No.162053
>>162051Captcha loads very slow for me and still gives connection error when trying to post
No.162054
it'll be funny if the site dies not with a bang but with a whimper
No.162055
look man i just want to see the site put out it's misery already
No.162056
I and other anons can post now, but the catalog is still frozen.
No.162057
>>162055almost happened five months ago
No.162058
>>162057it's a cockroach to still survive at this state
No.162059
>>162057the sooner it happens the sooner /jp/ can thrive
No.162060
>>162059glory to the /jp/sphere
No.162063
the catalog is fixed and the captcha works again...
No.162064
>>162062Tumblr exodus mostly affected social media websites and certain forums, but not imageboards (except 4chan)
No.162065
>>162063Nothing ever happens
No.162075
>>162073I only know him as the guy who sometimes made anniversary art and just a year ago or so learned he made those Nana comics you used to randomly encounter in all sorts of places. There's something really special about rediscovering and learning things I've first seen only by chance and didn't understand at the time.
No.162085
>>162035>Why not?from the start, it was an "evil" general. i hated it back then and hate it even more NOW.
No.162119
Does anyone have statistics on how long threads used to be up (per year, per board)?
It's probably not easy. In theory you could do it with the data from archives like desuarchive, but you'd need the entire database.
No.162120
>>162119The easiest way to collect those stats is probably to ask archive admins nicely. It's probably easy for them (just diff every thread's OP timestamp against the last reply or deletion timestamp), but there's no way archives will let a regular user issue enough queries fast enough to do that for the whole site in a reasonable timeframe.
No.162121
>>162120They could publish DB dumps. I doubt the database without images is that big.
No.162122
>>162121They could publish DB dumps.
Sure, but dumps wouldn't be very useful unless they got updated regularly, which is a lot of work.
>I doubt the database without images is that big.Even without images, a database of this size is still likely to add up to multiple GBs per snapshot, and admins might worry that it could contain undetected illegal material. As long as they only host the scraped version and respond to takedown notices, they're probably protected by safe harbor provisions, but there's no telling whether those still apply if they manually repost the whole thing without review.
No.162165
The janny applications have been running on 4chan for a week. Is it the longest the applications have been running? I never saw applications lasting a whole week. I bet nobody applied.
No.162169
>>162165Did they even improve any cybersecurity methods aside from doing the outstandingly retarded decision to kill .swf file posting despite them having no vulnerabilities for years? Hell, /sci/ can still upload .pdfs and those things are 100x worse than .swfs.
No.162173
>>162169Since there's no internal reporting there's no way to really know
No.162174
This isn't a real happening, but I don't know where else to post this. It doesn't warrant its own thread and if I post in blogs, I might get timed out again.
I tried to post "that's a man", but I got the our-system-thinks-your-format-is-spam message. Now, why oh why would "that's a man" strike a nerve oh so badly that 4mods had to label it as spam, hm?
No.162177
>>162174Probably are starting to get fed up with all the anti-trans posting that's been happening for almost a decade now.
No.162180
Once again I'm wondering how the 4chan mods do not feel like a total joke. They ban for extremely minor shit like announcing sage/report, but on the other hand, schizos post their daily off-topic cancer by the dozens and they often don't even get deleted.
Why do the mods waste their time on anything at all? It's like they have to pretend they're doing their job. Just why?
I thought they're not paid, but maybe they are?
No.162181
>>162180I hear the term "death by administration" coined alot these days, those in powerful positions willingly neglecting the upkeep and well-being of something for political purposes, but more than likely cash in the advertisement check and just make sure law enforcement doesn't come after them for not deleting cp in time. Of course hiro is the only one taking money, the mods are purely operating on ego, since, if the email dump was anything to go by, they mostly live off money from universities in Oregon and Washington.
No.162182
>>162180Reminder that the hacker was only given a 3 day ban
No.162187
God, /a/ is so fucking trash right now. It's been taken over by a blatant spammer but the mods refuse to do anything about it.
No.162188
>>162165>a weekTwo. They opened them on september 9.
>>162169> Hell, /sci/ can still upload .pdfs and those things are 100x worse than .swfs.The fuck. They disabled PDF uploads on /po/ and /tg/. Did these retards forget to disable them on /sci/?
No.162189
>>162187There have been a few recently. I assume you're talking about the censorship one(s)?
No.162191
>>162189Don't know if he meant him, but this awesomely kuso thread showcases it well:
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/282441585We had the same thread around a dozen of times, minimum.
No.162196
>>162194>After the hack, the mods no longer give a flying shit,Sure, but why do they still delete that frog?
No.162198
>>162196Frog/wojak threads are bare minimum effort to maintain /a/ but anything that is handwritten bait for the purposes of spamming they'll ignore. Maybe some Automated deletion is also involved? I was lurking in a /v/ thread around 3 years ago and I remember that a guy was dumping a ton of loli porn pics under many layers of visual filters but it was clear enough still that you could see the details. He said that for quite some time, NSFW pictures hadn't been manually deleted and instead the mods have an automated program that examines reported NSFW pics and deletes them if they're detected as such. Those filters confused the program and it seems that it worked since they were never deleted and the thread archived normally. Maybe /a/ has a similar program that also detects frog/wojak threads and posts?
No.162199
Are there any imageboards that implement perceptual hashing for uploaded images? It seems like a no-brainier for moderation. Obviously there would be false positives, but there could be a form to request a fix for a given image.
Faceberg (Meta) actually has a good repository with resources for this very purpose, especially to share phashes of known illegal material.
No.162202
>>162194Every board has turned into /v/'s shitting grounds. I honestly don't see the point in having 30 boards when they are just posting the same low quality trash. Might as well start removing boards and forcing /b/ and /bant/ only, let threads survive in the cesspool based on who gives a shit anymore.
No.162205
>>162187Once the sticky about the general thread ban actually being enforced was ignominiously unstuck, that was pretty much it for /a/.
No.162207
>>162199The automod on Lambdaplusjs uses a simple perceptual hash, but it's not part of the public source code for the board and probably won't be. Nanochan had something similar that was public and also published their database, but there were very few hashes and I think there was a bug in the hash implementation.
No.162208
>>162198Could you see the images in the thumbnails? If mods were manually scanning the thumbnails of reported images, obfuscating the thumbnails could also help someone evade moderation.
No.162209
>>162199Several of the large ones do/have and it will block posting the image in the future. Which only encourages people to do one pixel modifications to it to evade the filter. Then there is the issue of it being abused by moderation. Since if something is labeled CP via hash no one is really interested in proving it one way or another. Since looking at the material on purpose is as illegal as openly sharing it. It's also easily defeated as mentioned above.
A more advanced method of trying to filter it without relying on simple hashing is far too expensive.
It's mainly only done to appease law enforcement as well. The only reason it's so widely posted and abused is because it serves as an easy way to shut down websites and scare lurkers/posters away.
>>162208It may work for awhile but once someone sees it once it's kind of useless from that point on. I've seen this method done sometimes but usually it isn't used in the way you're thinking. Since people mainly post that type of content on public websites in an attempt to do anything but sharing it.
Most people actively seeking it out and sharing it treat it like gold and demand something in trade. Which is why most of them get caught doing it through things like telegram. The only real CP spam I've seen is the same template thread posted every night advertising one or two websites that claim to host it. All of the other times I've seen it posted the intent was to be seen and disrupt. The entire point was to frustrate moderation and people using the website. You'll see big waves of it come in at the same time the website is being mass reported to the host/registrar. So a tool just to deal with it is kind of useless as the people spamming it are being actively malicious.
No.162210
>>162209>Which only encourages people to do one pixel modifications to it to evade the filter.That only works against regular hash bans. The point of perceptual hashing is that similar-looking images will result in similar hashes, so detection can be made fuzzy: any image whose hash differs less than n bits from a banned image is treated as the same image.
There are other ways to evade perceptual hash bans (I've seen spammers add randomly generated grids of colored squares), but they require the attacker to be more skilled, and they're usually obvious from the thumbnail, so users tend to report them very quickly.
>>162199>Obviously there would be false positives, but there could be a form to request a fix for a given image.>>162209>Then there is the issue of it being abused by moderation. Since if something is labeled CP via hash no one is really interested in proving it one way or another.If the site has a public mod log of recently banned hashes and its hash implementation is open source, anyone could set up an independent hash check site where any user who has a falsely banned image can reproduce the thumbnail/hash pair and link it to appeal the ban. For extra accountability, appeals could be assigned to a random mod (excluding the mod who handed out the ban), and the system could track each mod's number/percentage of bans that get reverted and notify admins if a mod is too far out of line.
No.162212
Somebody has been shitting up /polska/ on /int/ for weeks now and 90% of posts are copypasted from the archives. I wonder if mods are even aware of this.
No.162226
>>162199It doesn't work well enough.
Because the quantity of images you end up banning create false positives if the threshold is too wide. If the threshold is too narrow you just modify the image by putting a piece of text on the image somewhere else.
Maybe someone can get a good system to do it though... I think it would be computationally expensive though. You'd obviously be running the hash on the thumbnails but it's still going to be a lot of operations..
No.162254
>>162199AI is too easy to use to modify images to just work them around not to mention already the false positive stuff. Perceptual hashing won't cut it anymore, you need to fight AI with AI on the moderation front. Unfortunately, I would say a large majority of the internet is not prepared and don't have the skills necessary to make said AI tools to fight against that kind of behavior.
No.162255
>>162254It's easy to fix: we make all websites illegal except twitter and truthsocial!
No.162265
8moe is super, super slow since at least last week. something happened?
No.162291
Has tohno-chan been down for the past few weeks or am I just IP blocked or something? It keeps giving me a "Site Not Found" error
No.162292
>>162291I think it only works with http://
No.162293
>>162292>>162291Works with me using https. Although it looks like they changed from .com to .org at some point?
No.162295
>>162293>they changed from .com to .orgNo wonder, I was still using the old domain
No.162354
Did this happen like this:
>4chan goes down
>entire source code gets leaked
>random fag finds a bug that allows moving threads without mod credentials
>4chan comes back up
>threads getting randomly moved to new boards
>it was because unknown people used the bugs
Was this ever confirmed? Did someone say they did it?
No.162356
Another excellent example of great /a/ moderation
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/282563019Around thousand posts in a janny is deleting.... posts that say "nigger"!
No.162357
>>162356Had to chuckle a couple times reading this with how Ren & Stimpy level childish it is.
No.162359
>>162356I did not know the website was still this active
No.162362
>>162359>activeIt was just a schizo thread.
No.162394
>>162356back in my NEET days when i hated the world and i was full of spite and i surfed 4chan all day, i wrote a lot of awful shit on /int/ for the funnies; conspiracy theories, mossad, making fun of france and body shaming americans. and just insulting jannies.
and the only time i got banned i wrote an innocent "nigger". just that, no images, no other words. a simple "nigger"
THREE DAYS
No.162395
>>162356I got a one day ban for reporting that thread. The OP of that thread spams barely on topic AI threads on /a/ just to dump his folder of kuso AI videos while acting like everyone who tells him to go to another board is in the wrong and posting out of context screenshots of IRC.
No.162396
>>162394Typical 4chan jannies. I smile every time someone uses nigger because I can report him and get him banned out of spite.
Makes me wonder what retards hand out these bans. Of course jannies can't ban, it has to be done by mods.
No.162397
>>162396>I smile every time someone uses nigger because I can report him and get him banned out of spite.Don't support anti-racism
No.162399
>>162397It got nothing to do with racism. I report them when they have an opinion I don't like.
No.162401
>>162395>>162400What the fuck are you guys doing? I never get warned for simple reports. Only sometimes a mod gets annoyed when I report spam as spam but the mod thinks it's totally organic ragebait.
No.162402
>>162356Man what a kuso thread
No.162403
>>162401I don't know. That's the first time I've been warned for reporting a post. I always thought it would only happen if you abused GR1.
Granted, I haven't reported anything on 4chan for a few years until that thread.
No.162452
The anti AI guy is known to be deranged. He likely spams reports and hit the autoban limit.
No.162453
>>162452sorry i don't know where this is coming from but in any case i do NOT trust you
No.162506
>>162505hey that's like the one we have, neat
No.162507
>>162505Does it get its images from safebooru?
No.162536
>>162505Is it a fork of captchouli which was broken 3 years ago (
https://github.com/bakape/captchouli/issues/42 idk if Kissu fixed this) or a new project?
No.162537
>>162505This looks really easy to krack for an ai developer
No.162539
>>162505Wapchan and 39chan have the same dev. Hikari has had it for a while now.
No.162540
>>162539Who is stronger, figamin or Verniy? Is there a way to make them fight?
No.162541
>>162540it would be very painful
No.162548
Tell me about figamin.
No.162563
>>162537I think you overestimate the number of AI devs out there who don't have more profitable things to do than spam imageboards.
No.162565
>>162540More importantly, is there a way to make them cuddle?
No.162566
>>162563It's probably completely trivial compared to breaking the noisy 4chan text captcha.
No.162567
>>162566Anything that requires training a custom model is not trivial, and anyone with the skills to do that could be making bank doing the same thing legally.
No.162569
>>162566- someone spends all that time training a model to recognize the characters so they can spam on a niche anime site
- admin just bans the ip and changes which characters are shown in two seconds
No.162570
>>162566Logic based capitchas are discriminatory
No.162571
>>162556>FARGO 1999 is an international circle of folks working in the doujinsoft tradition.>Staff: figamin, Nixo>Projects: ToHeart PSE English PatchNo one told me figamin was this cool!
No.162572
>>162569>someone spends all that time training a model to recognize the characters so they can spam on a niche anime siteImage gen models (which can work in reverse) have been trained on all relevant characters already. It might also be very easy to create something using APIs of commercial AI services.
But you're right, it's a very domain specific captcha for very small sites, so the likeliness that there's a commercial spammer or a schizo interested in spamming a board is very low.
No.162573
>>162569bit of a cope there
IP trust systems and ex-post-facto anti spam measures are the only thing that mitigates these days.
If someone wanted this site spammed, you'll end up spammed and no captcha will prevent it.
No.162574
>>162573As someone who reports spam on sight, this is incorrect as long as the site has at least one active mod on each side of the Atlantic and basic flood control.
No.162575
>>162574Flood control against a dedicated spammer shuts down posting entirely.
You seem to operate on the idea that a spammer will engage you with a bare IP.
No.162576
>>162575Imagine an imageboard that tracks the average PPH per time of day and day of the week. If the current PPH exceeds 2-3x the average, it gives all posters with a cookie younger than 48 hours and fewer than 3 posts a captcha, a 1 minute timeout between replies, and a 1 hour timeout between new threads.
Now imagine you're a dedicated spammer.
Your next move?
No.162579
>>162577And they're among the less spam-infested imageboards. Coincidence?
No.162580
>>162505kissu should do minigames captchas. good luck deploying your little local model in a danmaku game, spammer
No.162581
>>162580https://github.com/happyhavoc/th06if you can't 1cc on normal you can't post, it's that simple
No.162582
>>162580another captcha type should be procedurally generated murder mystery puzzle but it's narrated by Bernkastel so it's just procedural logic but it also trips you up on wording
No.162583
>>162580another captcha type should be chess puzzles fetched from chess dot com
No.162584
>>162580another captcha type should be a very short dungeon crawler rpg, procedurally generated, 1 floor
another captcha type should be an "escape the room" minigame, object placement is randomiser but the room is the same
No.162585
>>162580another captcha type should be the classic minesweeper but very small
another captcha type should be riichi mahjong puzzles
No.162586
>>162580another captcha type should be a kissu donate button wwww
No.162588
A schizo dedicated enough to break the captcha may also be dedicated enough to spam several times every day semi-automatically (just solving the captcha himself, everything else about posting automated).
No.162589
>>162588thank God we don't have any schizos that want to come here at all.
No.162590
>>162505My main worry about image selection captchas is that the number of possible solutions to choose from is much, much smaller than a text captcha. A program doesn't have to narrow down the possibilities so much before spamming guesses becomes effective. The captcha like this that Google made, which had the additional problem of restricting the number of correct images to a narrow range, was vulnerable to straight-up blind guessing. The main bump bot on /qa/ solved captchas this way.
No.162591
well okay kissu. if all my samefag captcha ideas were off the charts I'll just save them for when I'll host my imageboard (never)
I'm surprised I haven't ever ever seen minigame captchas yet though. it's 2025 out there good grief
No.162592
>>162591If you're willing to do the implementation work a lot of boards would probably be willing to try out your captcha and see how it fares.
>minigame captchasCould be a nice defense against someone solving the captchas manually as fast as they can, where the goal is to occupy their time while not turning off the regular user.
No.162593
>>162548He's the guy who owns Wapchan and co-owns 39chan. Not sure if he runs any other imageboards.
No.162594
>>162589send of photo of your pener to continue
No.162617
>>162616By the way... How does Kissu handle the images? Does it re-encode them before posting?
No.162618
>>162616>I deal with the Feds on a daily basisYes we know. That's why they get sent to random anon's houses that did nothing wrong while you let them flood the site with cheese pizza.
I hope I live to see someone murder this faggot.
No.162619
>>162618He casually admits the 4chan administration works with the government...
On top of that they have the gall to post an epic rebel themed image for the anniversary...
No.162621
>>162620I think I like the old one better, though this one still looks nice as well. Reminds me a little of Burning Board 1 / 2 forums that played around with the colors.
No.162622
>>162616I'm always amazed how easy it is both to get harmless people v& for bullshit reasons (like possessing lolicon drawings even though it's practically legal), and how hard it is for hardcore criminals not to get v& (like these CP spammers). Like, don't 99% of all burgers think CP is a crime worth the death penalty? Then shit like this happens.
No.162623
>>162619Any site in the US requires that. Maybe Trump will fix this?
No.162624
>>162622Pro tip: The ones spamming the CP are the same ones getting paid millions of dollars to "police" it.
No.162633
>>162620a lot more forum like... interesting
No.162638
>>162576set my bots to wait out the timer and spend a couple hours training my AI.
No.162639
>>162622I janny several altchans and the biggest CP spammers have forgotten to turn off their VPNs before. If we're talking about the "free pedo porn" spammers that target Crystal Cafe and other altchans, it's a guy in Omsk and his friend in the same city. They're basically running a scam operation, spamming CP on altchans to get retarded pedophiles to install their malware. I've reported them to international law enforcement many times, but, unfortunately, they are Russian and Russian law enforcement is utterly worthless, so they are unlikely to face justice so long as Russia remains a lawless hellhole.
No.162642
>>162639if they did bare ips, check out osint sites and see if you can get to them.
No.162643
>>162640Makes me wonder if Japanese Vocaloid discussion is so terrible that he has to resort to Western alternatives, though maybe it's just a gaijin's curiosity for overseas opinions.
I was never interested in the genre and only consumed the most popular works that were impossible to miss + collaborative works from producers that were also active in other communities on NND, but still, I always had the impression Vocaloid died a similar death as otoMADs around a decade ago or so, now only feeling like a ghost of its former self. Not trying to be a dick and obviously I'm not part of the com, just got this odd feeling I can't explain.
No.162644
>>162643He said "I like it here—it feels nostalgic." in response to an anon who said its cool that he still posts. I think curiosity definitely plays a part but maybe the Japanese see 2ch/5ch and Futaba the same way people on altchans see modern 4chan. After all, the Japanese have their own Futaba/2ch offshoot sites like open2ch.
No.162645
>>162644That's interesting, I wasn't aware of open2ch.
I bet 39 is proud, it's certainly really cool to have someone like him visit your club.
No.162646
>>162643I feel like Vocaloid is at its peak right now in terms of quality, but that's just my opinion.
No.162648
>>162646Would you mind sharing one or some of your top picks?
Gonna start saging here because we're off-topic and I'm too inexperienced with the subject matter to make a dedicated thread, but I'm interested in the conversation.
I think the reason I have that lackluster impression is because I remember the super popular ones like Miku Miku ni shite ageru, Popipo, the Ievan Polkka cover and so on as having been instant hits that got adapted almost immediately in the MAD part of NND, which was the only part I religiously kept up to date with. I assume I'm just fooled by the decline of the MAD community making it look like Vocaloid isn't as big anymore, clearly that isn't true if I look at the insane amount of views newer productions like King or God-ish still get on NND, it just feels more isolated to its own community now. I could see past producers growing up and going professional / making less references to adjacent hobbies playing a part in this too, maybe the biggest one.
God-ish and King also are the only major ones post-2010 that I can name and I don't even like them too too much, though of course they're good tracks.
No.162651
>>162646>>162648Nostalgiafags on 4/jp/ will disagree with you but yes Vocaloid is doing better than a decade ago. Its been growing in popularity since the very late 2010's with the release of Synthesizer V and that eventually culminated in 2020 with the release of Project Sekai (which despite being extremely divisive among old fans did boost Vocaloid's popularity a lot, especially among Gen Alpha and the younger side of Gen Z).
Some old producers like Hachi and Ryo have left years ago and do their own thing now. Others like DECO*27 and PinocchioP are still around. Quite a few newbies dominate the scene now
(a personal favorite of mine is Iyowa) and Western Vocaloid is more prominent than it was years ago (Jamie Paige, whether you love them or hate them, is one of the biggest names right now). There's also a shared sentiment among old fans that post-Mesmerizer, a lot of new Vocaloid songs are made with fast BPMs and flashy music videos in order to go viral. I won't go into much detail there but you can probably read about it on 39, it's a bit of a rabbit hole.
No.162653
>>162616when kimmo alm was doing the same bit moot made a global announcement, a sticky and recommendations on how to DDOS anontalk.
It did not kill the site, but it set the beginning of the end for alm.
No.162654
I liked loids better when they sounded robotic. Teto's old voice will always be the best in my opinion.
No.162655
>>162651Thank you for the info, it's nice to be able to catch up with things like this. I did hear about Synth V at the very least. I think UTAU got / is in the process of getting replaced as well? I saw there's an alternative version of it now made by somebody else, with a DAW-like interface and lots of QoL changes, though I don't know about the general consensus on it. I also noticed Vocaloid as a whole getting much more popular in the West, which is actually part of the reason it makes me uncomfortable nowadays, primarily because it seems that a not insignificant part of the Western community now consists of a certain type that I personally just can't stand. I really wish I didn't care so much, but that's an entirely different topic.
Anons from 39 all seemed extremely nice so far though.
No.162656
>>162505I find this implementation really annoying, besides that it doesn't seem to play nicely with default adblocking lists or Firefox tracking protection. Is it sourcing from Danbooru or similar? If so, it's even more trivial to crack than is being letting on.
Pic attached is what happened to me the first time I saw this. Top left was the missing.
No.162657
>>162655That's because 39chan hates them lol. From what I've seen they don't care where you come from or if you have never used an imageboard before but if you're one of those people they'll just tell you to fuck off.
No.162658
>>162656I don't see what the issue is, considering I'm on Firefox with ublock origin + strict tracking protection and I've had no issues using the captcha, though if you use noscript that will break the captcha since it's built with JavaScript. Also, it sources images from safebooru and while some of them are difficult just because of the tags (the top left is rin wearing kaito's shawl so that's probably why it's tagged as such) you can just load a new captcha.
No.162659
>>162658It seems to have been fixed/corrected itself from when I first took that, but initially it would just hang on "Loading character challenge" or whatever unless I turned off tracking protection. I get why the tagging includes fuzzy matches like that Rin, I just find it to be equally tiresome as trying to identify stop signs with Google.
No.162660
>>162651>post-MesmerizerMesmerizer is so well-made I wonder if it was lightning in a bottle or intentionally engineered.
No.162662
>>162657Genuinely extremely relieved to hear, I shall lurk from time to time and see if I might pick up a new hobby.
No.162663
>>162657Fun fact, it was made by /jp/s who were fed up with /jp/
No.162664
>>162616I ran into him on X about a week ago entirely by accident and had a bit of a wtf moment.
No.162667
>>162663Wouldn't that make it the third time it has happened? First with Bunbunmaru and then Tohno?
No.162668
>>162639send their IPs to UA glowies
No.162669
>>162660with all due respect, you sound like you don't mindlessly watch through tons of modern indie producer Japanese MVs on youtube recommendations at 2 AM
Mesmerizer is good but not that good. subtle messaging is way easier to implement than to deconstruct, deconstruction involves effort, effort demands recognition, recognition is gained by mass signaling, no wonder it took off if you get what I mean
No.162670
>>162616I've wondered how the archives are dealing with this if they are able to at all.
No.162673
>>162671Interesting, sounds very similar to the situation in the West then. User demographics and styles shifting have always been the biggest problem and people usually attribute it to smartphones having made the internet more accessible, though I personally think we would be in this mess even without smartphones.
No.162674
>>162673Most of the spam issues I've seen on imageboards can be attributed to proxies and datacenters, not phone posters. I think it's easy to blame phone posters because it's a low effort way to cirvument IP bans, but the reality is that proxies are a lot easier to cycle out for anything sustained.
No.162675
>>162674I don't really see people blaming smart phones for spam. Phone posters are often seen as clueless, impulsive, and lazy, but usually not actively malicious.
No.162676
>>162674People were herded into the large social networks. As I've stated multiple times since I was warning everyone back in the early 2000s but no one listened because google was paying them $10k a month to sell out their users.
No.162690
>>162673>>162674communication technology dictates internet discourse
domintant smarthphone don't encourage well thought out posts. it's literally harder to type on then than on a keyboard.
No.162708
Hikari3 returning error 500 whenever I attempt to click on threads or reply to them.
No.162715
>>162708works on my machine
No.162723
spellcard captcha when?
No.162736
Is there a script or regex or something that I can give otamin and tshit to stop the cheese pizza spam over there? Both of them seem to be completely incompetent at stopping it.
No.162737
Theoretical happening: The new captcha will save 4taba when figamin buys it off Verniy for a piece of used gum and bellybutton lint.
No.162740
>>162616>I deal with feds on a daily basisYeah i bet he does lolz
No.162743
>>162741Actually scratch strict dueling, just do something group-like like a battle royale to minimize bottlenecks for real posters
If there are no other visitors, you'll have to play against bots of course
This is the future of imageboards here. First one to commit to this would get an interactive metadiscussion-generat
ing anchor of culture. We'll be all looking back to the history leading up to that point, scratching our heads, and asking ourselves "wow, how come imageboards were so underdeveloped and unrealized before?"
No.162744
Sorry if that was offtopic, it's just a hyperstition of an imageboard happening. This happening already occured in the future, we are just moving towards it. It will be very massive.
No.162746
>>162505Aaand it didn't work. I've just seen CP spam on both Wap and Hikari. 39chan doesn't seem to get it often, if at all.
No.162748
>>162746Sorry, that was just me trying to make conversation with people.
No.162767
>>162740More importantly: who tops?
No.162769
>>162746I'm more surprised they thought it would work against this particular spam ring. Wasn't it already established that they solve the captchas manually? It probably only takes them a few extra seconds to paste the character's name into an image search engine.
Maybe low trust IPs should get a harder version: "Here's three pics. Who's this character? Type your answer below."
No.162784
>>162769There are so many reasons why rolling your own CAPTCHA is a horrible idea. Classification CAPTCHAs like this especially are dead, so dead that you don't even need to pay someone to solve them for you. It is piss easy to throw a tagger like >>162720 at it and get character tags. All of the popular art models were trained on Danbooru/Gelbooru metadata and there's no outsmarting that.
No.162786
>>162784you can kinda do it but you have to put a lot of effort into it. And maybe even then it doesn't pay off
>>>/captcha/What I tried to do on kissu's captcha was create a lot of character overlap, so that only some details give it away, but otherwise it just looks like "silver_hair girl"
No.162787
https://kissu.moe/captcha
No.162789
>>162788This captcha would be very difficult for the average user, and the spammers just probably brute force it anyways. I would assume a captcha where you have to type the name would be a lot more effective.
No.162790
>>162789yeah, but either way. Spam as a countermeasure for illegal content isn't effective because it just has to get posted once for there to be a problem.
These captchas work well for mass spam
No.162792
>>162789>This captcha would be very difficult for the average userIf you had to do it by memory, sure. All you really have to do though is google the character and then it's easy enough.
No.162793
>>162792What? AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT BY MEMORY ALL ALONG!!
No.162794
If I had to google the answer to a captcha I just wouldn't even post to begin with
No.162800
Any time I had to input captcha on kissu I just refreshed and it went away.
No.162801
>>162792Combine this with my own ultimate strategy.
If you get it wrong, try again with the next captcha
No.162805
My browser doesn't remember sage as saved form value in the 4chan option field. Is this just firefox being trash, or something more nefarious?
No.162823
i SAW the deleted post but i forgot what it said
No.162824
>>162823still counts as getting him
No.162826
Someone is slow spamming threads like
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/282780462Mods seem to be hilariously helpless.
No.162833
>>162832Good luck, this is probably objectively an improvement.
No.162864
>>162862How am I supposed to know what that character is? I don't know anything about touhou other than that it has an annoying fanbase (who do not even play the games themselves).
No.162865
>>162864Could just drag the image into any search engine and go from there...
No.162866
>>162864...what does pocky from rocky and pocky have to do with touhou?
No.162867
>>162864touwhomst? that's Inuyasha player 2 recolor
No.162869
>>162864How do you not recognize Nakoruru?
No.162874
>>162864Someone's never played buster bros
No.162882
>>162862>>162864Looks like it has been successful.
No.162883
>>162882It needs to be able to atomize anyone who gets it wrong twice in a row.
No.162886
On 4chan, your report maximum gets decreased by the number of reported posts that got deleted.
No.162888
4chan/g/ getting spammed with new threads of the beard guy right now. Oh well, at least it's not CP images this time.
No.162889
>>162888I only see cunny spam. (Actual rabbits, something about he Hare programming language, which has a rabbit as logo.)
No.162891
>>162890and nothing of value got slid away
the spammer should have made different edits of the same guy to spam tho. now that would have been funny instead of a temporary nuisance
No.162892
>>162890I'm not /g/, what's the meaning of beard guy?
No.162893
>>162892i think it's just some soylent techbro archetype looking guy
because i've seen him being posted on other boards as an insult
No.162894
>>162892It's one of the Gnome developers that asks
>Use case?Every time they take away another feature and people complain.
No.162895
>>162892An important software developer who's working on GTK and Gnome for Red Hat. that is basically one of the possible user interfaces you see on Linux. He is known for being a cranky asshole who doesn't fix his garbage and who rejects all feature requests.
No.162898
>>162895>An important software developerHeh
No.162900
>>162895He is doing a good job helping people switch off of gnome
No.162902
>>162898OK, replace "important" with "visible". I don't know what exactly he does. Perhaps his job is being an annoyance on thew bug tracker?
No.162904
>>162900Heh. Gnome 3 had that effect on me. I spent years alternating XFCE, LXDE and MATE, but I never went back to gnome.
No.162939
>>162789>would be very difficult for the average userYou mean normies
No.162942
Kissu was down for a bit
No.162944
>>162942The
Majestic 12 did this
No.162990
I've managed to leave 4chan for a week now. Did I miss anything worth a damn?
No.162991
>>162990Probably no because I don't post there anymore
No.162993
>>162992Quick rundown on AA, please.
No.162996
>>162992Would make a cool forum
No.162997
>>162992What's their twelve-step program?
No.162998
>>1629971. Do not post on 4canc.
2. Do NOT post on 4canc.
3. We are Anonymous
4. Anonymous is recovering
No.162999
>>162998It's missing 8 steps
No.163000
>>162999We forgot. Forgive us.
No.163001
Expect us to not post on 4chan.
No.163003
Kissu is not a place to talk about doxing.
No.163004
>>163003you are located on planet earth!
No.163018
>>163016Keep in mind that over the years new vocal synths like Cevio and Voisona have been popping up so if you combined those you'd probably reach the same peak as in the early 2010's.
Also on a different note it's quite fascinating to me how Vocaloid continues to be a female dominated hobby to the point where even on an imageboard like 39chan guys are a minority.
If you ask there they'll just tell you that they're all naked buff men though. No.163019
>>163016>>163018That chart genuinely surprises me. Does Trends allow for a Worldwide view, do the results change in any meaningful way for "Miku Hatsune" and "Teto"?
Either way, I've been consuming NND-related media from 2007 to around 2014 when I gave up on it for the most part and I haven't seen even just half as much random images and discussions related to Vocaloid / UTAU during that time than I do now, outside of their communities. Miku and Teto both seem to be somewhat mainstays in the majority of 2D-related discussion anywhere nowadays, whereas I would be able to count on one hand the amount of times I saw a stray Teto pop up on 4chan or YT outside of NND reuploads or that Gaia-like Western community that you could see come up around 2010 or so. Miku was more prominent, but didn't strike me as any more popular than JoJo pre David Productions and felt more like a random booru image an Anon wanted to attach to his post.
No.163020
>>163019There are graphs for worldwide, and they are largely the same. If anything, they show slightly larger decline. The graph for Miku also shows a decline, albeit slightly smaller (picrel). Though this is probably just due to people searching for Miku in a general context. If you zoom out fully, it seems to grow significantly in 2025 - however if you zoom in, you realize this is just because of a very large spike at the start of 2025.
Teto is the only exception, with her popularity spiking over the last year.
No.163037
>>163022>changing "libtard" to "sexy femboy".kek, I wish there were more of these in 4cute
No.163038
>>163022>changing "libtard" to "sexy femboy"Which is ironic because under my experience the hottest femboys are or at least pretend to be /pol/tards.
No.163039
>>163038average /pol/ user is a transx latinx woman
No.163045
>>163039Nope, all the russian trolls and bots warp the stats.
No.163046
>>163045Ironically Slavs make the second best femboys/traps/shemales, only behind east Asians.
No.163048
>>163046Can't exclude that all these russian state trolls wear programmer socks while posting their propaganda.
No.163137
>>162786The main issue is we're running out of things you can use to test against cheap machine learning that is easy for humans but still is hard for machines. For now, I think doing challenges based on
https://arcprize.org/ is good enough, since it takes around 10 cents to crack with an LLM to get a 50% pass rate if you base it on the challenges with ARC-AGI 1. But they are getting smarter and it didn't even take a year from when ARC-AGI 1 released until now for LLMs to get 80% pass rate on it even if it is expensive. And that doesn't solve people just paying on MTurk even if they actually want to hurt you even if it would be more expensive in the end. There is enough volume there someone can hurt you. You're just raising the threshold of the price needed to do that.
No.163153
>>163137What would stop someone from just enumerating all the puzzles you implemented and writing simple code to recognize and solve each one? You don't need AI for that.
No.163154
I think the concept of a captcha wqs flawed from the get go.
All it can ever be is just a deterrent for simple scripts.
No.163155
>>163153The puzzles provided by ARC-AGI isn't constrained to the dataset provided but yes, you would need to either hand design it or write code to generate valid variants to verify, but those aren't things that traditional captchas haven't needed to also do or design from the ground up. The main issue is that you would need to roll your own and it is much harder than an anime captcha to design. Sorry if I made it seem like it would've been easy.
No.163179
4chan posting down.
No.163180
>>163179Up again after 5 minutes or so.
No.163183
>>163155The biggest issue isn't that it's too difficult to code. It's that it would not stop bots. You're assuming that what is difficult for AI would be difficult to automate. An attacker would not use AI to solve the puzzles. Instead he would figure out all the types of puzzles you had programmed, solve each one manually, which he only needs to do once for each type, and then let his spambot go to work. The more types of puzzles you introduce to make this harder, the more work you have to do. In the end, you have to do more work than the attacker. It's no better than the text riddle captchas you see on some sites, which are less work to implement.
No.163194
>>163183Anon, bots can use websites now.
No.163202
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512
>>163194Maybe we can implement harder CAPTCHAs or just sign our posts every time with GPG?
This post is a demonstration of that.
You can generate a GPG key with the following command
gpg --generate-key
And enter whatever you like as your personal details. This post will be signed with
a throwaway GPG key for demonstration purposes.
Now that you have your own GPG key, you can create a text file named post.txt, enter
whatever you want to post, and then run
gpg --clearsign post.txt
Which will generate a cryptographically signed post.txt.asc. This post is digitally
signed exactly like that with the public key I provide below:
- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
mDMEaOwlshYJKwYBBAHaRw
8BAQdAPbNYW7yDhjU/fG5vl3YREt+Ixxx5pQiuTa
vJ
5baX8vm0G25vYm9keSA8bm
9ib2R5QG5vd2hlcmUuY29t
PoiWBBMWCgA+FiEEIjO4
yYTuv550cT0Z2UD1t/flECMFAmjsJbICGwMFCQWj
moAFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFg
ID
AQACHgECF4AACgkQ2UD1t/flECNUXAEArGcyBBWdS7k2
GXlGBwTPsP4INnSrffWb
EyMVI8gKsBwA+wVCvZBun7
B0WIdYhSbiZRYx/MTUc2tPe3ULiigvnc0OuDg
EaOwl
shIKKwYBBAGXVQEFAQEHQH
DDt1gRvqiqUuwz6nKENiKQ
caMvGkVh3wbPVfIEB0Ud
AwEIB4h+BBgWCgAmFiEEIj
O4yYTuv550cT0Z2UD1t/flECMFAmjsJbICGwwFCQWj
moAACgkQ2UD1t/flECOgWwD/bCzQSGQF9joazhYe65fAzY
N5U6LpN0Q3+8oXlr9j
mW0BAMojq80x3H6Gj3TDg/VpwFoVreHqI2GD2+yP3KO4
PDcM
=Zny6
- -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
You can copy paste that public key block into a text file named public_key.txt and
then run
gpg --import public_key.txt
This will import my public key into your GPG keychain. After that you can copy paste
this entire post into a text file post.txt and then run
gpg --verify post.txt
To verify that this post was digitally signed by me. If everyone did this, website
administrators could add trusted GPG keys to the website's keychain and let everyone
verify each other.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iHUEARYKAB0WIQQiM7jJhO
6/nnRxPRnZQPW39+UQIwUCaO
wqrgAKCRDZQPW39+UQ
Iy+gAP0awqxB5SrQc2BZwg
t9TJhM9hztf+U9wz+kRzWo
6JFPegEAyhsXBTuEPdZB
b4VLdR4kHMcat5KdrDSDdd
PydP1fKAA=
=9piV
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
No.163203
Isn't that an account with extra steps
No.163204
>>163203It's more like an extra secure tripcode that can be used for more than just posting, with more steps and obnoxious-looking metadata (see above).
The main advantage is that the public/private split of GPG keys makes it impossible for a hypothetical malicious admin to intercept your "tripcode" to impersonate you. (But if you think a site's admins might be compromised, why even post there? They could still delete your posts, shadowban you, etc.)
The downside is that it requires posters to either manually perform extra steps outside their browser for every post or trust some kind of extension to manage their private key without exposing it through infinitely complex DOM fuckery.
And more importantly, it requires everyone involved to understand the difference between public and private keys. If you've ever tried to explain that in non-technical terms, you'll know how high of a barrier that is to most people - even to the relatively technical userbase of most imageboards.
No.163227
Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for pretending UK's Online Safety Act doesn't exist
https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/13/4chan_ofcom_fine/>The fine could rise by a further £6,000 – £100 per day for a maximum 60 days – if it continues to ignore its duties to comply with the regulator's request for information regarding two separate matters. No.163228
>>163227Hopefully 4canc starts selling user data and will sell itself to china to afford this
No.163231
>>163228I thought 4cutie is propierty of the federal goverment. So probably they sell user data to the american surveillance state, but maybe they should diversify income selling to the communist chinese too.
No.163232
>>163228Afoord what? Who’s going to make them pay?
No.163234
>>163227Where are they sending the fine? Hiro's email inbox? 4chan has no infrastructure in the UK. They can pound sand. If they want to do something about 4chan they're going to have to either force UK ISPs to DNS block 4chan or they're going to have to go after Cloudflare for providing CDN services to 4chan.
No.163235
>>163234>have to either force UK ISPsThe OSA enables Ofcom to pursue that for this case eventually and ISPs there already have the architecture to do it with copyright blocks. It's likely this'll be the result if they continue to not comply, but it'd be years to reach an ultimatum. It's to 4chan's benefit to stall doing nothing because bigger fish like Wikipedia have a better chance of making people in power realize how fucked OSA enforcement is.
No.163260
>>163228>starts selling user dataWell with hiro's reputation and the fact that 4chan has been federal property since the mid 2010s I would say that's already been done.
No.163262
Another day, another moment I ask myself whether the mods don't feel fucking stupid when they IP wipe someone, and he's back almost immediately without facing any consequences whatsoever.
Of course the mods are not doing their job, but even so you'd expect they'd power trip effectively, instead of looking like impotent retards with no power at all.
No.163266
I never got banned throughout my 15 years on imageboards unless I wanted to be blessed with a janny mandated vacation.
No.163267
>>163266Would you call yourself emotionally intelligent or do just have a good understanding of how to stay out of trouble?
No.163269
>>163267Calling myself intelligent would be pretentious but I do have a good sense of what belongs on a board and what does not. Jannies have a vested interest in keeping their boards clean and sometimes in the shape that they want. As long as you respect that and don't distrupt the conversation or post nonsense they won't delete your posts.
No.163271
>>163266If you don't get banned for nothing, then you just didn't make enough post for the probabilities to work out.
No.163273
>>163266Not enough time has passed in the universe for cosmic radiation to ban you without any mod intervention.
No.163312
8kun's domain appears to be in clientHold.
No.163326
>>163312I'm surprised that site was still up in the first place. I always assumed it became completely irrelevant after it stopped being "8chan".
No.163327
>>163326it's dead outside the Q board
No.163328
>>163183Been busy so didn't respond for a couple of days. But that's not how ARC-AGI or the puzzles I proposed work at all. You can not automate solving these puzzles with any sort of bot with one singular example from a human manually solving "each type", whatever that means. To solve an example like this picture, you actually need logic deduction and planning, which you can not code yourself or get an AI to do for all the variations of this.
It's meant to be a puzzle that is hard for robots of any kind, programmed or AI trained, and easy for humans. That is the entire point of captcha existing which is why I proposed it. The best scores involve merging an LLM with a program that can basically do something with the input to let it mess around and stumble upon a solution. I don't see your average spammer having the knowhow to implement cutting edge research to solve these types of captchas should they exist in the first place but the same goes for whoever needs to implement this type of system into a captcha so you can't save solutions and reuse. Again, it would still devolve into a system of using prior solutions seen + MTurk to actually get around it but that is massively more time wasting and more expensive to shit up forums than what is currently happening.
No.163335
File:8.jpg (415.51 KB,1280x1450)
>>163312Jim re-rebranded the site to 8chan and moved to the old 8ch.net domain a while ago. He lazily changed the logo and most mentions of 8kun in the code but forgot to change the header, which still says 8kun.
No.163336
>>163335But this is just a rebranding of blacked.gov not 8chan.
No.163346
>>163328>To solve an example like this picture, you actually need logic deduction and planning, which you can not code yourselfThat puzzle is trivial to automate. The part that is hard for a machine, which ARC-AGI is testing the AI's ability to do, is recognizing in the first place that the goal is to fit all those shapes into a rectangle. The attacker just needs to write a subroutine that tests all possible ways of fitting the shapes into the rectangle. There's a potential for combinatorial explosion here, but a simple depth-first search with the largest shape inserted first would find the solutions in those two examples very quickly. If I were the attacker, I would have the program give up and ask for a different captcha after some large number of tries, which would likely be good enough to solve most cases. If I wanted to do better, I would not need cutting-edge research, just basic old-fashioned search algorithms.
>with one singular example from a human manually solving "each type"Since you seem to have misunderstood my intent, let me explain this more clearly. Your proposed captcha would feature several types of puzzles, each of which you would need to write code to implement. The attacker manually finds out all the types of puzzles you have, then writes a simple program to solve each type. It's a lot of work, but it's not more work for the attacker than it is for you.
No.163354
>>163353>all that vaxx shitposting stays up>a new post saying that cp should be legalized got instantly deletedFree speech website!
No.163356
>>163354It's unironically better to be caught with illicit plutonium than cp.
No.163357
>>163353Japs die so young for no reason
No.163359
>>163353thought it was the other itagaki and wondered why the thread would be on /v/
No.163360
>>163353Smoker
Deserved it
No.163364
>>163353They don't make them like oatmeal cookie anymore, or at least they don't let them make video games.
No.163372
>>163364Can't wait for the crash and then the creatives to rise from the ashes.
No.163398
>>163392Anything interesting?
Also is it supposed to be kept confidential?
No.163399
Pretty funny how the upper 4chan staff goes all like LE FREESPEECH while the tiniest dumb shit can get you banned for 3 days.
Absolutely retarded hypocrites.
No.163400
>>163398It's procedural stuff mostly, it's not actually a lot to skim. It's just noticable that you're seeing 4chan's lawyers make noise about this publicly. It's a fairly stark difference to how tight-lipped their legal arm typically is when involved with things like the Buffalo shooting.
>Also is it supposed to be kept confidential?Ofcom was always going to publish the confirmation decision (
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-content/investigation-into-4chan-and-its-compliance-with-duties-to-protect-its-users-from-illegal-content), they're just getting out ahead of publsihing it:
>A non-confidential version of the Confirmation Decision will be published shortly. No.163402
>>163392shockingly spunky for a lawyer
No.163408
>>163392>I represent 4chanmy condolences
No.163416
>>163392In the email starting with FWD: Provisional Decision, they didn't properly censor grapeape@4chan.org from the quoted email at the bottom. You can hover your mouse over the black box to see it. I wonder what he said.
No.163417
Why do people still use 4chan? I can't understand.
No.163418
>>163417Stockholm syndrome
No.163421
>>163417Speed is a quality of its own.
Most people these days spend their time scrolling websites designed to scroll infinitely so they never go a full 5 seconds with their own thoughts. 4chan provides a similar level of stimulation where you will always see a new post. It doesn't have to be amazing, it just needs to be there and new.
No.163423
>>163417Only place with like-minded people. Who cares about anime x or anime y? Only 4chan /a/ has more posts than once a month about it.
No.163425
>>163417It's the only imageboard with active shota and cute boy threads.
No.163426
>>163423You mean a specific anime you're interested in? Have you tried posting about it here to get people hooked?
The Koupen thread itself is pretty quiet, but overall I think Project Kissupen has been fairly successful.
No.163427
>>163426>Have you tried posting about it here I had multiple tabs with kissu threads open. Recently I closed them all but two, because I noticed that the last reply in each thread was months ago, even a year ago in one thread. Also this doesn't even try to be an anime themed chan.
No.163428
when everything being 2D isn't enough
No.163429
>>1634214chan is not good since a long time ago, there is a reason people moved to 8chan in first place. Nowadays is just redditors larping as imageboard users.
No.163434
>>163425It's downright bizarre that shota threads are allowed to live on /v/ for so long.
8chan.moe boards for these No.163436
File:cm.png (4.65 MB,2420x2594)
>>163434>It's downright bizarre that shota threads are allowed to live on /v/ for so long.I was talking about /cm/ tho. Not only the shota general dominates the board with a more radical difference in activity with the rest of the board than kpop threads on /mu/, but many other threads are dedicated to shota characters or are full of shota art.
As for /v/, I rarely see shota threads there nowadays (maybe they simply are made when I'm not browsing the site), but think these threads often are left up because they are relatively tame compared to other "subtle" image dump threads and specially the currently radioactive loli threads.
No.163440
>>163417I feel terrible seeing decent, effortful posts drowned out by post-hack diarrhea. But it's getting harder to encourage discussion while trying to ignore the vermin tracking shit around you.
I'm looking at you 4/jp/.
No.163453
>>162616He truly is a retard and will never be as based as moot when he did
>>162653 No.163473
>>163440>4/jpIt's a completely lost cause, that board should just be fucking deleted.
No.163478
>>163440Kissu, wap and hikari have completely taken over any need for 4/jp/.
We need to do some big cross site event for the holidays...
No.163479
>>163478A secret santa event for Wakarissu!
No.163487
>>163478>>163479Tabanons getting nothing as per usual, maybe a nail bomb and dog poo in our mailbox if we're lucky..
No.163501
>>163479this is actually a super good idea
hmm...
No.163503
>>163487I'll send you a merry christmas card
No.163504
>>163501Have you just said that sending mail bombs would be a super good idea?
Enjoy the FBI breaking into your house.
No.163505
>>163501The question is in what ways something like this could be arranged, since physical gifts are out of the question and not everyone feels confident enough to be creative. Perhaps some kind of targeted image sharing where Anons share characters or other things they like, then get gifted a piece of related content? To make it cross-site, a rule could be that you can't get paired with Anons from your home site.
It's not much, but the best idea that I personally can come up with.
>>163503Thank you...
No.163512
>>163507They still are. I've been participating since 2020, also participated in the /k/ version from 2018-2023.
No.163513
anybody know why the post office is down?
No.163516
>>163484Don't take my word for it, but I heard they only intervene for vtumor related shitposting nowadays.
>/jp/huIs is a colony, or did /v/ actually purge those stealth "Touhou" threads?
No.163517
>>163515Don't know about the rest but hololive threads still exist there
Not sure why they decided to stay when both /vt/ and Holotower exist
No.163530
>>163528Personally, I find this very concerning and would rather deal with just the sharty than to attract Twitter users. I hope fig moderates with an iron fist.
No.163531
>>163528holy shit lol if you needed more proof that these guys found imageboards around 2016
No.163532
>>163530I welcome the new blood coming into the /jp/sphere, provided they actually respect site culture. We can't keep bleeding 4chan for exiles forever.
No.163535
Wasn't moot a minor at the time? Suspicious...
No.163536
>>163534just bit this shabtai
No.163539
>>163532The ones who respect site culture from twatter are an extreme minority.
No.163542
>>163538The one with 20-30 users?
No.163545
>>163532>We can't keep bleeding 4chan for exiles foreverThat's a really good way to put it and I agree with you, too, it's just that certain sites have me worried more than others. I do love new people obviously trying to be careful and doing their best to make thoughtful posts, it's cute and commendable.
No.163546
>>163528>>163544Cheers, figamin. To spam well defended against.
Hope this can be a permanent boost to activity. Maybe despite the hesitations, it's a necessity to try and break into the wider world like that if you want to get anywhere.
No.163547
>publicity by sharty raid
How the fuck is that supposed to be a good thing?
No.163548
>>163528It's quite funny how irrelevant they're starting to become
No.163549
>>163547Looking at the replies, it's more people mystified by the captcha themselves or cheering on figamin for having bested the teens with an extremely popular character. Not really going viral amongst the feelscancer fags themselves. And looking at the people taking the extra step to check out Wapchan itself, they're quite earnest.
No.163552
>>163547because the post shows that sharty posters know nothing about basic imageboard culture. it's making fun of them because the raid was a total flop
No.163553
>>163534>>163535Moot was in time magazine just two years before this.
Epstein seemed to have a thing for wanting to meet with all sorts of novelty famous people.
I doubt much came of it considering how principled of a person Moot is.
No.163554
>>163547Their raids are no longer the threat they were years ago, just an annoyance that can easily be taken care of. Regex and an active mod team will do the trick.
No.163555
>>163547if you haven't been keeping track this is like the fourth or fifth time that the sharty tried to raid wapchan and every single time they try to spam for like 10 mins before the jannies wake up, ban everyone and nuke all the offending posts.
No.163558
>>162539>>16259339chan is owned by a guy called moth not figamin. He was an admin on it for a while though.
No.163562
>>163558i don't use the site, i just lurk. but i respect how the moth guy doesn't seem to interact with the chanosphere that much outside his own site. he just pops in to say something and then leaves for months.
No.163563
>>163417I genuinely still use it purely because of /vst/, /xs/ (I do martial arts), /vrpg/ (RPG Maker general even if it's gone full schizo lately), /ic/ and other niche smaller boards.
Otherwise it's complete fucking garbage.
The day the regulars from those places migrate to a better place is the day I truly leave 4chan. But for now, I am kinda stuck with that, but I've thankfully already left the shithole that is /v/ for good at least.
No.163565
>>163563>I do martial artsplease look at
>>>/jp/102876 if you can
No.163566
>>163562In general, the fandom-oriented imageboards like 39chan, Holotower, Heolkek, etc tend to be pretty detached from the other altchans
No.163572
>>163555>an everyone and nuke all the offending posts.Isn't that how sharty raids always end?
No.163581
>>163578This is worse than child abuse
No.163613
>>163528some sharty skid is having a melty on twitter and is just posting the html source (lol) of the captcha
yes, he hit inspect element on the API and just put it up on a pastebin
No.163633
>>163578This video is really really sad
No.163634
>>163578Raids/spamming are extremely old imageboard culture though.
No.163635
>>163634Half of 4chan's existence is owed to a fundamental break with Something Awful over "catchphrases" or what would now be known as internet memes. SA wanted to stamp them out as "the death of humor" while obviously 4chan evolved in the entirely opposite direction.
The other half of course is porn.
No.163644
>>163417Its shit but its OUR shit. Its interesting to surf the boards to get glimpses into different worlds and experiences.
No.163645
>>163634Raids have always been retarded and no way to build a lasting community, moot was smart to eventually recognize such. We can herald specific examples like Habbo but for every even mildly "successful" attempt like it, there are thousands of even shittier ones like Stickcam and Gaia raids or whatever other dreck flooded /b/ at that time that are forgotten and buried. Imageboard culture, perhaps, but it's even more pathetic to know people are still LARPing /i/ boards.
No.163646
>>163645i wonder how 7chan is doing now
No.163647
>>1636467chan was the first altchan I remembered when the hack happened. I checked them out and there were still threads from 2008 around. Also CP spam.
No.163649
I hate the concept of "altchan" because that means there is a "main chan". Why we can't just call them "imageboards"?
No.163652
>>163516They actually got exiled from /v/ and are now permanently settled in /jp/
No.163653
>>163528>>163636I love how it's that one image of the sitting 'Mu
Just perfect
No.163654
>>163578This is a sharty scholar btw, he's been at it for 2 months. Everyone calls him soynpai.
No.163659
is anyone else getting a error code when doing the verification for 39 chan?
No.163661
>>163659Yeah, looks like their captcha system went down
No.163662
>>163661there was a raid planned, this is preventitive
No.163663
Completely off-topic /v/ermin discord circlejerk? 100% Fine.
A perfectly fine Seihou thread? Delete that
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49990399I wish the hack went beyond what happened.
No.163664
>>163663Mod-sama's oshi is streaming Minecraft and needs more thread space, please understand.
No.163667
>>163613It's easy to make fun of them on the lower end but at the same time at least one person who affiliates with them breached 4chan.
No.163668
>>163667even that guy had enough sense to use dancing miku and not soyjaks.
No.163670
>>163669you know, with how antiquated its software is it wouldn't surprise me.
No.163672
>>163669Does that mean search queries and IPs asocisted with them are now at the mercy of hackers? Fuck...
No.163673
>>163669Seems like it's only in /ghost/
No.163674
>>163673Also, it seems to be related to /ic/ in particular
No.163675
>>163669What's the point of hacking an archive site?
No.163676
>>163675you hate fun or want to erase history for some nefarious reason
No.163677
>>163675Because you can? Not everything needs a purpose.
No.163678
>>163676Don't know about hating fun. Hacker seems to be having his own fun, ghost mode redirects to a bocchi song. At least the rest of the site is mostly functional.
No.163679
>>163675For the same reason 4chan was hacked this year, for the lulz
No.163680
>>163663The 4chan staff must be such a nasty, hate-able, demoralized bunch. Imagine being the ruler of the anus of the internet, but even the shit that accumulates there hates your ass.
No.163681
>>163675Other than calling everyone a nigger? Who knows. Maybe someone on the tumor threads flipped over something and decided to fuck with the archives since people also like to ghost post about their favorite vtumors there too.
No.163683
>>163560maybe the 7th shartywave will do it this time
No.163686
>>163667i always thought it must've been some sort of oldfag that just posted it there so they'd take the blame
>>163675maybe he's a true believer in the ephemerality of imageboards?
No.163689
>>163669Almost certainly a hack. But I wonder why only specific threads seem to be targeted? Either way I would be cautious about searching for anything, or even probably using the site at all right now.
No.163690
Losing warosu would be a huge loss of history
probably still not as big as yukila but still
No.163691
>>163690So far it's only /ghost/ that's affected. Admin should still temporarily shut it down to prevent it from getting worse.
No.163692
>>163683Nope, they tried again and failed miserably
No.163693
>>163663Between this and the /v/hu stuff, I wonder if the mods are preparing to wipe touhou off the site entirely.
No.163694
what the fuck happened that made 4chan's current mod team hate Touhou and duojin stuff?
No.163695
>>163694Hack leaks showed that they see it as old busted stuff and always wanted to artificially make /jp/ a fast board like /a/ or /v/ in some way or another. They got their wish when vtumors took over the board and killed a fuckton of threads.
No.163697
>>163694What do you expect of a website that is moderated by the CIA... At least since 2014 4/jp/ is shit anyways.
No.163698
>>163694not related enough to culture war pls understand
No.163699
>>163695Why the fuck would they want /jp/ to be a fast moving board what? That's retarded, the modstaff are fucking retarded.
No.163700
>>163699in other news the sky is blue
No.163701
>>163696The captcha got borked because of a cloudflare setting but once that's fixed it'll shortly go back up.
No.163702
>>163691has anyone contacted the admin about this?
No.163704
demonic captcha..
No.163706
If 4taba is any indication, we will get absolutely leveled if Kissu is ever attacked, especially now where the boss is constantly busy playing gacha..
No.163709
>>163703Hopefully this is enough to stop those losers from reverse image searching
No.163713
>>163703>>163707no.... the ayys got her......
No.163716
>>163707sanny looking pretty sick rn...
No.163717
>>163703is this meant to stop phash/AI stuff?
No.163718
>>163703yet another victory for wapchan and /jp/ culture
>>163717almost certainly, or even just them putting the images in google reverse image search.
No.163721
one step further would be to have a bunch of AI gens of recognizable characters. maybe gen a new batch every day or something. you could have trick captchas too like having reimu dressed up as marisa.
No.163723
>>163721AI gens are far more computationally expensive that just screwing around with filters so I'm not sure how feasible this is
No.163724
>>163723yeah, it's why i thought about genning them daily. you wouldn't do it for every single request.
No.163725
>>163721AI gens are soulless, these are funny I like them more
No.163726
¥ ddos your own site with AI Generated captchas!
Damn, you guys should become VCs
No.163728
>>163726Hey, if you propose that in an interview, you might get hired by Microsoft.
No.163736
What the FUCK is the appeal of Higurashi?
No.163744
POST that gif
No.163757
>>163736i like when the blue haired little girl goes 'nippah!' i think its cute
No.163767
>>163758original language also
No.163769
>>163667>at least one person who affiliates with them breached 4chan.The party disavowed the attacker because they used an image of an anime girl and the community hates anime posters.
No.163771
>>163669Apparently the hacker is just fucking around with JavaScript functionality and the archived data is untouched. I can confirm disabling JS makes the "NIGGER" threads display normally.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/50184996#p50185021 No.163829
i saw an actual discussion thread get deleted but the /v/hu shit stays up, it is a real mystery.
No.163830
>>163669In ghost post 43503767,4 there is the code:
<span class=filetitle><script>let a=document.querySelectorAll(`blockquote p`);for(b of a)b.innerText=`NIGGER`</script></span>Looks like a standard Javascript injection attack. Someone found a place where they could type < and > without the site converting them to < and > as it should. It doesn't affect the archived data, but if you visit an affected page with Javascript enabled, the script will run in your browser.
No.163832
>>163695>>163697Is there proof for any of this or are you just talking out of your ass, even if it sounds plausible?
No.163842
>>163841The /j/ board leaks? God you're such a fucking retard.
No.163843
>>163703The sharty raiders are probably toast now, since even if they saved the old images from before the new captcha he can just swap out the characters. I tried to reverse image search and these effects were more than enough to break it.
No.163844
>>163703>>163843I assume these distortions are to beat AI image recognition.
No.163852
>>163848I really like this disorted effect
No.163862
>>163711Ah, Rena, or some say Reina...
No.163871
>>163841you have anything that is less than 5 years old?
No.163875
>>163871I believe this is all the /j/ stuff that was found
https://bvll.neocities.org/j/ No.163886
>>163875I remember seeing posts of people pulling irc logs of the jans complaining about 4/jp/, I think I still have the email list saved on a text file somewhere.
No.163938
>>163841>>163875for the lazy here's a link to the thread
https://bvll.neocities.org/j/6415the replies go all the way oct '24
glad to see our /qa/-gang got a shoutout
No.163939
oh nice a thread dedicated to /qa/. i can't believe i missed this earlier
https://bvll.neocities.org/j/6485 No.163941
>>163938>I'd personally rather have more vtuber threads with quality discussion at the cost of losing a few Touhou-ecchi-image-dump threads.Yeah good luck with that.
What absolute clowns. Although I have to give them credit for making me start seeking out other chans and eventually finding kissu.
No.163971
>>163941he's right and /c/ style image dump threads are essentially on the level of /v/hu circlejerks
No.163972
>>163971Even accepting the premise that 4/jp/ Touhou threads are mostly image dumps with absolutely no value doesn't make
>vtuber threads with quality discussionany less stupid.
No.163973
>>163971I liked the /c/ style threads because they were slow and people posted good art and funny images of the characters. The /v/hu circlejerks from what I read was this weird meta discussion involving doxxing artists and anyone that the posters could stick a name to, while posting kuso western interpretations of the characters, its extremely cringe, on par with vtuber spam.
No.163974
>>163938>>163939....the good ole' days
sigh
No.163975
>>163939Missed it too.
>I can't really speak to the volume of unique users on /qa/, but it's apparent that opportunists have taken advantage of relatively lax moderation to shitpost to their hearts' content. However, I'd wager that this attitude is not representative of the rest of the site's users, who would probably prefer a place where meta discussion can be conducted in an orderly fashion over having another pseudo-random board.>Unfortunately, /qa/ is in this weird middle ground where it's trying to support decent quality meta threads and shitposting at the same time. This simply isn't feasible. I'd be interested in seeing what others have to say about this, but I'll toss out some ideas for the sake of a springboard:Nice going, retardo. Instead of 2D/Random+Meta instead you made /i/ with the worst subhumans imaginable to the point that you had to shut it down. Hope it was worth it, fucktard.
No.163976
>>163975Yeah, despite cognizance of the problems, and userbase desires, they just found a way to make a place inhospitable to everyone.
Death by committee.
No.163984
>>163975they seemed perfectly content with it being /i/ until it bit them hard. 4chan mods have this tendency to really shoot themselves in the foot.
No.164064
>>>/trans/30283some interesting posts and stuff sprinkled in that last discussion, but you guys should remember this is a
happenings thread
No.164194
>>164193
Captcha is down but some posts still make it through.
No.164195
>>164193
Yes, looks like the captcha is fucked up.
No.164196
>>164194>>164195now I feel bad for deleting my post. thanks anon, I thought it was the internet at my job shitting the bed.
No.164197
>>164194>>164195Thanks. I thought my ISP was blocking cloudflare and the problem was on my side.
No.164198
CHICKEN JOCKEY
No.164201
>>164200>membersDo you mean pass users, you dumb shit? No, I can still post without pass, and it's all just very slow.
No.164202
>>164199What site is that? 4stats still hasn't restored the charts.
No.164203
File:4s.png (634.5 KB,1236x4701)
>>164200I'm a non-pass user (>implying I would give hiro and rapedape my money) and I was able to upload an image after a couple of attempts. Right now it seems that sys.4chan.org (the part of the site that deals with uploads, reports and native captchas) is chocking on something.
No.164205
>>164204Thank you. I can see some issues, but it's better than nothing.
No.164220
death to advertisers
No.164221
this advertiser just advertised me
No.164222
Do you guys believe having thread IDs would help cut down on shitposting/samefagging on 4chan? This was discussed at one point and people kept saying they're pointless and people could just evade them the same way they evade bans (and that on boards that do have IDs they're just to cause conflict in threads). I can see why that may be an issue but I don't think that makes them entirely pointless. Plus, they added the IP counter and then got rid of it, so the fact that they got rid of it makes me think having it does provide useful information to see how many posters are just having conversations with themselves.
>>164220>>164221My favorite part was when the advertiser yelled "I'm advertising!" and then advertised all over the place.
No.164242
>>164240 (deleted)read
>>164219 No.164243
>>164242Sorry about that, missed that post.
No.164244
>>164222I think it would be helpful but as you said, you'd need solid moderation so it doesn't just turn into constant bickering about 1pbtids.
No.164246
>>164219At this point it's not "malicious attention whore". It's "Admins of two of the largest non-corporate internet communities begging for help dealing with a group of schizos waging a literal internet guerrilla war"
Might as well consider them the new Esther. Or we are also forbidden to talk about them too?
No.164247
Yeah this is important to talk about, stop being a bitch about it just because you have a bug up your ass about these particular characters. They're not soy wojackers so you don't even have that excuse.
No.164248
>>164222Getting IDs on the slower boards and realizing that every thread is just 3-5 people talking to each other would be depressing as fuck. IDs should be reserved to fast boards where samefagging is a real issue (like /pol/ and /biz/).
No.164249
>>164247I agree the topic is interesting and I consider it relevant to the "or related stuff" in the OP, but "stop being a bitch" is a terrible response.
No.164250
>>164248There's a few other ID IBs where I feel really ashamed if I double post.
No.164251
>>164247This thread sits in an odd place between the yukkuri atmosphere of kissu and the documentation legacy of /qa/. So talking about shitposters and spammers(which inevitably turns into their glorification or criticism) is a grey area. Since it turns into something that resembles an activist's hideout on an otherwise casual site, how much is permitted depends on how quickly it deteriorates into becoming strongly adjacent to the rest of Kissu.
So to put it simply, while statements that we try to respect more 'freedom' in this thread, there's going to be limits that are only ever going to be relative.
I think the time proximity to the other deleted conversation should be enough indication that the dial is not turned towards freedom right now
No.164252
>>164246In the past when people wanted to build someone up as the final boss of the internet in this thread we had to put a word filter in place and start deleting the posts as the shameless promotion dominated the thread and was close to driving people away.
You're talking about things said on twitter and kiwifarms, neither of which is an imageboard. And you're not talking about
events, you're talking about individuals.
"[Name] is doing this and [name] is doing that! [Other name] has declared war on [name]! Stay tuned for the next internet battle on Dragonball Z!"
Imageboards are just background noise for this subject. You want to talk about their actions as people behind the keyboard.
Will this thread benefit from documenting these "schizos waging a literal internet guerrilla war"? When has a thread ever benefitted from talking about schizos?
What are people supposed to post in relation to that? Discord screenshots? Twitter posts? Does this still sound like an imageboard happenings thread to you or does it sound like kiwifarms?
>>164247>these particular characters.You're conflating my refusal to fill this thread with gossip with me taking "sides" which is exactly the kind of thing that can't be allowed to sprout here.
No.164253
>>164249>"stop being a bitch" is a terrible response.Tailored to the mod I'm responding to, who has a bit of a persecution complex. The whole "99% of the internet is already RUINED ;_; by the stuff I personally hate" sentiment.
>>164252>In the past when people wanted to build someone up as the final boss of the internet in this thread we had to put a word filter in place and start deleting the posts as the shameless promotion dominated the thread and was close to driving people away.Thought that was more due to personal involvement between "that guy" and the webmaster of kissu.moe than anything else. In any case, what has that guy done lately? You could remove the wordfilter and I bet nothing would happen.
>>164252>You're conflating my refusal to fill this thread with gossip with me taking "sides" which is exactly the kind of thing that can't be allowed to sprout here.I'm not at all under the impression that you are on guy A's side of the KF/4chan/[the attacker] site war more than guy B or guy C. You don't like any of them. Well, disliking them all equally still doesn't make you objective. This moderation action comes across to me as more like "Stop discussing what I don't like", using considerations of the greater good for kissu as a figleaf.
No.164255
So the gist of the events as they relate to imageboards, without referencing the people involved, is that 4chan is undergoing a successful denial of service attack. The attack is not a DDOS, but an indirect method involving CP spam. Is that correct?
No.164256
>>164252That guy was a special case because he quite literally ordered people to do that, and specifically ordered it done to kissu and the "/qa/sphere", or at least that's how I understand it went.
Here we are mere observers. And it ain't a guy. The man literally runs his own community and has like a dozen well known 4chan spammers confirmed to use the site. I could name names but I doubt locals would recognize anyone besides vidyabutts.
And did you forget the CP bots I mentioned before? They exist and are operating right now courtesy of him. Go check the /v/ archive if you don't believe me. We post that 4chan sucks all the time. To me this is an effort at understand why it sucks.
This is genuinely something unprecedented and at this point it's basically guaranteed we are gonna see people talking about this, chan-side, 10 years from now.
No.164257
All these posts inspired me to look into the drama myself and all I can say is holy shit the furfag I saw on 4/qa/ back in 2019 is still at it. If it weren't for his vile nature I'd praise him for sticking it to the 4chan jannies.
Regarding the post deletions, I think talking about the spam/individual(s) is fine. He is someone that has been around for years and continues to have an effect on multiple imageboards. I have documented activity across imageboards for a while now and think its worth having the information around for those people who like internet archaeology.
I don't, however, think that posting anything from KF should be allowed. Its a particularly vile site that's largely divorced from imageboards.
No.164269
>>164222Only the worst 4chan boards have IDs, and only the worst trash coming from these boards want IDs because they fear anonymity. To put it into 4chan lingo, they're reddit.
No.164270
>>164269Wouldn't the worst of the worst trash posters NOT want IDs because that would mean that they can go about without getting caught?
4chan is a nigger-reddit colony at this point so who fucking cares if shit is reddit or not, it's already a reddit/twitter shithole colony.
No.164271
>>164270Then you should just go for accounts with IDs instead of names.
No.164272
>>164270It's pointless because you can just flick the airplane mode or reset your router to get a new ID. When you're a typical user not aware of that, you get susceptible to "consensus" psyops. There are no upsides. If anything, IDs only give more cancer opportunities.
"We" probably could get a secret experimental topical board with IDs, maybe, just to see how it could go on kissu.
>>164255Some days ago before the little offtopic purge I wanted to schizo funpost as to how come 4chan gets so little CP spam, other imageboards get it disproportionately more, and mainstream social content sites had been getting next to zero even before AI filters - as botspam is technically a service that costs money, so the selective money trails are quite weird. I deleted before sending. Now this is an awkward coincidence.
No.164277
>>164270Why would I want to post with an ID when I can just use a forum instead, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of an imageboard? Whatever place I see with this implemented I don't use it at all.
No.164278
>>164277I think it's fine if the admin turns it on and off.
No.164279
You just know that a dedicated schizo would change IP and thus IDs all the time if they were enabled. Which would lead that you get ">1 post by this ID" replies or something, which is probably why the mods removed the IP counter in the first place.
No.164280
>>164277The IDs are thread specific. It's not like an "identity" like with a forum. Even with the problems with it people are pointing out I still feel like it could do some prevention of samefagging.
No.164281
Maybe a bit off-topic but what are the things that annoy you about modern imageboard design? I fucking hate multiple attachments and some of the insanely high limits other place have. If you're going to allow threads to get up to 2000 posts or some bullshit like that, at least implement pagination like this place.
>>164280agreed
No.164283
>>164281I don't mind 3 attachments but 5 is too many
No.164284
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/283308967Bait thread reached bump limit with chatgpt spam.
No.164285
>>164281Multi image posts are bullshit. If you want to focus on image dumping, just make it easier to make more posts.
No.164287
>>164285imo they're fine for boards that are meant to be actual image dumps but it completely kills discussion on slower boards.
No.164289
Thread IDs could be a fun experiment on /secret/.
No.164299
>>164289how am I supposed to blog in the write thread if /secret/ is turned into that!?
No.164307
I never understood why 4chan anons screech at the removal of the IP counter so much, while the removal of the public ban list got basically ignored.
No.164315
>>164248Yeah, I hate that too and most of why I didn't do much on 8/jp/ to keep doing what I was doing on 4/jp/. Really dont like being half the thread in posts when it's a character I really like and feel the need to reply to everything.
No.164319
4trash down again?
No.164322
>>164319Yeah, captcha is dead
No.164349
>>164307The IP counter was a little bit of assurance that a thread wasn't complete samefagging, and as for the public ban list, well, it really wasn't that popular and it was curated (wasn't it?) by the jannies rather than being comprehensive.
Really, all of it is just changes that no one asked for that aren't beneficial in any way. Like
>>164326 said rather than becoming more transparent over time/after the hack they've just doubled down and are even more isolated from the average anon.
No.164352
>>164326>>164349I kept seeing schizos saying mods accidentally pushed the wrong button when banning some CP spammer so it showed up on there and that's why it got removed. Who knows if that's true or not. What's more likely is that they urgently chopped off as many features from Yotsuba as possible.
No.164371
The new captcha they have is unreasonably hard. I have failed it 7 times now.
No.164373
>>164371>>164372Do you know what a circle is? Actually, some of the circles in your image look more like diamonds. But even those are what you need to be typing. So that one would be JHGK8D.
No.164374
>>164373A diamond is not a circle.
Is team4chan this retarded?
No.164375
>>164374I'm pretty sure these captchas are just used directly from Google. So it's Google that's retarded.
No.164376
Maybe in India a diamond is a circle.
No.164377
Kinda feels like death by 1000 cuts
No.164378
>>164372it's really funny that the one guy working on wapchan made a better captcha for free than the guy paid to work on 4chan
No.164379
>>164378It's meant for a completely different threat model.
No.164381
>>164352>What's more likely is that they urgently chopped off as many features from Yotsuba as possible.proxyfags were using the ban list as a sort of fame contest. That's the only reason it got removed.
No.164384
>>164370>MrVacBob got a real job ever so long agoat apple btw. Think he's still in there.
You are wrong on just about everything else. There's been a lot of backend shit to deal with spammers. The entire IP trust system for stealth spammers / bots and the flood limit system for script spammers.
There's currently no technological solution for
targeted spam, specially now with AI. The kids here saying their super duper secret character captchas work do it because they never actually experience a spambot with an active maintainer working on custom methods to evade blocks.
If you don't believe me, I remind you that no other mega platform on the Internet has successfully fought off bots without requiring live camera ID'ing to register.
No.164386
>>164374It's a circle in the taxicab metric.
No.164387
>>164384Sorry mate but I don't consider a few bespoke tit for tat improvements from a literal part timer over a decade to be significant development. It demonstrates the lack of priority while the janitor program has only even expanded exponentially while 4chan languishes to the point it can be skidded into from the lack of developer man hours.
And AI has absolutely nothing to do with what 4chan's administrator was complaining about.
No.164388
>>164372I can't imagine this will help much in the long term. Finding white and black circles in a mostly gray image is not exactly a difficult problem. But at least it was probably quick to implement.
>>1643754chan hasn't used Google's so-called captcha in a while.
No.164394
>>164381The only thing I saw that posts by the same spammer got vastly different ban reasons, from ban evasion to normal 3 days, indicating that the staff was completely uncoordinated and in the dark about these schizos. They're so god damn retarded, every normal user knew it was the same ban evading schizo.
>>164372>they expect new users to bother with this shitThe 4chan staff is so trash holy shit.
No.164399
>>164386what's the taxicab diamond?
No.164400
Speaking the disaster 4chan is right now, I did a search of deleted /v/ opening posts in arch.b4k.dev. Right now there's archived CSAM up to Saturday. I won't be surprised if they get dropped by the DNS registrar again.
No.164404
>>164403this looks like one of those stealth jew pics
No.164406
>>164402It can get specially bad during the morning euro hours (/g/ too). I have seen days when it's like there are no janitors actively monitoring the board at the time. If you don't report it, it will stay there for some time, rather than being deleted in seconds.
No.164407
>>164394AI moderation when?
No.164408
>>164407That would definitely perform better... if you had anything decent to train it on.
No.164409
>>164406SEA hours are the worst. I know this as a sufferer of insomnia.
No.164411
>>164349>after the hack they've just doubled down and are even more isolated from the average anon.That just reminds me, they deleted the moderation feedback item in the feedback form too.
Also, never try to post pic related character on /a/.
No.164412
>>164411what's wrong with her?
No.164417
>>164407Wordfilters are enough, anything more and it would be weird
No.164421
Not even 4chan’s adult gif board is safe from all the race baiting and culture war garbage. Most threads get constantly derailed with off-topic shit and little to no videos ever get posted in them. Just walls of text from /pol/cels complaining about degeneracy and how le boogeymen is behind race mixing and whatnot.
No.164436
>>164421Blame the people endlessly shilling that stuff, not the people complaining about the people endlessly shilling that stuff. Common sense.
No.164437
>>164421Fascinating. I wouldn't have thought /gif/ could get even worse. Let me guess, the mods don't care.
No.164438
Mods cared enough they made /wsg/ where they enforce their pet interpretations of the rules. /gif/ itself was basically written off at that point.
No.164439
catbox is retarded for requiring an email address to report links. Are you supposed to actually email links to illegal contents to them hosted by their site? That would be an illegal act in itself.
No.164440
>>164400Reminds me of how there was a guy on /jp/ that would spam CP on Vocaloid threads and months later his posts are still on Warosu
No.164441
>>164440What the FUCK are all the moralfags doing?
No.164442
>>164440There's this guy that does it in Touhou and Vocaloid threads on /v/. Hell, even having Miku in the Sonic Racing Crossworlds OPs was enough to set him off.
No.164444
>>164441Crusading against videogames and anime.
No.164445
>>1642844chan is definitely going through a controlled demolition right now. I guess the real world awaits me. Fuck
No.164447
>>164442>There's this guy that does it in Touhou and Vocaloid threads on /v/The 'shitgu' spammer, right?. I don't go on /v/ so I don't know how active he is there, but he used to spam the Vocaloid threads on /jp/ and go on long rants about how Teto is better than Miku before posting CP and leaving.
What's funny is that even without him there the Vocaloid threads on /jp/ are still abysmal dogshit compared to what they were pre-hack.
No.164449
>>164439>catbox is retarded for requiring an email address to report linksOstensibly to prevent report abuse.
The CP laws are intentionally obtuse. They're meant to shut down free and open discussion on the internet. Either you go dancing about trying to follow the laws or you get deplatformed.
It makes it so easy. All you do is inject illegal content and then cry foul to the authorities who come to crush and kill you and your website.
Meanwhile the industrialized mass child rape and murder implied by the Epstein and Dutroux brouhahas is allowed to continue with not so much as a single batted eye by the mundanes. They want to listen to Grimes and Eilish on their smarttrackers while the industrial waste spills into the fields and oceans exterminating whatever remains alive, before spreading their infection to the stars.
No.164454
>>164449WHATS WRONG WITH GRIMES???
I LIKE GRIMES?!?!
No.164456
>>164455Not that specifically, the thread itself. Sorry
No.164457
>>164372oh fuck i left my computer on for several consecutive days (started doing this because of the ridiculously long wait times they use to make you sit through before posting) so i haven't got this variant of the captcha yet
to repeat what another anon said, the hack in april wasn't enough
No.164459
>>164439>>164449What I'm shocked by is catmin not figuring out how to stop a bulk of it.
No.164460
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/(redacted)The absolute state of /pol/tards and of Norway.
(Not a happening) No.164461
>>164460As shit as /pol/ is it kind of reminds me of how people described old /b/ as a board you could hop on at anytime and be completely taken off guard by. There's always something lulzy or interesting to see.
No.164470
>Janitor application acceptance emails are being sent out. Please remember to check your spam box!
Guys, 4chan moderation will be good again!
No.164471
>>164470Imagine willingly doxing yourself to RapeApe and going through that humiliation ritual of an interview.
No.164478
>>164470Already?
This year really has been one of remarkable decline there.
No.164485
>>164387>And AI has absolutely nothing to do with what 4chan's administrator was complaining about.The pizza bot solves captchas via AI, posts inane anime+game AI model threads to build up a repository of session cookies and trusted IP.
Right now, they are trying to extend the system to solve hcaptcha too.
Argue "he doesn't do enough" all you want, there's literally nothing left to do short of killing 4chan's purpose as an IB by implementing account systems.
>>164402It's revenge spam. I want to make the point for everyone reading: I was around for the wild west /b/ days. It pales compared to this. At no point in 4chan's 20 years of history it's been this bad.
>>164470You sound buttmad
No.164486
>>164485>The pizza bot solves captchas via AI, posts inane anime+game AI model threads to build up a repository of session cookies and trusted IP.How would you know this? What's the purpose of having a "trusted" IP when it can just solve captchas?
>It's revenge spam.What for?
>You sound buttmadWhy?
No.164487
>>164485How do you know he's trying to solve hcaptcha?
>>164486Trusted IPs get simpler captchas, can post more often, probably evade some shadowbans, etc
No.164488
>>164485Also what did you mean by "posts inane anime+game AI model threads"
The threads are AI generated or are they about AI? It doesn't look completely automatic since the poster will sometimes respond.
No.164489
>>164488I assume he means they let the bots post about nothing (that would be deleted or arouse suspicion) to farm trusted sessions.
But how he knows, he didn't tell us. If he's speaking the truth he obviously must be one of them. He didn't post an archived or live thread of that sort, so he could be making up a story as well.
No.164490
>>164489>He didn't post an archived or live thread of that sort, By that, I mean it would have been easy for him to post proof.
No.164491
>>164489>I assume he means they let the bots post about nothing (that would be deleted or arouse suspicion) to farm trusted sessions.This one, we knew about. It was being done manually.
His reaction to that anon making fun of the janny hiring process makes me think it would be pretty funny if GrapeApe posted here.
No.164492
>>164489>>164491>>farm trusted sessions.>This one, we knew about.hmm, but what's the point of doing that if the bot is already able to solve captchas? what's the benefit of getting a no verification needed after having gotten the prior five or so correct?
No.164493
>>164492You can spam faster and evade other countermeasures, I guess.
No.164494
I just had that thought that most janny applicants are probably state sponsored trolls and such, who want to censor unwelcome opinions, gain insight into 4chan's workings, or other information warfare reasons.
It makes too much sense. It's too obvious even.
>>164492I don't see any. Maybe they can't auto solve the harder captchas, so they farm trusted sessions manually before using them to spam? If they spam CP, their sessions will get burned forever immediately. Such huge effort (in addition to becoming a fully fledged criminal) just to express their butthurt at 4chan.
No.164495
>>164493but isn't it slower? you need to wait for two minutes with every post, and i'm not sure what those avoided countermeasures would be
No.164497
>>164487>>164486>How would you know this? >How do you know he's trying to solve hcaptcha?Because the lead dev(s?) of the ban evasion tool said so. You can just read their IB. They don't hide what they are doing.
>>164486>What for?Their leader got doxed.
Tho' they were already playing hide and seek with embedded pizza files all year. They just stopped doing the "hide" part.
Since you can see in the /v/ archive that pizza is getting posted literally 24/7 it's not too hard to guess someone hooked up a bot recently.
That also means they can afford to waste several hundred IPs a day without affecting their capabilities. shit's fucking grim.
>>164492Auto-flood detection can make it so you can't post images or make threads unless your session is old enough.
>>164489I'm trying to respect the admins wishes by not mentioning the places discussing this.
No.164498
>>164497Oh.
Well going mask off might make the feds actually look at it now. No doubt they thought GrapeApe was a schizo for saying shit like "hey these guys hide links to a file locker in file names to images and videos of illegal material which is also encrypted"