. They stick out like a sore thumb (and their samefagging is somehow even more obvious, see
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15826506 for example), but they're obnoxious and they never ever got banned (even though most of their posts show open disdain for the board topic hmmm I wonder if this can tell us something about the state of the board's moderation), so the people who had been posting in good faith slowly left.
Picrel, notice how it's under half of pre-covid numbers nowadays.
No.164992
>>164987>And yes, the goons rejoiced the day Lowtax was removed, and rejoiced again when he pulled a Hitler.I hope we will have this with RapedApe, one day...
No.165002
>>164968Naaah we need 1000 more Indian and Chinese soyjaks for... reasons.
No.165003
>>165002Soyjacks are the equivalent of a mass extinction event and having to repopulate the species by fucking your sister. One normie would look at the soys and the classic meme faces and say "They look the same", but fuck. Almost each one of the classics was based on an original drawing or person. The wojacks and malformed pepes are closer to those NFT apes. Drawing over the same template, never ever creating something from scratch.
It's fucking shit.
No.165004
>>165003>having to repopulate the species by fucking your sister.wtf I love soyjaks now
No.165006
>>165004I was referring to the limited gene pool and malformations that keep adding after generations of inbreeding, but uh. If it makes you happy.
Last post. This is getting too offtopic and unrelated to Happenings. There's enough material for a thread about history and evolution of imageboard/forums/internet culture beyond /qa/ if there was enough interest, though
No.165007
>>165003My favourite one was yaoming, I think it was based on a chinese football player.
No.165009
>>165007Yao ming played for the Houston Rockets
No.165011
>>164952Never got into it, but it was fun popping in and seeing the autism unfold.
I hope other OC threads like sitting Reimu are doing ok. Post-hack jaypee is very demotivating, but I can't help but check in for those diamonds in the rough.
No.165013
>>164968>go back to 2010 and start the meme evolution from there.wat
...I was thinking what would happen if people tried to go back to the 2000s and try to pick up from there. Since the current culture is a dead end I was thinking we could try and imagine what might have happened if things turned out differently. This was also to address the "people" who complain about the nostalgia and revivalism but
won't produce an alternative of their own. You can see this with the whole CRT shebabble.
The 2000s would be Year 0 and then you would try and build from there. (I think the 2010s could be included but you need to pick the good bits out of the morass.)
Instead of merely coopting the image of old things like hipsters did you would use old things to make something new.
So you would do things like try and jerryrig Windows 98/00/XP into the modern era, or at least you would try and make them work in a niche somehow.
Or you would take old anime artsyles and iterate upon them instead of rehashing.
Or you would make PC98 games, Genesis games, PSX games, PSP games, or whatever.
Because that's what actually happened back then. Trying to find new ideas.
Or you could rehash or stick with old things if you want because at the end of the day who cares? What matters is the interest is authentic.
In the higher world of ideas they are all equally valid. There's no inherent difference beyond the ones you project. It's only down here where they become subject to the whims of differentials.
It's only because of the immaterial we have all these material things.
I was thinking of doing it myself but a bunch of the old hardware I used back then is gone. It wouldn't feel the same. After all for me the whole idea was revival in a very real sense. Sort of like a middle finger to death, decay, this entire world. Instead of moving forward into slavish dystopia or backward into the ignorant cruelty and abomination of nature, you would move in a perpendicular direction.
I might it do it later or I might not. I don't know.
But this was a personal idea. I've never told anyone about this and I never planned, the only reason I mentioned now is because it was weird to see the current reflected in other people.
All said,
the Nostalgia will never go away.
(related)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1NLh4PCsUUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iOFTbgDiHw No.165025
>>165013It was something a bunch of idiots on youtube or tiktok said, and it appeared on the newspaper kt fill half a page. So just don't think much about it. They are the kind of people that only see things regurgitated to them and don't know shit. It probably was more about how the mainstream has ended sharing AI slop and everything is political now.
No.165032
>>164959>e board being so ripped over is depressing to be a witness to honestly.8 years to late my friend. /his/ tried to be a real board but there was never enough jannies to clean the place up. letting the religion schizos in with "& Humanities" did not help at all
No.165033
>>164974/sci/ was always a ridiculously shitposty place. Bunch of math students extremely hostile to anything too different from their usual dozen threads.
No.165034
It's not about the topics, but about the site culture being "anyone can join" and not showing any sort of standards on what decorum is allowed
No.165044
>>165034Join a forum for that purpose, anonymity by definition requires unbarred discussion. You can never expect otherwise.
No.165045
>>165044>anonymity by definition requires unbarred discussionNTA but that is simply not a universal truth, anonymous platforms have as much the right as any other place to enforce certain quality standards, though I do agree this doesn't mean you can expect it to be respected. For example, I can choose to allow video game console discussion, but ban obviously malicious posts related to console wars, with the reason being that there's a difference in discussing opposing viewpoints and mindlessly venting your anger at a different group or person.
No.165046
>>165044>>165045It's significantly harder without recognizable influential members of the community, but not impossible to set standards for discussions. The things necessary for that are actual consensus of the majority (assuming there's no flood of newcomers who don't know or care how things were being done) and effective moderation culling out obvious bad actors (there's gray area there because there can be good takes that seem bad because they go against the grain, and there's potential for organized bad actors being sneaky, but the latter can be as harmful to spaces that aren't anonymous).
No.165063
Moderators are goon bullshit that never should have been grafted onto my pure nippon channeru in the first place.
The best 4chan ever got is when moot's little cabal of faggots were so thoroughly overwhelmed by the userbase exploding that 4chan de facto operated like a real chan for a few years.
No.165077
>>165063They're still overwhelmed. Just that they cherry-pick extremely specific things they don't like, like schizos.
No.165079
>>165045>rightthat's a "should be". not an "is"
User-facing anonymity comes with mechanical functions that encourage specific behaviors. You can fight against the current all you want, but in the end you are the frog hoping the scorpion will not bite you.
If this is genuinely how you feel, I don't think that deep down you like imageboards as a concept. You want an account system and permanent punishment for misbehaviour, just with anonymity on the surface.
>my pure nippon channeru in the first place. 2ch had 300 jannies at it's peak
2chan was infamous for they nazi mods, but they eventually enacted literal deletion-by-downvoting because the admin couldn't ass himself to expand the moderation team.
No.165080
If you wanted something deleted off of 2ch you were better off going to the police. What they had is in no way comparable to a western forum mod or the janitor mutant hybrid.
Most of what people know about futaba being anal retentive deletionists bubbles from 2channers themselves pointing out the contrast with their own site. And even then it's about crying to the admin (if it's really and old source at this point) which I'm sorry crying to the sysop is nowhere near the same person or job a vBulletin moderator represents.
No.165081
I don't get concern trolling about moderation ruining the purity of imageboard culture or whatnot on Kissu of all places. What do you think this will accomplish, exactly?
No.165082
I verbally report all of the posts I don't like to the CEO of America himself.
No.165086
>>165080>If you wanted something deleted off of 2ch you were better off going to the police.if you wanted something sensitive deleted. And the site complied more often than not, and it varied from board to board. news4vip had FOX being a famous ban happy mod. To argue problem users were not moderated is disingenuous.
>>165081>What do you think this will accomplish, exactly?Generating discussion?
I see people are arguing for both extremes of moderation on imageboards, it is fascinating.
No.165092
>>165086>I see people are arguing for both extremes of moderation on imageboardsI prefer less moderation than more, but there is a line that separates someone calling others retarded nigger faggots while discussing something from someone actively sabotaging discussions with inane garbage. The problem is that the line isn't always clear and there is no easy solution.
No.165093
I dunno, I find it pretty easy to separate the genuine from the well-poisoning.
No.165095
>To argue problem users were not moderated is disingenuous.
To draw a false equivalence between what was for the most part purely removing outright spam and defacing of the site while letting everything else ride short of a police officer's nudging and the outright western spermery of the USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST glad handing committee, to me that's completely disingenuous. They're self evidently different animals.
2channers don't arrive at the cultural perception of Toshiaki being cliquish pearl clutchers because their site is moderated in the vein of a western forum. You arrive at that perception because you think of your own site as anarchic in comparison.
And in the days before (Del)'s automation when 4chan actually branched off of 2chan, what you had was a culture of meta threads absolutely screaming for the intervention of the sysadmin. What you didn't have was a culture of top down moderation in the vein of a western forum. To this day in stark contrast to 4chan, 2chan is populist as fuck.
No.165096
>>165079>User-facing anonymity comes with mechanical functions that encourage specific behaviorsI think so, too, though I think it depends on the platform whether said encouragement is a direct suggestion or just an accidental byproduct that comes with anonymity.
>I don't think that deep down you like imageboards as a conceptI'm going to assume that you believe this because you see 100% unrestricted conversation (perhaps aside from illegal content) as a must-have for imageboards or anonymous platforms in general, which is something I don't agree with and believe is up to webmasters to decide.
>You want an account system and permanent punishment for misbehaviour, just with anonymity on the surfaceMake no mistake, I never mentioned what I personally want imageboards to be, just that I disagree with the notion that unbarred discussion is a staple for the "genre". I can see why someone would think of user-facing anonymity as pointless if a place still enforces certain behavioral rules, but there are other benefits to the system and even just one as small as not having to register to partake in a conversation in my eyes justifies its existence.
No.165097
>>165095> and the outright western spermery of the USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST glad handing committee, to me that's completely disingenuous. They're self evidently different animals.Seems to me you are deliberately mixing up western forums with western imageboards to discredit the latter.
Site mechanics overrule any culture. There's no difference between western and eastern imageboards on the behavioral level. The discrepancy come from administration practices.
2ch was an idiot bin because hiroyuki considers quality control a waste of time (likely, a "sissyphean effort") and pretends it's because freeze peach just to keep appearances. That didn't mean you didn't have MODERATOR CIRCLEJERKS going on, because he also considered keeping his jannies in check a waste of time. Case in point: FOX on vip. Fun fact: 4chan actually punishes mods who do this, specially since moot and his clique left.
2chan's admin was a lazy cunt that eventually just let what he believed was populist bandwagons dominate --> but what he actually did was let off-site chatroom cabals destroy the spirit of anonymous discussion by running little raids 24/7. Which happens on 4chan too, and the mods fight them off all the time (except /trash/, /bant/ and /s4s/ the designated cabal boards)
As for 4chan, 80% of all USER WAS ABANNED FROM THIS POST on 4chan in the last 15 years descend directly from populist showoff, mostly for the /a/ centric mods' obsession with site tradition that /a/ defends to their dying breath. It's not "top-down", it's "bottom-up". You didn't have a genuine "top down moderation" since snacks was fired for attentionwhoring his radio show. A year after that asan and moot started ranting about invisible moderation and blending with the userbase. A minority of today's red text comes from a piece of protocol few know unless they spoke with a mod: public bans for impersonation.
Honestly, no big IB admin gave a shit about how imageboards work. Asan was the only person to understand IBs on a technical level, he cared much more than hiro and karinrin, but he was too much of a weirdo to put his ideas to coherent writing.
No.165098
inb4 swaglord / nana / cygnus
"Designated cabal board" applies to mods too.
No.165099
>>165097>destroy the spirit of anonymous discussion by running little raids 24/7And this is why 2chan fell out of relevance by like, 2009.
No.165100
So where can I find the actual imageboard happenings thread?
No.165103
>>165100These threads kind of have a history of imageboard meta talk that isn't directly related to a specific happening. If a happening happens then discussion can go back to that. It doesn't seem like it's eclipsing anything at the moment.
No.165118
>>165097Man, the death of s4s really hurts me. It was a stupid little board but it had it's moments.
No.165135
>>165103all I want is some imageboard news but it's just people losing their shit over some kuso boards on 4chan, and discussing a bunch of other unrelated meta shit with barely any mentions of any other chans besides kissu's little friend group which also gets overshadowed by the 4chan discussion. Idk used to be I was able to find a bunch of other cool boards through this thread a while ago but I barely read any of it now.
No.165136
>>165135Not our fault the IB scene keeps shrinking. Even the bald men sites are.
Appreciate what you have right now because I'd be surprised if any of this is still standing past 2030.
No.165137
>>165135Yeah, I hate the 4chan discussion too. But the truth is most sites don't have that much drama going on... You can go to some meta threads of the webring sites, they don't tend to talk about 4chan.
No.165146
One could say a lull in the happenings thread is a good sign for peace on imageboards
No.165149
>>165135but i like kissu's little friend group!
No.165151
>>165146You could even describe it as the calm before the storm
No.165152
>>1651364chan needs to go down again, simple as
No.165153
>>165152Permanently.
Which leads to an interesting question. How would all of you feel if/when 4chan finally kicks the bucket? I'd probably shed a tear for all the good memories. But otherwise good riddance.
No.165154
>>165153Why do shartyfags want to see 4chan to die so bad?
No.165155
>>165153I never used 4chan, so I don't care. I'll be happy because that place sucks, but sad because the containment chamber would be down and the userbase spread around other sites contaminating them.
No.165157
>>165153Basically the same as
>>165155. I wouldn't mind it disappearing for how crap it is, but I can't help but feel worried about the idea of such a large force on the internet disappearing (even if it never does anything) and having more bad apples spread to places like Kissu.
No.165158
>>165153I will miss the regulars in the /v/playan thread, and I will feel sorry for the imageboard users that are stuck with 4tard immigrants incapable of assimilating into the host culture.
No.165159
>>165153I would be indifferent. 4chan userbase would migrate off of a single imageboard with one japanese owner to countless imageboards with one russian owner.
No.165161
>>1651534chan is like a clinically braindead relative on life support. It feels bad things got this way, but at this point you had already lost everything that mattered about them (other than distant good memories) and death means you can move on for good.
>>165154The only concrete thing I can think of is spite towards RapedApe's gang for shutting down their old home. I know they despise 4chan oldfags and otaku culture in general, but I don't know enough of their lore to know why exactly.
No.165162
>>165153I have a feeling that the number of anons leaving to other imageboards would be a minority compared to those who would just go to reddit or twitter
No.165164
>>165153Sad, and annoyed because I'll have no good news aggregator for my hobbies, since *every* other mainstream platform sucks 50 dicks.
But I'm also old enough to understand that as soon as 4chan dies, a new central hub of imageboards will replace it. May be 8ch moe because it sure as hell wont be the shartfags, they don't do hobby boards.
No.165165
>>165162Isn't this exactly what happened during the outage?
No.165166
>>165164it will probably be 8moe just because of the name & lack of oversight.
No.165167
>>165166Nearly everyone went there because they remembered 8chan from GG, iirc
No.165168
>>165167Hell, a lot of anons even went to 7chan because of the old 2007 outages
No.165169
>>165166cakechan is a honeypot and is only populated by derranged schizos and mexicans (for some reason)... Most users went to sleepychan or smuglo, there was a lot of drama with mark, the cakechan admin
No.165170
>>165169all the infinity successors suck. just happens that mark has the best infrastructure.
No.165171
>>165153Would make for an interesting time since thousands of users would flock to these smaller imageboards.
4chan itself dying would be a bad thing. For a shit as some of its boards are it does have a lot of good on it.
No.165172
>>165169hispachan went down and that's why there's so many of them there. they even have CSS to make it look like that IB.
i'll give you that it's definitely populated by schizos that got banned from 4chan
No.165173
I would also argue that if 4chan had an abrupt death, even if a site ended up with a larger share of the refugees, there would never be a monolithic imageboard containing posters of all kinds in one site like 4chan.
Most of /v/ and a good chunk of the more popular boards like /a/, and /vt/ would go to 8moe. /pol/ would be split into going to 8moe and sharty.
Most of /jp/ and also a good chunk of /a/ would go to Kissu, sleepychan, Wapchan, 39chan and Tohno.
The retro side of /a/ and /vr/ would go to Wapchan.
/g/ would go to Lainchan
Sports-related boards and /fit/ would likely go back to forums like the bodybuilding forum.
And of course, a fuckton would go back to reddit and twitter. Hell, likely also even tumblr.
Honestly, I argue that it'd be a good thing, it makes the internet less centralized and more compartmentalized like it used to be 10 years ago. True hobbyists would know where to go to genuinely discuss the topics they're passionate about.
No.165175
>>165173We kinda had that happen in April. The only exception I can think of is /g/ and perhaps /vr/. No idea where they went. Lainchan felt pretty dead.
No.165176
>>165173Additionally, western anonymous imageboard culture in general would change. Most other imageboards aside from 4chan work with actual website coding that's not sustained from 15 year old m00t's hopes and dreams. Threads archive later than in 4chan, some imageboards let you post more than one picture which makes imagedump threads like the /a/ manga readalongs last longer, most let you post videos with sounds and the file size limit is higher than 4MB. I'd say posters in general would be far more relaxed since they would no longer have to deal with severely outdated website spaghetti code.
>>165175Yeah, but everyone knew it'd eventually be back. I'm talking 4chan being nuked permanently without recovery either by closing or the administration doing something that just causes everyone to flee. As for /g/ and /vr/, I definitely saw a good bunch of them in Wapchan and a small uptick in Lainchan. I wonder where /lit/ ended up.
No.165177
It's so demoralizing when they demonstrate their arbitrary moderation HARD.
I'm sick of this.
No.165178
>>165176The most important thing: no stupid captcha or 4chan gold pass to post. Seriously... what sane man use a (((imageboard))) where you need to wait 15 minutes to post??
No.165179
>>165178Ever since they got hacked for being retards, they changed it to 2 minutes for the first post in a thread. Then it's 1 minutes. If you want to post in another thread, the timer resets to 2 minutes. All for the first hour of posting with a cookie/IP or so.
No.165180
I don't really want 4chan to die (not the tiny little good parts that remain on my home boards), but I guess even I will be relieved when this nightmare is over.
No.165181
You're jaded.
No.165183
>>165181What does that mean?
No.165184
>>165183you are a jade beauty
No.165185
>>165173/jp/ would probably end up here if not Tohno. Sleepychan doesn't exist anymore, 39chan is strictly a Vocaloid site and they hate crossboarders, and Wapchan has more of a focus on anime.
As for sportsfags, the bodybuilding forum you mentioned no longer exists but Wapchan does have a sports board. Rotting Angels used to have one too but after that methhead started spamming the site rads lost interest in it and shut it down.
No.165186
>>165173>True hobbyists would know where to go to genuinely discuss the topics they're passionate about.true hobbyists wouldn't need a community
No.165191
>>165186>Have interest in a hobby in current year>Visit hobby-related community>The community has a mix of fake fans, hipsters, furries, children, and people who brag about being part of a minority group.>It keeps talking about politics, user-related drama, or just keep posting garbage that they find on "social" media.>It doesn't work together to make a hobby better.>Ask question about something related to the hobby in order to find some useful resources that guide me towards my goal.One of my examples being: "Where can I find mods for the retail version of Half-Life? (or as they like to call Half-Life WON"
>My question gets barely any attention and one guy complains about my question saying why I'm trying to reach this goal of mine.>I burn out, leave the community and/or close my accountYeah, screw that. Or at least stick with a small friend group.
No.165195
>>165191>one guy complains about my question saying why I'm trying to reach this goal of mineI can't even begin to put into words just how much I hate those people and the fact that I still have to read them almost daily when I'm searching up a specific question. Just answer the damn question or ignore it.
No.165197
>>165191Also, since your post is genuine, just in case you haven't seen this yet I feel the need to warn you that greentexting is frowned upon here and usually only used for direct quotes. For everything else there is
¥ yentexting No.165200
>>165186okay, this was edgy to say. you still can get use out of communities but they're always secondary to the activity, discussion is tertiary
I'm not saying anything new. nevermind, kissu
No.165202
>>165183He threw a jade at you.
No.165211
Not a lot going on in terms of Happenings, other than RapedApe's full transition into Twitter attention whore / political "commentator", as his writing skills keep degrading into Elon Musk territory to a point he may have developed early onset dementia or schizophrenia (he hasn't, but I wish it was true).
No.165212
>>165211Did he post more shit?
No.165215
>>165212It's not like he posted shit, but that he tagged FBI accounts on the shitpost. Well, more like the account of that clown that always looks like he attempted a stealth fart and ended with a brown surprise.
Same pattern as previous posts, like he wants to be noticed by the government and dreams to be chuddies with them.
I'm not sure if we should mention what he does outside of 4chan unless it explicitly refers to imageboards or avoid it entirely. We are not KiwiFarms, after all.
No.165216
>>165215Why not? He's basically a public person. Or wants to be one. It's like a Steve Jobs or Elon Musk, downscaled to the size of a moldy apple in the final stage.
No.165217
>>165216If it doesn't have to do with imageboard happenings, then it's not an imageboard happening. RapeApe posting on twitter that he loves shoving logs up his ass is not an imageboard happening, but if he posts something explicitly related to 4chan then it is.
No.165218
>>165215>I'm not sure if we should mention what he does outside of 4chanHow would you even know that?
No.165219
>>165218Outside of 4chan = Twitter. The first rants were at least related to 4chan (CP reporting, gamergate), but he's starting to go off the rails now.
No.165220
>>165217No mentions from now onwards. The only reason I knew about this is that every time he goes full retard, they create a post about it on 4chan as a way of saying "This is the idiot running the site you love". This time the staff acted faster to delete the thread than the last time.
No.165221
>>165197Sorry about that. I'm not that much of a frequent poster but I'll keep that in mind from now on.
No.165222
>>165215>he wants to be chuddies with themOr he already is. Either with a badge or just an informant. They've definitely made a "deal" with him
No.165223
>>165216Of course it matters. When talking about xitter, you also talk about Musk's other projects and what he says politically, right?
No.165225
>>165224Which places can I talk about the owner of the most important imageboard if not in a thread about stuff concerning imageboards?
No.165226
>>165225Probably the one with the hairy fruits, or a discord, IRC or whatever, but not here. Unless what he posts outside of 4chan is relevant to 4chan or imageboards, it would fall under the "do not import external drama" rule.
No.165227
>>165225FYI, hiro is the owner. The people most interested in a 4chan manager's political spiels would probably be on 4chan itself.
A good way to find active discussions for subjects on 4chan is to use the search feature that not many people know about: (WARNING thumbnails may be NSFW)
https://find.4chan.org/?q=rapeape https://find.4chan.org/?q=4chan+twitterI think there are better ways to refine the search, but I can't remember them. It doesn't seem to use the "OR" argument.
No.165229
>>165224>but expecting tolerance towards twitter gossip is too much.it ain0t twitter gossip, RA is crying because the law is not answering his call about the illegal porn spammers
oh yeah the moe mods on /v/ announced they want help dealing with a pizza spam problem too just a couple days ago.
No.165233
>>165229Speaking of that, PSA: careful with the /g/ archive today (the one set in 4chanX). I was doing a search of deleted opening posts, and it was just CP images, not even deleted low quality spamming or "normal" porn. Must be a pretty bad day.
No.165234
>>165233lmao don't open the /v/ archive then.
shit's fucked. never in my almost 20 years in IBs i've seen something like this
No.165238
>>165221That's completely fine, don't worry at all. I was mentioning it so that you won't get turned off if you do ever encounter the "who quote" gag and hopefully stick around!
No.165239
>>165227>FYI, hiro is the owner. No. He's just a name on the paper. The headmod controls the site and its policies.
No.165240
>>165229moe's mods are lucky that their spam mostly seems to be clothed """"""child models"""""" in a single thread that pisses off some schizo
No.165241
>>165240Moe = 8chan.moe?
Sorry, I'm a bit out of the loop and I don't know the current chans.
No.165243
>>165241I assumed that's what he meant. So far they responded by just throwing more jannies at it.
No.165245
>archives are in trouble again
What if you traversed the boorus and imageboard archives and created a blake2b hash table of all images that are not deleted after X amount of time? You could sort the database with quicksort/mergesort and it's just a very efficient binary search lookup after that. You could supplant it with a perceptual hash database too and auto approve images with a very close match to pre-approved perceptual hashes; though this is not as secure as a cryptographic hash.
In real time imageboard administration, you could hash every incoming image and look up if there is a match in the database. If there is, post is automatically approved. If there is no match, image won't not displayed until a janitor or mod approves, or approval could be augmented by a community poll. Posters with a history could approve images and make them visible to everyone. After approval, image hash could appended to the database. Better if there is collaboration between imageboards to expand this database.
Thoughts?
No.165246
>>165245>pre-censorshipWho wants a 1984 imageboard?
No.165247
>>165246the sharteens, actually
No.165248
>>165247I heard they actually do that. They're deranged schizo freaks who raid other imageboards (perhaps even by posting CP) so it makes sense.
No.165249
>>165246Do you have any better ideas to allow every proxy under sun and still have no CSAM anywhere on your imageboard? I thought about a pseudo-account system with zero-knowledge blinded proofs (anonymous authentication basically) for known-good pre-approved posters too but you will levy the same criticism again.
No.165250
So you want to discuss twitter and rapeape complaining and you're also a free speech absolutist that decries people taking action against illegal content as "censorship". I'm very close to purging this thread of your cancer before it metastasizes as I recognize this song and dance.
No.165251
>>165249> I thought about a pseudo-account system with zero-knowledge blinded proofs (anonymous authentication basically) for known-good pre-approved posters too but you will levy the same criticism again.That is a good idea.
>>165250Yeah right, just because I don't want a system where I have to wait for any post to get approved by a mod I'm "defending CP". God damn how much more of a bad faith retard can you be. Are you an admin or mod here who stalks my post? Maybe you can point out where I'm being a free speech absolutist, or where I'm actually against anyone taking action against illegal content? This is libel.
No.165252
Also pretty funny to lash out against me, while other posters are essentially posting instructions where to find CP.
No.165253
Any sort of hashing is useless and trivial to defeat. Honestly I would never host an IB myself. I wanted to before but I think I'd rather host a textboard at this point
No.165254
>>165253There are image hashes that are resistant against various transformations and cropping. You probably get get pretty far, even if they can beat it by trying hard enough.
what 4chan does is laughable anyway. They use the md5 of the image, so it only takes changing a pixel to circumvent the block.
No.165255
>>165254I think there's a perceptual hash check too.
No.165256
>>165255I heard it was some "AI" NSFW detection.
No.165257
>>165253It's a whitelist approach, not a blacklist approach. Opposite of what 4chan does
>>165254 and nobody is breaking a 512-bit cryptographic hash.
No.165258
>>165257Your database will always be outdated, too small, and there isn't even a guarantee that none of the sources you want to scrape for hashes of supposedly safe images are accidentally illegal content. They're probably also going to block you if you mass-scrape them.
You'll practically end up with a system that requires approving most images posts. Maybe even text posts, because they could just spam links to illegal content.
No.165259
>>165253Heuristics work but it's a full time job.
No.165260
>>165258It shouldn't be too outdated as I will be scraping on a daily basis, though of course I have incorporated throttling so my database will not be in real time, but this scraping process has to be done only once as I will be sharing my database with zero strings attached. It's not more taxing than a single user clicking every image only once.
I already have scraped close to half of a booru and a small portion of the archives and nobody raised a stink about it yet so I figure my throttling helps a lot.
If I have to approve a lot of things that's fine. This just speeds up the approval process in case someone is just reposting an image from a source I trust. Filtering links is much simpler than what I am doing with images.
No.165273
Just to add fuel to the fire and to be the bearer of more bad news, even if I don't want to discuss the board's topic at hand here, 4chan's /vt/ out of all boards has started to get AI posts where the content of a post is short and inane shit about X vs Y. The OP image is run through AI to transfigure the OP pictures to do shitposting to circumvent hash and other detection techniques.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/106557670/https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/106590008/I don't quite understand why they are doing this as opposed to algorithmically corrupting the image in certain places instead but there might have been some sort of shift in the background of how images are being detected for shitposting and etc. and that might have started this shift to using AI over other types of image to keep posting images. But in any case, this bodes quite badly for the state of things if this is occurring.
No.165274
>>165273>over other types of imageover other types of image manipulation techniques
Of course, this could be explained by someone extremely lazy who can't be arsed to do basic image editing but I highly doubt that, even open source image editing AI models will try and keep details consistent if you asked it to do cropping and etc.
No.165275
>>165273when you abuse the rules, being ostentatious is a bonus for style points
No.165282
>>165273This shit is why I was so heavily against vtubers being a welcome discussion in 4chan. I don't have any strong opinion about vtubers but I knew that at one point it'd just devolve into console war-like shitholes (my e-celeb is better than your e-celeb) and now it has reached the point of AI-made bait threads.
I'd also argue it's the same with politics, but more organized groups have set up bots to be more subtle while also agitating users.
I'm now starting to wonder if the botnet surrounding 4chan is far more big than people think.
No.165292
>>165282to be fair, in this specific case it's the result of a large part of the board's userbase (the parts less predisposed to the console war stuff specifically) migrating to greener pastures after the hack
No.165293
>>165273Also, this reminds me of one of the first times a massive bot malfunction happened in 4chan back in 2021
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/4647069 No.165296
>>165293Screenshot please? I can't access this...
No.165297
Let me guess
¥ adversarial ai training with a reward function geared towards maximum user engagement, topic derailment, narrative building, and user demoralization
¥ simply shutting the website down would disperse the users into smaller imageboards of which there is plenty
¥ so the appropriate intervention is to flood the conversation with meaningless ai diarrhea,
make users gradually lose interest and leave for big tech platforms
Makes sense why only some "shitposters" are operating with complete impunity from any moderation.
No.165300
>>165293doesn't look like a bot but like a thread bombing script picking posts from an archive.
No.165301
>>165297Or it's someone trying to game the IP trust system.
No.165302
>>165300So like >>162212 (
https://archive.ph/cd3lv ) but poorly aimed?
No.165323
>>165319i got bans for this on
/trash/ several times. it's completely random.
No.165326
>>165319From what I kept reading in /jp/, the /vt/ mods are absolute dogshit and are even paid by big vtubing companies to promote threads that shit on other vtuber companies so they might even go as far as allowing AI-made shitpost threads in the catalog.
Apparently /vt/'s PPM never recovered to pre-hack levels. I'm not surprised if what I read is true, and from what I see, it feels like one big anonymous subreddit.
No.165327
>>165326>it feels like one big anonymous subreddit.Isn't all of the site like that?
No.165328
Anyone who can compare 4chan to another social media site obviously uses said social media site...
No.165331
>>165326>From what I kept reading in /jp/, the /vt/ mods are absolute dogshitThat doesn't differentiate them from mods on the other boards.
Mods are site wide anyway.
No.165334
>>165326>Apparently /vt/'s PPM never recovered to pre-hack levels.I can't confirm now, but when the charts for it were on 4stats, the post-hack dip was one of the biggest among all boards.
>>165327Yeah, it's not even "Reddit but you can say nigger" anymore.
No.165348
>>165326>it feels like one big anonymous subreddit.not enough fake outrage
No.165380
>>165326>and are even paid by big vtubing companies to promote threads gee i sure hope that doesn't happen anywhere else haha especially on /v/ or /pol/ that would be bad
No.165389
>>165326From what i've heard a huge chunk of /vt/ moved to Holotower
No.165390
>>1653898moe also managed to retain quite a bit. 112 PPH is quite good for a small board.
No.165394
>>165390>112 PPHwas momentarily suprised until i remembered we were talking about tuberfags
yeah i guess that's not so surprising then
No.165395
>>165394There should be a better measure of organic activity.
Something like unique word sequences per hour, percentage of posts per hour that contain new images, or percentage of posts that receive replies to which the original poster replies back. Or some weighted combination of those.
No.165396
>>165384Posting a screencap and saying "I agree with this" should be a bannable offense.
No.165403
>>165384I think we urgently need to establish some ground-truths with we crosscheck incoming information and adopt some habits of mental hygiene such as default to null: The mental motion of “I didn’t really understand that post, or it didn't make too much sense to me, but sure, whatever, I’ll take the author’s word for it” is, in my experience, absolutely identical to “I didn’t really understand or couldn't relate to that text because it was bot-generated and didn’t make any sense so I couldn’t possibly have parsed it”, except that in the first case, I assume that the error lies with me rather than the text. This is not a safe assumption in a post-GPT world. Instead of “default to humility” (assume that when you don’t understand a passage, if it doesn't make sense in the context of your pre-established ground-truths and expectations of how a normal person should behave, but the overall message seems genuine and you’re just missing something) the ideal mental action in a world full of bots is “default to null” (if you don’t understand a passage, reflexively discard the message and assume you’re in the same mental state as if you’d never read it at all.)
No.165404
>>165403TN: "lol wut" means "lol bot"
No.165412
>>165410are people just retarded? it's still a 6 char captcha.
No.165420
>>165403I reread something until I understand it or understand why it's nonsense.
No.165421
>>165410I don't even get this when I serial ban evade to taunt a certain schizo mod. It's hilarious how these things only affect potential normal users.
No.165423
>>165412it's an ever so slightly higher hassle, something that sadly people aren't very equipped to deal with these days. (Seriously try getting the average normie gamer to install a game + mods on anything but Steam even with clear written instructions
they won't.)
Hell, I shouldn't be throwing stones I'm nowhere near the level of the technomancers I see around here
No.165424
>>165412Normally these come with a slider too. Don't know why retards like you defend them.
No.165429
>>165410I don't know. I find that one easier than the standard slider. It's easier to align using "only type", and it always asks the exact thing: letters with circles above.
If it started asking for letters with white or black circles, or alternating between circles and dashes, that's when it would get hard.
>>165421At first I thought I was getting it because I block the access to the HTML5 canvas data, but now I'm wondering if they turn it on globally on weekends during peak hours to slow down the posting flow and give the staff more time to act, as once it's Monday I get the normal captcha again, then "No captcha required".
No.165433
>>165423>it's an ever so slightly higher hassle, something that sadly people aren't very equipped to deal with these days. (Seriously try getting the average normie gamer to install a game + mods on anything but Steam even with clear written instructions they won't.)That's my point. It isn't a hassle unless you have extreme sight problems. Even the slider is not a problem because the circled letters are not even guaranteed to be in the slider.
No.165442
>>165326It never should have been made into a board. Not because I can't stand tumors but because everything that had been said over the decades on /tv/ or /v/ about not having a youtube/eceleb board applies directly to why /vt/ existing is a terrible idea.
The last time 4chan had anything resembling /vt/ the mods took a fucking hammer to old /cgl/. I guess that lesson's been forgotten or they think in the era of 200 mods and janitors this time they can catch it before it spills into real world crimes. Personally I think the board isn't worth that dice roll in the least.
No.165445
>>165442>real world crimeswut
Thing is, /vt/ and gachas represent like 30% of the site's total activity. And it was literally killing other topics. There's no containing that.
No.165452
>>165424It did come with a slider though
>>165429>If it started asking for letters with white or black circlesIt did though... look at the screenshot
>>165433I want to make it clear, I've never had a problem with the captcha myself (though then again I like my threads nice and slow) but I have seen an extreme amount of bitching about it (though granted that was around when the hack happened so everyone was in a retrospective criticizing mood)
No.165461
>>165446I used to lurk and post in denpa threads for a while.
No.165464
>>165403I am assuming that state with your post. I had a writing style like yours before. Readers aren't a compiler
No.165471
>>165470who are you quoting
No.165472
>>165471I was supposed to quote
>>165452. I had a problem with the image and deleted the original post
I probably should hide this thread. I know it's impossible, but I'm afraid of relapsing into checking 4chan daily, or even worse, end posting there again. That shit is not good for my head.
No.165476
>>165472instructions for quitting 4chan forever
- purchase a shiny new Tesla Model Y from tesla.com
- get your phone charger and some snacks
- hop in car
- set the destination to the other side of the country
- repeatedly shitpost and ban evade throughout the ride
- since you're driving past different cell towers you will eventually get a new ip block and evade local rangebans
- rinse and repeat until you get the entire country rangebanned
addiction solved :)
No.165477
>>165476Dumb post. Most "range bans" aren't even real range bans, just cookie/UA/TLS based bans, easy as fuck to bypass.
No.165478
>>165476So you're the one that got me rangebanned for the first time ever since 2010, the west has truly fallen'ded
I only use 1 thread though. I guess it's kinda addicting, if I'm bored enough, to check what other stupid shit is going on. But it's too much ragebait everywhere for me to wanna post
No.165485
/x/ is freaking the fuck out because some Wisconsin hillbilly found a UAP, livestreamed himself drilling into it, and died live.
No.165486
>>165485Seems like it's been contained into a thread general but the catalog featured 6 threads at once about it.
No.165487
>>165485Link to the main thread? Dont feel like browsing /x/ but that sounds kinda neat
I'd like to see the video at least
No.165489
>>165488>shiny metal objectWithout reading the thread or watching the video: radioactive waste?
No.165490
>>165489He did upload a video testing for radiation using a radio and it emitted the noises an electronic device does when being exposed to radiation.
No.165491
>>165488Well that looked fake as fuck but Iwannabelieb so Ill check the threads a bit
No.165492
It's likely an /x/ anon doing an ARG but he fucked up by doing it too good and convincing. Now /x/ and reddit are doxxing him to see if he's alive.
No.165503
>>165485>>165488Finally a good happening. I too think it sadly looks fake, but it's been a while since we've had "mysteries" like this and I'm a sucker for them until there's 100% direct proof for one case over another.
No.165511
>>165488Guy realized he fucked up and had to upload new videos proving he's alive likely because the police told him to do so lmao. This will go down as an /x/ ARG that went too far.
No.165513
Cloudflare just imploded in case you're wondering why you can't access sadpanda and some imageboards like Wapchan or Hikari
No.165514
>>165513I didn't expect there are imageboards that still use it when there are alternatives to it now.
No.165516
This also affects 4chan, but only if the 4chan board software thinks it needs to prompt you for a challenge, like when your IP changed.
No.165517
>>165514I remember wapchan specifically only implemented it when the 4chan outage happened and they got hit hard by traffic. In any case they got anubis so they were probably planning on removing it soon enough.
No.165518
Cloudflare is up again
No.165522
>>165518Now I can post tamamo in the fate/extra thread on /v/
No.165523
>>165517It's pretty neat to see how responsive figamin is. Literally one post telling him that Cloudflare is an evil company and that he should use Anubis instead and he instantly switched.
No.165524
>>165523I gain respect for him every time he comes up.
No.165526
>>165525Did I imagine this or did she have a much more obviously anime inspired design at first and it made people seethe?
No.165527
>>165526Unless something has changed, this is her design. I did see /g/ throw a shitfit about anubis and people posting ai art with her
No.165528
>>165526The first design was AI generated which made people seethe so it was changed to this cartoony creature
iirc the dev of Anubis makes people pay to change the image
>>165527It's amazing I don't know what it is about this design but it triggers my fight instinct
No.165530
>>165529Even cropped, I want to fuck houtengeki's anubis, this is insane. As for the AI anubis, it looks kinda like her but they at least gave her clothes and a chibi look so its different enough
No.165531
>>165511Why are there so many people in the comments shitting on the guy instead of just laughing it off? They seem butt-hurt over an internet prank.
No.165534
James came fully clean in the recent video and streams and says he had to call it quits because some of the people who found him visited his and / or his parents' workplace. The object was indeed DIY and supposedly got confiscated.
I've found all of this very interesting and entertaining to follow. I don't mind the prank itself at all, but what irks me personally is that the guy is a total douchebag about the reveal, acts like he's some kind of Lex Luthor in the flesh and makes fun of the people who were worried about him and those who didn't immediately dismiss his story. I assume the equally as stupid hate prior to the reveal got to him and now he's proud to be the villain.
As an interesting side note, he gave his thoughts on the Buga Sphere being a hoax as well.
Back to imageboards:
While this situation sadly opened my eyes to how /x/, too, has become completely unbrowsable compared to when I last checked it out, I really enjoyed those few anons completely feeding into the story for fun and even now claiming James was pressured into pretending this is a hoax. Some of those read like ex Baneposters.
No.165537
>>165536
How does it affect you personally?
No.165546
>>165513>Many of Cloudflare’s services experienced a significant outage today beginning around 11:20 UTC. It was fully resolved at 14:30 UTC. The root cause of the outage was a configuration file that is automatically generated to manage threat traffic. The file grew beyond an expected size of entries and triggered a crash in the software system that handles traffic for a number of Cloudflare’s services.https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2025/11/18/cloudflare-down-global-outage-impacting-large-parts-of-the-internet/That's hilarious.
No.165550
>>165514Holotower still uses it
No.165551
>>165534/x/ has been a schizo and druggie circlejerk for years now and its only been getting worse. Makes me wish there was an imageboard for actual paranormal and horror content. I found the James thread and the Roy Jay thing from a few months ago pretty entertaining though.
No.165553
>>165551>Makes me wish there was an imageboard for actual paranormal (...)Same here. I've never been an /x/ regular or anything of the like, just lurked every few years when I randomly got interested in some topic again, but it would be great to have an address with actual moderation. Perhaps someone involved would be fine with recommending a place, that is if Kissu wouldn't mind the obvious advertising of something that is unrelated to its target audience?
No.165555
>>1655514/jp/ has been a better source of /x/ content for me than modern 4/x/
Of course, the best ever source is own delusions and research based on delusions
No.165556
>>165528moe layman here
it's the swollen up ugly hands, nonsensical hair structure, thick neck with weird connection to the head
No.165557
>>165550Holotower probably gets an insane amount of traffic on a regular basis so that's more understandable.
No.165559
>roachanon
>yurifag
>holo & 3DPD
>/jp/hu
man 4/jp/ just gets more raped as time goes on
No.165560
>>165553It's not a fully paranormal imageboard but Uboachan has /cc/. The problem is that Uboachan is very dead and neglected, and barely anyone used that board when it was active anyway
No.165563
>>165477I'm half convinced they use the term "range ban" as shorthand for any combination of cookie bans, content-based heuristics, browser fingerprinting, actual IP range bans, untested third party blocklists and randomized "ID yourself to bypass" incentives these days.
For example, I just got hit with this for the first time. New private browsing session, so it's not a cookie ban. Only made a few unobjectionable posts from this browser profile a few weeks ago, which has settings specific enough that it's probably globally unique, so it's probably not user agent related either. And I seriously doubt my landline ISP in a small non-English country that doesn't have a reputation for spam attracts a large enough percentage of shitposters to incur an actual range ban for other users' behavior. That leaves the last two options.
Either way, it's a clever way to boost activity on better imageboards.
No.165568
>>165563You can be fully convinced of that. You can just try with a user agent changer for example. Sometimes I think I should read the leaked source code to check what things they tried, but I guess I'm too lazy.
No.165570
>>165534When I was much younger /x/ was considered the posterchild for great threads on /b/ yielding another shit board.
I do have to say though I really miss the days of 'wow these threads are great let's do a board for them' vs the containment board anger that so predominated the 10's.
No.165572
>>165559>>165566>roachanonMay I ask what that person's gimmick is?
No.165573
>>165561Just give up anon, it has terminal cancer and the janisters are making sure the cancer doubles until the board just becomes japan general like they always wanted
No.165576
>>165570>When I was much younger /x/ was considered the posterchild for great threads on /b/ yielding another shit board.That was... /tg/ and /x/? I guess soc counts too
No.165578
>>165555Yes, the esoterica threads have been really cool and informational about a lot of background stuff I was unaware of. Some of them go to great lengths to dig up stuff that's hard to find on the web, which goes right with ZUN's comment that you cant find really enjoyable things with google. This site here alone is a gem
https://archive-of-the-sealed-gods.neocities.org/.
No.165579
>>165572Same guy that would post "having tea" in a bunch of places. Also avatarfagged with Madoka for a while. Just an attention seeking faggot that blogposts a shitton.
No.165584
>>165572A guy who keeps making completely pointless threads blogposting on what he'll do for the day. What pisses off everyone is that those kinds of threads are effectively banned in almost all boards except for 4/jp/ for some God forsaken reason.
No.165586
>>165579>>165584Wasn't he on kissu for like a hot minute before he got ran off?
No.165588
>>165555Delusions, or messages from beyond?
No.165589
>>165586Dunno, I just remember banning him from my own imageboard back when I ran one, then seeing him pop up on a few other places before settling in 4/jp/.
No.165590
Around this time it's just schizos schizos schizos schizos on /a/.
So tiring.
No.165595
T-they got me... I can't post images from new sessions anymore. I tried everything, but images only work on already trusted sessions.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that it's a measure for stopping CP spam and other shit.
No.165597
Can't seem to post in Wapchan currently due to an error.
>Your browser sent an invalid or no HTTP referer.
Is what pops up. Not the only anon with this issue either.
No.165598
Classic vichan issue
No.165600
>>165584Is it the same guy who made a thread to spam his drunk ramblings?
No.165601
>>165597This has been fixed
No.165605
>>165584report it for off-topic dummy
No.165606
>>165605nta but he's been reported many times already and never gets b&
No.165607
>>165606weird. link me a thread
No.165608
>>165584Accelerationism is the way. More retardation would fix 4/jp/. We had been getting got plenty of good migrations abd splinters already after all
No.165611
>report lots of schizo posting
>some time passes
>only an unrelated and not reported post saying "nigger" in the same thread gets deleted
What the fuck is wrong with the 4chan mods?
No.165618
>>165611What isn't wrong with them you mean
No.165621
>>165608You have no idea how retarded /jp/ used to be over a decade ago.
No.165626
Daily post of whining about the completely fucking shit moderation on /a/.
It would be a net positive if they didn't moderate it at all.
No.165635
>>165590>schizos >sYou're underestimating how many "posters" are actually one single person.
If you do this kind of shit, eventually you'll slip when juggling personas and end up in a collage full of evidence linking every single one of your patterns.
I think that most of these "slips" are on purpose just to grab attention desu.
No.165637
>>165635>and end up in a collage full of evidence linking every single one of your patterns. Oh I know these. Schizos make them to "prove" something but nobody reads them.
You got a point though. I believe it's easy for a single person to have this much effect if they're obsessed enough. A sane person wouldn't think it's possible, because even if they try, they give up soon, because they realize it's an unhealthy waste of time.
No.165639
>>165637You can tell you're dealing with an actually mentally ill poster when they go into a huge melty after someone posts "don't give him attention" advice.
Seeing that is kind of funny but also very pathetic.
No.165647
it's kinda sad when no one actually gives him attention and he proceeds to make the thread unusable by arguing about stupid shit literally no one understands
No.165649
>>165647And then every poster other than the off-topic spammer gets banned for complaining
No.165651
>>165649This feeling that the mods actually help the schizos has grown so strong. But of course, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
No.165652
>>165637you best start believing in samefag schizos. Go to the other /hap/ and check the resident furfag secret agent larper. Last episode he had he pretended to have a fight with tripfag that just happened to have intimate knowledge of every thread regular. for 600 posts.
No.165653
>>165651> never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.True, although there certainly are some compromised janitors. They're always camping certain threads and/or trying to shill (I'm referring to Gookshit)
No.165662
>>165651>never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.or what? some dumbass will insult you?
No.165664
>>165651Malice is incompetence.
No.165668
>>165664Malice is an aesthetic choice some are competent in.
No.165670
>>165651>never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.Hanlon's razor is a fine rule in general, but you shouldn't adhere to it religiously; sometimes what looks like incompetence actually
is malice. Or it's both at the same time.
No.165696
>>165664>Malice is incompetence.You are basically outing yourself as malicious with that lie.
No.165713
>>165670>Hanlon's razor is a fine rule in generalNo.
No.165752
>>165563Educated guess this is caused by Firefox 145 changes to their anti-fingerprinting in Private Browsing, which now offends preexisting 4chan heuristics.
Post a small handful of times on a fresh header and fresh cookie and it'll ban you after a handful of posts when it can't get a read on you.
No.165753
>>165752Why the hell does Firefox use that kind of versioning standard? Jumping from 1.0 to 2.0 for minor changes, Are they retarded?
No.165754
>>165752true. it gives me a perpetual, unsolvable captcha on mullvad.
No.165755
>>165753What? They just increment the number on each normal release. Minor releases only happen sometimes, for minor fixes.
No.165758
>>165752>after a handful of postsWhat is the purpose? I'd think these heuristics are meant to stop spammers, who usually will assume they'll get banned or even IP wiped soon anyway, and just hop to the next IP and session.
No.165761
>>165758Again this is a guess but I think it's seeing what it considers to be a new users, then it sees that new users making "too many" posts, and it's weighing from the beginning it doesn't have a good fingerprint of you. So you're triggering a flood detection threshold where you're wrongly presumed to be a nefarious residential proxy.
No.165769
>>165753They changed to rapid versioning to match Chrome. Look up how long it used to take from Firefox to go from 3 to 4.
No.165788
>>165771that's on topic, you just don't like the poster.
No.165789
>>165771He reminds me of kissu
No.165799
4chan has degraded to such a degree that illegitimate users have a better experience using the site than legitimate ones. As long as that remains true we'll see more of Gabe Newell's 'piracy is a service problem' type shit unfolding where more and more users are pushed toward the very thing 4chan's supposedly fighting an existential battle with.
The proxy sites have gone from a tiny cadre of vandals and steganography fueled porn traders to just a way to use what's left of 4chan without being treated like a threat. By any measure team4chan have ironically fueled their proliferation.
No.165800
>>1657994chan will just keep getting worse because that's what Gayape wants. The site needs new mods with different approaches to moderation. Of course, that'll never happen for many reasons and excuses.
No.165801
>>165788Well yeah the poster can actually play games but he's such a pain in the ass to deal with as
>>165584 said, he would go and just keep talking to himself hoping that someone gives him attention
No.165802
>>165584He probably is banned and is just using that proxy site.
No.165803
>>165799>4chan has degraded to such a degree that illegitimate users have a better experience using the site than legitimate ones. This is hilariously and sadly true.
No.165805
>>165799How fucking deranged you have to be to think that literal mentally ill, emotionally disabled social retards who are not wanted *anywhere*, not even by the communities they are part of (because almost all ecker users are general thread posters) are somehow part of an organic process.
Let's mix topics up: Every single one of those schizos is basically roachanon. That's who you are defending.
I'm not even talking about the ones that use the tool because they won't let them talk about fucking children in the open.
Posters that are actively fucked by the rules are genuine pieces of shit who don't even have the theory of mind necessary to not sperg out at strangers on the internet. Low quality human beings.
No.165806
>>165752You might be on to something. I do use Firefox with anti-fingerprinting settings, and other sites like YouTube and Gmail have recently started blocking me in private browsing mode as well.
That rangeban expired after 3 days, but after making another 2-3 inoffensive posts, I got hit with another one. I'll test what happens if I post again (in a few days?) from a container tab with a persistent cookie.
It's beginning to feel more and more like a fool's errand though. I only visited the place for seasonal threads and yearly events anymore, but seasonal discussion has declined a lot since the hack and many events have their own off-site hangouts.
No.165808
>>165805I can't comprehend having an axe to grind so bad that you write something this stupid and obviously besides my point.
It wouldn't surprise me if this sort of short sighted seething resentment is the very animus behind 4chan's self evident self destructive behavior. The sort of resentment that lets a person turn off their brain and paint everyone affected by their idiotically broad actions as someone who must be the narrowest example of who they believe deserves to be punished the most. That's schizo shit.
I won't be team4chan's collateral damage. I won't be blacklisted by amateur hour heuristics. I won't buy a pass. I won't be the Dolphin in the Tuna net. And there are other completely banal posters like me, false positives like me, some in this very thread voicing their experience. Some will just stop posting altogether. Some will, like me, elect to use a proxy for the odd post I still make to not be hassled for something I'm not guilty of in the first place.
And that irony: The driving of increasingly regular users to use what were originally tools for only the worst of the worst posters because 4chan keeps fucking with regular god damn users, THAT is what my post was about. Is that exclusively what's proliferated the proxies? No. Is it proliferating the proxies and making them bigger and more diverse and healthier than ever? Yes, it most certainly is.
No.165809
>>165808How about just not posting on 4chan anymore instead of encouraging a child molester? You know Hiro sees the number go up and thinks he's doing good, right?
No.165810
>>165809>You know Hiro sees the number go upThe only number Hiro sees going up is his bank account. He doesn't think about 4chan or its users at all.
No.165811
>>165808It's not an axe to grind, it's being tired with dumbasses rationalizing the acts of people that were any of them posting here they would hate, just so they can keep pretending their boogieman is the problem.
The proxyfags have been discussed to death, all their dirty dishes aired. What fucking ground ground do even to have say hanging out with child porn spammers is a service problem? Do you think the tweaking meth addict in your street's corner is only tweaking because society won't let him be?
>The driving of increasingly regular users to use what were originally tools for only the worst of the worst posters because 4chan keeps fucking with regular god damn usersRegular users don't get fucking banned because they are busy discussing their hobbies and enjoying forums as accessories for their life, not their entire life.
>elect to use a proxy for the odd post I still make to not be hassled for something I'm not guilty of in the first place. And you don't have the nerve to say what you post that would get you banned.
Want a fun fact? proxyfags regularly frame regular users who don't obey them by copy spamming their posts or threads so they get banned as collateral. You are defending your abuser.
No.165812
>>165806Update: Looks like I was just unblocked. We'll see if my theory hold in ~24 hours.
No.165813
>>165811Some of the people who use that service have a genuinely strange mentality where they think they're some kind of badass outlaw that will bring justice to 4chan or something.
I've definitely been banned for bullshit reasons on 4chan... and evaded them normally. How badly do you need to fuck up where you HAVE to use that thing to evade a ban? team4chan doesn't hand out rangebans like candy from what I can tell.
I just don't respect the moderation there (and you'll probably understand if you had the misfortune of interacting with them on IRC) but I don't understand the guys who make it their life's mission to make them hit the "delete & ban" button slightly more.
No.165815
https://hiddenservice.cc/bans, a site that kept a record of public bans, was shut down 3 days ago because mods at 4chan stopped reporting their bans, making the site useless:
https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/23632459/#23645011https://185.10.68.107:1776/ (4bans, the owner never bothered to get a new domain) seems to be down as well, but the owner didn't announce its shutdown. It was another site that listed public bans.
No.165816
>>165813>team4chan doesn't hand out rangebans like candy from what I can tell. This thread says otherwise. Either they or some automated system is handing out rangebans like tap water.
No.165817
>>165816I don't think they're real rangebans. They're some sort of subterfuge.
No.165818
>>165817Does the difference matter from a well-mentioned user's perspective? If they can't post, they don't know why. and they don't know how to fix it, they will stop posting and go elsewhere while the ban evaders this system is meant to block will keep ban evading.
No.165819
>>165818*well-intentioned
No.165823
Probably the only good thing about not ever having used 4chan is that I can go to a board and enjoy whatever is there without having any preconceptions of how it ought to be. Although much like with food, eating the same things regularly starts making the poor quality more obvious.
No.165824
>>165823How did you find out about kissu and presumably other imageboards?
No.165825
Guys. I have some horrible news about ota.
No.165826
>>1658248chan through a friend in middleschool.
No.165828
>>165813> a genuinely strange mentality where they think they're some kind of badass outlaw that will bring justice to 4chan or something.If only they did it because they have a little australian in them and genuinely enjoy shit(te)posting.
Most are overattached control freaks trying to spite this or that thread / poster who does things they don't like. 4chan completely mindbreaks this type of person as they don't have any way to actually force people to do what they want without burning the whole place down - so that's exactly what they do.
No.165843
Do you even know the kind of """people""" that are behind the proxy cabal?
No.165845
>>165825That time of the month?
No.165846
>>165811>And you don't have the nerve to say what you post that would get you banned.Not him, but:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283987267/#284018392>Global Rule 13: Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.1 day ban.
No.165847
>>165824>>165826Huh. I don't even dare to speak about imageboards IRL. Am I the only one that discovered Kissu though the message in the 4chan X userscript?
Offtopic: I added an entry for 4chan on the site blocker extension (and I will probably blacklist it on the router later to make it harder to circumvent). Every time I end going there for one reason or another, I always regret it.
No.165848
>>165846you linked to this happening to you before and i still don't get it
why post sophie in the gochiusa thread? how'd you start doing that?
No.165849
>>165848It's common to post other characters in gochiusa threads. But somehow, only sophie triggers the mod. Posting sophie was ok at first, but now it's a sure ban. But seemingly only when a specific mod is online.
No.165851
>>165816I remember a few years ago I couldn't post anything because all of the IPs I used were range banned, but I guess thats why they switched captchas and made the posting more extraneous, since they were losing post count.
>>165824I visited chiru.no and found their site list had a lot of good spinoff boards and kissu was on it. I think the owner pulled the plug tho, so its gone now
No.165854
>>165849Seems straightforward enough to explain. The mod probably banned someone posting Sophie and is mistaking people posting her for the ban evader. The mod can't prove it, and he knows he's going to be doing a lot of collateral damage and that the evader would just switch proxies anyway, so he goes with an unappealable 1-day ban. Stupid but not mysterious.
No.165856
>>165559Don't forget the "female lurkers" guy
No.165857
>>165854Nah, he just bans everyone. It didn't start with a ban evasion. You're just another dumbfuck trying to explain irrational mod behavior.
No.165858
>>165857>It didn't start with a ban evasion.How can you be sure of this? I'm not saying the mod is being rational, but I doubt he just decided to start doing that out of the blue. There must be some narrative, possibly false, in the mod's head that justifies to himself what he's doing.
No.165859
>>165846literally 3 posts in
>dead generalThere you have it. You likely have an history of shitposting, or someone in the stealth general does
No.165860
>>165858Don't bother. Arguments like this always boil down to people in general threads trying to control the vibe of their community and getting pissy when mods realize they are being disruptive.
I swear we need to make a frmal division between fandom generals and "purposed" generals with an actual reason to be a general. The quality discrepancy between both is a larger than the grand canyon.
No.165862
>>165860I think there are different types of generals, here's my subjectively correct list.
>StorytimesCatalogue bloat
>""Stealth"" genre generalsYuri threads, Isekai threads, those gay threads that always have the same picture
>"Purposed" generalsDrawfag, scanlation, buyfag, that kind of stuff.
>Anime from PREVIOUS seasons generalThis is most of the board, instead of one-off threads, you have a bunch of faggots that basically monopolize discussion as long as nothing is airing because nobody gives a fuck about the source for these anime.
>Shounen Jump generalsPractically just /opg/, /csm/, and /dbs/ (migrated to /ghost/ after the purge) nowadays. Maybe also Kagurabachi threads (previously /kgb/) even though there's only two threads a week.
No.165863
>>165860You know nothing about gochiusa threads. The mods don't either. I guess you feel good making up stupid explanations for things you don't understand.
No.165864
>>165863>You know nothing about gochiusa threads. Pfft the mere fact you are saying "gochiusa threads" as if they were a standalone community is enough to get the full picture.
You are not even special in being one, there's more than two dozen stealth gens in /a/ despite being like, 1/4th the size of /v/.
No.165866
>>165862>and /dbs/ (migrated to /ghost/ after the purge) nowadays.ghost are the die hards, dbs general split and half went to the /co/ death battle general, which somehow managed to force them to actually be on top topic. now you get unironic anime powerlevel discussion on co of all places.
I feel obliged to acknowledge dbs also managed to grow beyond general status and become actual 4chan culture.
No.165868
>>165866>went to the /co/ death battle generalI had no idea since I never use /co/
No.165869
>>165862there is nothing wrong with storytimes
No.165870
>>165847I held and still hold little reservation over talking about anything if it's brought up.
No.165871
>>165858one of the resident /a/ schizos used to avatarfag as Sophie, that's why mods are trigger happy about it. that's the reason
No.165872
>>165869>nothingThey could just dump one volume a week instead of having a thread permanently up occupying catalogue space.
No.165874
>>165871Which resident schizo?
No.165875
>>165847a 21yo kohai asked me why i'm browsing 4chan and i wtf'd and straight up told him he's too young to know about this foreign language meme forum
No.165876
>>165875One of my friends literally guessed I'm a 4chinner from "my vibe"
No.165879
>>165876Shit, don't even tell me about that. I haven't been able to completely lose certain patterns of formatting, speech, expressions and community specific jargon that can easily out you to another 4channer. And in certain areas of internet, I need to be pretty careful with that.
It's like that pool. If someone becomes red faced upon seeing the image, they are in the know.
No.165880
>>165878I want to suck their toes so much I'd turn the foot worship session into an imageboard happening to surpass the April 4chan hack
No.165881
>>165879To be fair, the dude that called me out is also a touhoufag and kinda obsessed with Koishi.
It takes one to know one.
No.165883
50353445
Do have to wonder if /jp/ mods just really like taking the piss, lol
There was another made immediately after that one, both are still up
No.165884
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/284008424130 deleted posts, and no end. Another demonstration how the mods are not in control at all.
No.165886
>>165883>>165884DONT think ack or tuberspam are happenings
No.165889
>>165886The way this is "managed" by the mods is a new level of disappointment.
>>165887So we're only supposed to talk about your clique's obscure image board network that have like 100 users in total?
No.165892
My fap session is more of a happening than your constant whining about boards you can't control.
No.165904
>>165889no, but we are not your fucking placebo for customer support
No.165915
Is ota and gnfos down for everyone or just me?
No.165916
>>165915the ssl cops got ota
gn moved to a .vip domain a while ago
No.165926
>>165884I caught a 3 day for talking ABOUT ack and this faggot will continue to spam threads until the end of time.
No.165927
>>165916Ota is inaccessible. This doesn't happen unless the IP no longer has anything on it.
No.165937
>>165927I know. The cops warned him multiple times to get his SSL certificate in order and he didn't do it so they deleted the site.
No.165940
>>165937what the fuck are you talking about?
No.165941
>>165940it's true i saw it happen in real time
No.165944
>>165926That's just their broken logic.
No.165945
>>165879I have the same problem. I have a really hard time breaking out of 4chan-esque writing, because I started using that site at a young enough age that it's all I've ever really done.
In general, it's weird to think just how much 4chan has shaped me as a person, considering I don't really think of myself as a "4chan guy" at this point. I definitely started using the site at way too young of an age. A middle-schooler shouldn't have fifteen tabs worth of racial-slur filled arguments about trivial things going at once, and he especially shouldn't be clicking back and forth between them obsessively, trying to get the last word in all of them. People say being surrounded by that kind of thing toughens you up, but in reality, it does the opposite. You come to think that that level of intensity is the norm, that people in general are stupid assholes, and it makes you irrationally depressed about the world around you.
No.165961
>>165884That thread could have just been deleted for low effort…
No.165990
>>165875You know the average age of a new 4chinner is like 15, right?
No.165993
>>165990I wanted to say something but then I realized that I was like 16-17 when I first found it.
Time is fucking stupid, we should stop doing it.
No.165995
>>165945In my case I would say that 4chan has changed me for the better. It has had its hiccups sure, but overall I have become more critical of reality and aware of different perspectives. Its still massively more open and free than other sites despite its jannies... and more lulzy too.
Now, what I DO think is its biggest problem nowadays is the perception of relationships and women. Its completely divorced from reality and in all honesty is probably some crest research/government/etc. campaign to destroy the minds of young men. Sexuality is such an enormous part of humanity and if you're a believer of the supernatural the energy behind it is lucrative. Using boards like /r9k/, /fit/, and /pol/ is a net negative experience nowadays.
No.165997
>>165990I remember reading something like
"the cool thing amongst high schoolers now is going to 4chan. It's not under the iceberg anymore", but I still tend to think that they end in Tiktok and Twitter first and the mean age of a 4tard is their early 20s (which was my age when I found about it).
>>165995/pol/ was always a mistake, but when not losing users (and potential growth/profits) matters more than the well being of users, shit happens.
No.166001
>>165990in 2012 maybe.
average poster on /pol/ is old enough to be my dad and i'm my 30s. /v/ the "youngest" board has people talking about their wife, job and children on every thread. anonymous IB are senpai things now, the few kids that are there do because they can't be kids on their communities ie get banned from a games discord for being retarded
No.166007
>>166001The idea of people on 4chan having wives and kids is so perverse to me.
No.166019
>>166001even on sites like wap and hikari where the staff are all in their 20s they still heavily enforce 18+ and ban underage on sight
No.166020
>>166019I'm in my late 20's now but I've been on 4chan since I was about 13. It's really not that hard to get around the age rule on an anonymous site where you can post without an account.
No.166021
>>166019As one should, nobody wants to have teenbros running about the site, attracts the feds.
No.166022
>>166017I know this MO. Someone from the proxyfag site tried an hostile takeover, down to advertising the proxy site to "stealth" spamming pizza.
No.166023
>>166017> its funny how so many people are just waiting for the website to die.And this line is quite sus now that I think of it.
No.166029
>>166017don't ban. shadowban and hard redirect these people to mental health resources (or goatse) idk.
that's what I'd do if I was an imageboard admin.
No.166030
>>166017>>166022almost every general on there suffers from this now
No.166031
>>165608I wouldn't want to condone accelerationism but if I ever see thread bullshittery happen like "/v/hu getting angry and possessive about their drawfags going to 4/jp/ that they start harassing them in 4/jp/ threads and trying to incite drama to like keep them confined to /v/ like they're abusive spouses or something", "tourists attempting to pretend to be /jp/sie natives and harassing people for threads about other /jp/ topics like Rozen Maiden" or "the cabal formed from the various AI generals in other boards deciding to pick a fight with 4/jp/'s general for not being chic enough"
I'll be sure to remind people they have options (though I don't think I've ever convinced someone to make the move personally)
>>165995I infinitely value my time spent on imageboards and small forums than I do on any social media platform precisely because of that
>>166007One of the drawfags in current 4/jp/ is tewimom and she's literally a mother of four who's indoctrinating all her kids into becoming 2hu fans
This isn't a joke. No.166036
>>166029You wouldn't make it as an imageboard admin.
No.166037
>>166031I did not actually expect someone to have four children and raise them with 2hu dolls..
No.166040
>>166031>>166037it's always gonna be lame as fuck to have to force your kids to like anything.
>>166029regular bans work fine and are transparent. shadow bans massively reduce the trust in the administration
No.166046
>>165995I would proably say the same as seeing so many fuck ups in the site made me push to improve myself so I don't end up like them.
I think one of the most life changing quotes I've seen is that people there would spend their entire lives living other people's lives instead of their own.
No.166048
>>166017Why is it always discord?
No.166096
>>165995Is there any imageboard that isn't unbearable like that and doesn't ban those topics like relationships and self improvement?
Kissu could do with a board for that stuff. Kidding, not.
>>166046do you have the quote?
That is kinda me. But I have no motivation to improve myself even though I think I want to. Probably depressed and definitely anxious and too scared to do anything. Completely wasted the past few years. I don't want to stay like this.
No.166121
>>165937ota was my favorite site and otamin just let it die its NOT fair
No.166123
>>166096wapchan has /kind/ which allows those topics
No.166124
>>166123Yeah but /kind/ sucks ass.
No.166126
>>166124ota would have survived if you didn’t make henri leave
No.166129
>>166096>relationships and self improvement?>Kissu could do with a board for that stuff. Just try a thread on /qa/
No.166130
>>166129By the way I have no idea whether that won't get the thread deleted.
No.166131
>>166096>do you have the quote?I would need to find it
No.166274
For real tho, where did the ota posters even go? They were so reluctant to go here and I don't see any trace of them elsewhere, from Nen to GN.
No.166275
>>166096wizard chan probably
No.166278
>>166275That's a bit ironic but those types of boards are perfect for those kinds of topics.
No.166281
>>166280really not escaping from the cp huh.
No.166309
4taba is no more
No.166313
>>166309ripperino but isn't this like the fourth time it died
No.166315
>>165811You're a god damned illiterate moron who can only ignore context and invent straw men.
I was never banned.
No.166318
>>166309vern has failed us...
No.166319
and I'd keep getting away with it too if it weren't for you medling rodents
No.166344
>>166315Right, and you just happen to jump in the defense of proxyfags twice in a row.
Of course you can claim you weren't the guy who got his posts deleted yesterday, but it would be an incredible coincidence that you just accidentally brought the topic back again.
No.166345
lolz, this argument is so inorganic
No.166347
>>166346Well I asked what happened to 4taba and i sitll havent gotten an answer
No.166348
it went poof
No.166349
>>166347should give it to wapchan
No.166352
>>166346nothing ever happens
No.166371
>>166347Was shot in detroit
No.166384
>>166383You can tell it's truly a dead board when they'll sticky a megacorp ad for free just because it has cirno in it.
No.166385
>>166383>>166384Locking replies to that sticky makes it look even more like a straight up advert.
No.166388
>>166387I think it's the first Touhou sticky in 5+ years? Or did the last release have a sticky for it?
No.166389
>>166388I can't remember any Touhou release getting a sticky.
No.166394
>>166393For context, this has happened multiple times and is currently happening if you check the last post in most current threads. At least Kissu does a pretty smart thing by having deleted posts undo their bumps.
No.166397
>>166393Why are they angry?
No.166398
>>166397They're unimpressed at your penis
No.166400
>>166383The only time mods care about touhou is when corpos give them advertisement neetbux. /jp/ is the normalfag board now, so no more reason to go there.
>>166393Thats been going on longer than /vt/umers invading, the idol threads did that kuso all the time.
No.166404
>>166403I'd say it's 50/50, I think they took it down because they were done humoring the local population.
No.166407
>>166403Nah, they just likely put the sticky down because the mods don't give a fuck about non-idolfag non-vtumor /jp/
No.166411
Creating /jp/ was moot's only real mistake.
No.166413
>>166411¥making moderation anonymous and unaccountable¥Naruto Day¥advertising /jp/¥expanding the board selection beyond nerdy hobby stuff¥continuing to do so after newcomers kept starting fights with the natives and drawing unwanted attention and legal trouble¥never reversing unpopular decisions despite overwhelming negative feedback¥selling the site to a known scumbag¥not demanding any kind of veto power after the saleI'd say he has a lot more to answer for than "why did you make a 2hu board"
No.166427
>>166411the 2 tiers system between janitors and mods is completely unnecessary and serves no purpose at this point.
Literally came to be because most mods were moot's irl friends and he couldn't order them around.
Now the moderation pipeline is all kinds of fucked because jannies are literally gimped on their ability to moderate, and have to depend on mod approval to use half the tools that are "only for mods" for literally no good reason when the entire thing can be streamlined by having mods check activity logs instead of moderate directly and let jannies work their boards independently.
4chan's management practices are basically a case study for the necessity of human resources departments.
No.166428
>>166427>the necessity of human resources departments.I have to deal with HR daily and I can say this is a bad example.
No.166429
>>166400I only go there for the Vocaloid and 07th Expansion threads at this point. And both of them are kuso but sometimes there are a few good posts.
No.166432
>>166428I mean real HR not the "customer service for employees" meme.
No.166434
>>166427>the 2 tiers system between janitors and mods is completely unnecessaryAt 4chan's scale, having multiple tiers of staff is probably unavoidable. Admins of small imageboards can just appoint trusted friends as mods, but that stops scaling once they need to hire more mods than they can get to know personally.
A 2-tier system could help with vetting and promotion if the board software had some kind of staff reputation system, mods actually cared, and the admin/head mod didn't play favorites.
For example:
Assign each mod to one or two boards based on their affinity with the board's topic and culture. Have each board's mods interview prospective jannies and hire them by blind majority vote. Track the amount of hours per week each janny is online, their ratio of interventions per hour, and the percentage of their interventions that align with the majority. (New jannies have a trial period during which their actions only take effect after 3 jannies agree.)
Once their trial period ends, give jannies with a high enough hours-to-approved-inte
rventions ratio the power to hand out short bans, but track the ratio of bans that are successfully appealed and silently shadowban jannies whose appeal ratio is too high. (The "silently" part is important to weed out infiltrators. Keep them working without knowing if they have any power to make sure power isn't their motivation.)
Mods must post one "state of the union" sticky per year where they answer meta questions. Admins review their answers, give mods one warning if they seem out of touch with the community, and fire them if they don't improve after one year. Jannies that serve for multiple years with a good ratio are first in line when new mods need to be appointed.
Of course, the simpler solution is to split your site before it grows to the point where it needs that kind of organizational overhead, because any community with a 5+ digit number of posters is probably too internally divided to be a real community.
No.166438
Why is whining about /jp/ allowed and welcomed, but not whining about /a/?
No.166439
>>166438I don't like dealing with children. So stop behaving like one.
No.166440
>>166427>the entire thing can be streamlined by having mods check activity logs instead of moderate directly and let jannies work their boards independently.That's a good point. Why not do this? Have the mods moderate the jannies instead.
No.166441
>>166439So you can't explain it. OK.
No.166442
>>166441The thread is full of /a/ complaints. Dozens if not hundreds. Lose the victim complex.
No.166444
>>166443A sloppy takedown attempt prepares for a possible organized and competent one. Nice going, shartumors.
No.166445
>>166443Would be a shame if it does go down for a little while, at least Ive got 204 GB of loli porn downloaded just in case
No.166446
>>166443One of their devs seemingly posted on /g/ too.
No.166449
When I was using gelbooru far back it had an issue with cp. So does Pixiv to be honest but they're more proactive in dealing with it.
Who knows if this is actually the issue though. The false report thing might be them pretending.
No.166450
>>166449Are you serious? The sharties are not even subtle about spamming fake reports.
No.166452
>>166443Should switch to Anubis
No.166453
>>166449I wonder if Gelbooru and the other boorus gets the same issue lots of imageboards get where a malicious user or users insist on manually spamming CP links, sometimes at timeframes (but never at the same exact time, hence why I believe it's not a bot). This list tracks down the spammer accross multiple sites, though some sites are so fast at deleting it they don't get registered:
https://xj9k.neocities.org/ No.166456
>>166450dunno. I'm just figuratively saying that gelbooru isn't some innocent entity.
No.166457
>>166456How the fuck is it not?
No.166469
I cannot believe there's no global rule against sharteens, not even after the hack. They're a subhuman scourge and need to be exterminated.
No.166470
>>166452Depending on the tier and settings used, Cloudflare does more than just stop DoS attacks and bots/scrappers and can't be replaced with just Anubis.
No.166473
>>166456Ive never seen CP on gel (and I browse daily) so they seem to be doing a good enough job cleaning it up, I dont see how its the boorus fault an occasional cunt posts illegal images there
No.166474
>>166473>I dont see how its the boorus fault an occasional cunt posts illegal images thereMy guess is anon you're replying to is baiting in bad faith.
Many much cases lately.
No.166475
>>166469the staff loves frogs and cancer men
No.166476
>>166473>>166474Posting images on Gelbooru requires first accruing enough reputation to enable it, you can't freely post it as if it were an imageboard or some other regular file hosting service, and once posted images are publicly listed for all to see, you can't hide them. Unless that retard posts any sort of evidence whatsoever, there's no reason to believe Gel has anything close to a CP problem.
No.166477
>>166476What are the chances the 4 makes users create accounts in order to be able to use the site?
No.166479
>>166477Practically null, it'd be suicide and everyone knows it.
No.166482
>>166479I mean the staff feels very disconnected from the userbase, they could do it if it means fighting the spam
No.166485
>>166477What's surprising to me is that people think they don't already have stealth accounts on the 4. Think about it, Cloudflare fingerprints your device and you are forced to post from your home IP.
No.166489
>>166485For that, it's too easy to evade bans without changing your fingerprint. They might record it for legal reasons (or cloudflare will record it), but they're not using it to identify ban evaders.
After all these years, known spammers like ACK still spam regularly. Imagine if ACK spammed CP instead of schizo delusions.
No.166491
>>166490
You seem to be talking about how some anti-tr*nny memes use ack like a sound effect? ACK in my post is a specific person (Anti Crack Kun) who has nothing to do with that topic. He's been spamming schizo delusions since around 2011 and nobody can stop him. There's a "community" of counter-schizos who specifically bait him and try to summon him. A thread infested by both is usually lost.
No.166498
>>166489anything fingerprint and above requires asking desuwa to get involved.
you could probably stop ACK with a simple browser fingerprint ban. likely been done before too. but the next browser update rolls out, he changes mobile device, and you have to do it again.
cloudfare likely deleted most data and would never let you use it to ID users either way.
No.166499
>>166498>ut the next browser update rolls out, he changes mobile device, and you have to do it again.Exactly. That type of schizo will shy no effort to get around any such blocks. If 4chan would act competent and quick, you could probably frustrate him by completely blocking him after a first post, even if he went through trouble like buying a new mobile device just to evade his ban. But the 4chan staff is slow, incompetent, and uncaring. It's the detroit of websites.
>cloudfare likely deleted most data and would never let you use it to ID users either way.Really? It's probably very easy to find out what data cloudflare supplies to website admins, but I've never tried to read their API docs.
No.166501
It's down.
No.166502
so is cloudflare dead again
Downdetector doesn't work either
No.166504
it's so fucking over
No.166505
Maybe they will decentralize the internet
lol
No.166506
we are so fucking back
No.166554
Crazy how people are okay with middlemen like cloudflare controlling the entire internet. It's such a dystopia.
No.166559
I rarely post on 4 anymore but when I did a few days ago I noticed that each time I could post once, then get temporarily blocked to persuade me to register an email. I thought at first it was just my phone, so I switched to work wifi but then it happened again.
Curiously, it resets. So I could jump between my connections and just onepost each time.
No.166560
>>166559>then get temporarily blocked to persuade me to register an email. I thought at first it was just my phone, so I switched to work wifi but then it happened again.for real? i am in one of the "bot" countries according to the source code and never had this problem.
No.166561
>>166499>Really? It's probably very easy to find out what data cloudflare supplies to website admins, but I've never tried to read their API docs.iirc it's just the geoloc data from IPs and the cloudfare ray (which iirc2 is just the unique id for the packet).
unless the ray includes packet contents, i doubt they store anything the webmaster can't store. Real question is how often the delete the logs because they certainly won't store them forever - they service 1/3rd of the entire internet.
No.166562
>>166499>, you could probably frustrate himFrustrating the autistic?
My friend, please. Reconsider your reasoning.
The hard facts is that ACK or any persistent single schizo is too low intensity to bother desuwa with it. Desuwa's status as an employee is unknown and it's likely he's not full time. No.166572
Wapchan added snow for the holidays
No.166577
>>166572No yellow snow for me to eat?
No.166585
>>16657239chan also turned red and added christmas hats
No.166589
>>166572Hikari also added snow and has an audio playing
No.166638
22chan experienced some snowfall.
It's freezing out there.
No.166640
>>166578It's secular over here, buddy
No.166643
>4chan moderation is so neglectful I can shitpost on a trusted session instead having to bother with proxies
So convenient!
No.166660
I hate these JS snow effects because they are too resource-intensive for my potato laptop and blocking the specific resources responsible for them is a pain in the ass.
No.166661
>>166660Then disable JS altogether. I'm pretty sure most boards work without it.
No.166664
>>166660they are. A lot of the webpage special effects are very poorly optimized because they move the parts of the page around, which requires recalculations of the webpage every time it moves.
No.166665
this isn't really a javascript problem btw, it's a problem of missusing the browser's HTML rendering engine to produce effects. The proper way to do this might be with the HTML5 Canvas, but I'm not sure if this allows for cursor pass through so what you have problems with is the best we've got..
No.166667
>>166666aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAA
No.166671
🚧 4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance at 11AM EST on Monday the 8th 🚧
No.166672
>>166671It's happening 🗣️🔥
🔥🔥🔥
No.166690
>>166671when is the unscheduled one gonna happen again
>>166677maybe they will actually update their stupid code now
No.166696
>>166660you know most of those boards are just using a gif background and not js for the snow, right?
https://wapchan.org/static/snowfall-dark.gif No.166712
>>166705>downtime at the most active time of the dayHigh IQ!
No.166716
>>166712It's not going to matter. Did they tell you how long 4chan will be down? Bet you didn't think about that.
No.166717
It's dead
No.166719
>>166712I don't know where this weird sarcastic sentence fragment with an exclamation point trend started, but I'm officially sick of it. It reeks of the kind of social media irony poisoning that I come to a place like this to escape.
No.166722
>>1667194chan, around 20 years ago.
No.166723
>>166717I'm glad it's over.
No.166724
>>166722I'm not a "true" oldfag, but I got on 4chan over a decade ago, and I didn't see this kind of humor pop up until later.
No.166726
>>166724What, it’s been around forever.
No.166727
>>166719Sincere exclamation marks are relatively common on kissu, although not in this thread which operates as more of an embassy. You'll have to set your standards lower for this thread I'm afraid.
No.166729
>>166727Why didn't you get triggered at least by
>>166689 or something?
No.166730
>>166729I'm telling him that this thread has a different culture than wider kissu, such as telling people that they're "triggered".
No.166731
>>166719>officiallythank you for being official
No.166739
>>166719>I don't know where this weird sarcastic sentence fragment with an exclamation point trend startedReal life, letters, literature.
No.166741
The most I expect are some small security fixes, nothing more.
No.166743
>>166741>>166742Why did I double post
No.166745
>>166719You are hallucinating things.
No.166746
>>166745Someone give him his daily dose, quick!
No.166750
What changed, other than the catalog not updating?
No.166756
>>166753Whatever it is, the catalog is definitely broken. I wonder how many "back" threads anons are posting which nobody can see now.
No.166757
>>166756probably a hilarious amount of them will fill the front pages and all the generals could die, hopefully
No.166759
>>166756It just fixed itself. 5 tenshi threads on /a/ with 0 replies.
No.166760
Wow that was quick
No.166761
>>166759And all of them got deleted. The mods don't even want us to celebrate that kuso sites return.
No.166762
>>166761It was scheduled there's no reason to make them
No.166765
I refuse to believe there are people retarded enough to want IDs on all boards. They're just malicious.
No.166767
>>166765I prefer not having them, but going to the 8 has taught me that they do keep people in check (the less insane ones at least) what makes the difference is how much the staff care about.
No.166777
>>166772Everytime I see Santania it makes me remember those doujinshi and fanart made by greatmosu, amazing.
No.166778
>>166777it makes me remember schizoid avatarfags
No.166779
>>166778Never seen one myself
No.166783
>>166780Go to dev, charts are still in but something got fucked after the hack
No.166799
Is Cloudfart dead again?
No.166807
>>166780>>166783What's the difference between post/min and activity?
No.166809
>>166780The charts broke when the hack happened and /qa/ was deleted for real, so the dev removed them in hopes of reworking the entire site one day. He sometimes posts in /bant/'s happening threads under a german flag.
No.166843
I've seen shartyfags on multiple obscure imageboards lately, even on non-eng speaking ones, even Steam has animated picture of a wojak sucking on something.
What the hell is going on?
No.166844
>>166843they became mainstream, oddly enough
No.166845
>>166844When did this happen?
No.166846
>>166845Twittertards took the meme over.
Shartyteens are just twittertards (none of them are from the /qa/ of old) to be quite frank with you family man.
No.166847
>>1668453ish years ago.
It's already getting old and going the way of meme faces.
No.166849
>>166848That's right! The addition of a blotter thingie this year means I can inject CSS into every page, so even the happenings threads gets to indulge in
kawaii spirit. There's a
[Toggle Effects] button at the top to disable (or re-enable) it.
>>166845You'd need to define what "mainstream" is since they started as template console war wojaks on /v/ in 2016 or so? Once it became its own subgenre of all-purpose templates instead of insular /v/ shitposts is when I'd say it went mainstream, which was around 2019. You could also just say they're the latest incarnation of rage comics which have been popular since 2011 or around that time.
No.166852
>>166849The recent ones used for raids.
No.166860
>>166847They're already struggling to remain relevant
No.166894
>>166849Honestly never thought rage comics were that bad despite overstaying their welcome. The problem I have with wojaks is how people started to make extremely vile/vulgar reincarnations of them and have them be used for spam and/or malicious activities.
No.166904
>>166845About a year ago, the website shocks people with how much content there is within it's sphere.
No.166924
>>166860>Struggling to remain relevantThis couldn't be further from the truth unfortunately. Cancer men are ubiquitous in normie social media now, twittards especially love using them in viral posts to win arguments against people they don't like (even left leaning people). As of recently the site itself got gelbooru in legal trouble while facing basically negative repercussions.
No.166939
>>166930The site got normiefied by the mid 2020's from what I've been told and the 4chan hack probably helped with that.
I've actually seen this conspiracy theory on another imageboard that the 4chan hacker redirected to SJ in order to attack their site as well in the process.
No.166942
>>166939from what I could infer from the person behind the attack, they totally would want to bring displeasure to both
No.166944
>>166939That's barely even a conspiracy theory. It takes someone with knowledge of 4chan's software stack and (lack of) organizational structure to come up with that hack. Anyone with that level of inside knowledge would also understand the cultural context of 4chan and its spinoffs, so they would expect the bad press to result in DDoS attacks on both the target and the perceived perpetrator. Connect the dots, and the attacker's profile is that of a troll trying to play two camps against each other for his own amusement.
No.166981
Is it me or they added a new type of captcha to 4chan? it's been giving me a brain fart
No.166988
I don't know where to ask but I'm curious about something, what's the lore behind soku threads on 4/v/?
No.166997
>>166988All I know about soku is that they moved to wapchan and that's the only place of any worth with soku discussion
No.167005
>>166997I know about it.
>>166995Well I wanted to know because I stumbled upon a post explaining how those times were dark as fuck.
No.167010
>>167009I, for one, am happy to see cancerman go the way of the ragecomic.
No.167011
>>167009is this the sharty meet up pic?
No.167012
>>167009Damn this makes me remember that I had a shirt with a giant trollface when I was a kid....
No.167015
Furries are eternal though
No.167016
That's a photoshopped image. I don't know why you guys are talking as if that's something kids are into.