No.152663
>>152657I think it's mostly just about curbing spam, and how the team4chan is completely obsessed with enforcing their top down vision of the boards but lacks the manpower and tools to do it.
No.152668
>>152667
There won't be any naming/promotion of a site used to post cp on 4chan here.
No.152669
New or untrusted IPs still have to wait 120 seconds before posting on 4chan. And if they have waited and made a post, but want to make another post in a different thread, they have to wait 120 seconds again. Just requesting the captcha in another thread resets the timer.
It's like they want to lose users. Or they're dumb enough that they think this bullshit will generate pass sales.
No.152670
This is literally 1984.
No.152673
whoops, i had no idea
No.152679
>>152600I do wonder that if 4chan dies it takes the appeal of imageboards with it, such that few migrate to alts and were left with a handful of scattered sites.
No.152680
>>152679Yeah. It would be like that. rebuilding it's public reputation is impossible. Unless imageboards are destined for notoriety which they could be.
No.152683
>>152680I mean in more of the sense that the entire chansphere would die as what remained on the alts wouldn't be able to hold on.
No.152684
>>152683Advertising small chans would definetly be harder
No.152685
>>152683I refuse to be fucking herded into those niggercattle sites like X or whatever alt for microblogging bullshit there is, fuck that.
No.152686
>>152685I know we don't, but I wonder if a lot of people will just throw up their hands and go to xitter rather than find an altchan
No.152687
>>152686They do, and that's what most are doing and that fucking sucks.
I don't know what the future for imageboards are, I'm scared for it because this is all I known, I grew up with this shit since I was
13 No.152689
>>152687Same though I've been on my fair share of forums too though I wish I hadn't given how much of an absolute turd I was and the fact that the username associated with that forum account will forever be tied to my identity if I use it again
No.152690
>>152687I have spent my whole adult life on imageboards, they're my home and I have strong feelings for them that people often find cringe.
No.152691
>>152686I think 4chan is serving more as the holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter what time we're in. But also that market is locked to 4chan because of that immense notoriety pull which garners it all the attention it has in the first place. As we saw recently plenty of people are happy to jump ship to alts if it dies but if 4chan is alive then they'll begrudgingly still use it because of the addiction it's built in them.
No.152692
>>152585Oh come on its not even a month after the damn incident.
No.152693
>>152651Sleep deprivation is not good for you.
No.152694
>>152691>holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter whatI certainly hope so
No.152695
>>152657How aggressive exactly?
>>152661You are way too paranoid about this privacy nonsense.
Just use plain FF and blend in with the crowd.
No.152696
>>152669>it will reset the timer if you make another request on a different threadBollocks! That only occurs if its from a different board (i.e. make a captcha request on a red board then on a blue board vice versa).
No.152697
>>152685This post reeks of tryhardism
No.152698
>>152686Or maybe the userbase of terminally online freaks overlap each platform from the start.
No.152699
>>1526914chan is categorically classed as a huge social media platform though. Stop lying its not funny :(
No.152700
>>152697>>152698>>152699Jesus christ just make one post instead of three you dumbass.
No.152702
>>152696Nope, it's per thread now. It's new since the hack.
No.152703
I'm sure pre hack this thread would have been deleted immediately for low quality
https://boards.4chan.org/c/thread/4406515 No.152711
>>152709>>152710Is the joke that cloudflare and every social media site do worse things?
The only suspicious thing is that they have such a way to inject javascript through websockets. They could just run any javascript they want by putting it on their website (like integrity.wasm itself), but that they have such a direrced method makes me think it's to run special javascript payloads for certain known users. Possibly even zeroday exploits. Imagine the top soyjak (who is admin and literally looks like the ugliest drawings on their site) getting offended by a user who posted a loli vampire, and he goes all LE PEDO MENACE MUST DESTROY, and runs a zeroday (which he purchased on the blackmarket for thousands of dollars) specifically on that user's browser to "own" him.
No.152718
>>152709>>152710If this happened 4 years ago, Soot (site's original creator) would've gotten raped to death.
No.152719
>>152709>>152710Kinda funny how sites can just abuse users at a certain level of momentum and they'll just take it like bitches
No.152730
>>152719Kids these days plaster their real name and face online anyway, I doubt they care about their favorite site knowing all about them, if they even know it does that.
No.152742
>>152500>since 2022 any particular reason it happened then
No.152743
>>152742Government covid policies started winding down
No.152744
>>152743was the site dying until covid
No.152748
>>152739I'm going to delete all of your files.
No.152749
/j/ now leads to a 404, the board seems to have been either deleted or moved.
No.152750
>>152749They probably renamed it or did something with the access rights. But the cynical worse case scenario is probably that it has served its purpose and got shut down so now everyone is going to use the internal moderation Discord.
No.152778
>>152749>>152750Yet another imageboard that degraded into a discord channel, just literally now instead of de facto.
No.152802
rottingangels is dead? when the fuck did that happen?
No.152838
>>152808thanks, i didn't really go there but it felt very unique, shame it's gone now. RIP
No.152942
>>152570>You should probably look at the numbers a month, half a year, or a year from now.The PPH trend looks to be fairly stable. It's been nearly a week. I think it's safe to assume that there aren't going to be any spikes from people suddenly finding out 4chan is back. If anything, the lack of gradual increase over the course of a week tells me that the difference Pre- and Post-hack reflects the attachment level users had to 4chan, meaning that the remainder who have yet to return are unlikely to return at all and have likely found alternative outlets for discussion that they might have used 4chan for.
>Altchans have a 20 year long habit of dying down.Nowhere did I mention non-4chan imageboards. We're exclusively talking about 4chan here.
No.152970
>>152942I was actually sorta posting on 4chan again before the hack but it going down and seeing the potential for other imageboards made me quit completely.
No.153054
>>152748It's okay anon i don't post there, i just lurk
>>152808Sucks to see, that site had potential and a forum/imageboard hybrid is something i have not seen anyone else do
No.153435
>>152500Is 4chin kill for good this time? On a serious note, I feel like the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.
No.153594
>>153435>Is 4chin kill for good this time?No.
>the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.There's a reason why a lot of new altchans ban their shit. They are the internet equivalent to cockroaches.
No.153610
I cannot access [s4s]. whenever I go to the catalog: a giant video of kirby opens up. is this some epic new meme?
No.153622
>>153610I only see a stickied thread with an enlarged frog image.
Maybe 4chan really shouldn't have come back.
No.153630
>>153610Yeah it's not just you
No.153642
I see kirby with 4chan X and the frog without
No.153646
wow even [s4s] dislikes the reddit frog
No.153656
God, I hate s4s so fucking much
No.153659
>>153656We need to make a Shit Kissu Says
No.153660
>>153659isn't that just jp?
No.153662
you're saying it right now
No.153666
>>153610Go to
https://boards.4chan.org/s4s/thread/12228561then zoom out and block the element with something like UBO.
No.153669
>>153659We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard culture; it can't come back any more than lolcat macros or rageface can.
No.153670
>>153663You were always the problem, and now the problem grew even larger than you.
No.153673
tumblring down...
tumblring down...
No.153675
>>153670>You were always the problemPlease elaborate.
No.153681
>>153669>We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard cultureI'm not so sure about that frogs and wojacks are still everywhere
No.153782
So far it seems that kissu stabilized into a regular posting cycle. Going off of the recent posts tab as a metric, it seems like the last 60 posts rarely exceeds past the 3 hour mark.
No.153810
4chan has seemingly implemented a shadowban system where certain users are able to "post" and don't show up as banned but none of their messages actually get put on the site
No.153811
>>153810That's not a shadowban and it already exists in the leaked source code. The purpose is to confuse bots.
A real shadowban would show the posts only to the poster's IP which isn't really meaningful for a website not hard gated behind a login.
No.153812
>>153810>>153811Yes, it's old. Under what circumstances does it happen? It used to happen to me all the time when I misentered the captcha, but it suddenly went away and I have no seen it for months.
No.153824
>>153823Don't worry /pol/ schizos are contained in their own board.
No.153825
We have a /pol/ board too and it doesn't even contain the 'zos. we can't throw stones from our glass house ...
No.153826
>>153825What are you talking about?
No.153827
Why is berun like that?
No.153828
Bleh, I dislike allowing any drive-by promotion, especially of Tor boards that will probably become massive CP spam hubs, but he did do what another mod said to do so I can't really blame him.
No.153829
8chan seems to be holding some kind of meme event with a vtumor lol
No.153830
>>153828I'm just trying to attract some touhou posters on my board, sorry if this bothers you. By the way CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worry.
No.153831
>>153830>CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worryI'll try and be as nice as possible since you don't seem that malicious a person but Tor boards don't really work unless you're a free speech absolutist with that goal in mind because you can't ban anyone and anyone you moderate will just hop on another IP to spam 5 seconds later because it's trivially easy to. Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activism.
No.153832
this disaster just disasted me
No.153833
>>153822Doesn't look bad but it's a bit aimless, no? Like what's the theme? Isn't it just 4chan on Tor?
No.153834
>>153831VPN users can do the same thing here, minus the /pol/ part.
>Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activismWho cares? Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.
No.153835
>>153834Not with as much ease, we've mostly killed a good bit of VPN ASNs.
No.153836
>>153834>Who cares?When your site raids real life, real life raids it back. That, and imageboards only ever attract the resentment-driven type of activism whose only aim is sadistic spectacle.
>Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.Politics never stay on their designated shitting board because those boards become breeding grounds for nutjobs who believe it's their mission in life to spread the demons in their head everywhere.
No.153837
who sages
No.153838
>>153837All my homies sage
No.153845
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153848
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153850
>>153845DDoSing the raspberry pi in your parent's basement is still a raid.
Overwhelming your site through sheer numbers and derailing all discussion to be about things you hate is still a raid.
But more realistically, you will take the site offline in a few months because you got bored of nothing ever happening.
>>153848Dumb torposter.
No.153853
>>153852
Yes! YES!
No.153860
>>153830It's a nice sentiment, but I don't use Tor for the reason
>>153831 stated. For my purposes of being a 2hufag I got what I need already, there's nothing that an onion site offers me that I want out of it.
No.153891
>>153646Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated from? I remember pepes were seen as the spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thing.
No.153894
>>153891>isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated fromYes, it came from them
>spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thingWell pepe and wojak were fairly contemporary, its just that pepes became popular with normalfags and tourists before wojaks did
No.153900
>>153894I'm aware. I was specifically referring to the soyjaks spammed on /qa/ around 2020. The original wojak alongside the one that was made to mock soyboys circa 2017 have become normalfag memes on their own and thus has faded into obscurity for the most part. What i was saying is that before that pepes were the closest thing.
No.153906
I never understood how the wojak overtook the frog because I stopped looking at 4chan around the time they transitioned
No.153908
>>153824>/pol/ schizosYou may have schizos, but I don't see the poster specifically known as /pol/ schizo on your board. If he was there your overboard would be 90% threads about how everyone he doesn't like is a psychopath and we ought to do national defense which means covertly kill them and their kids. Has he tried to post there?
>>153828>>153830Spam is more of a problem on Tor boards than CP in practice. Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?
No.153931
>>153906mental illness and a lot of free time
No.154071
is 8chan's captcha not working for anybody else on firefox? even tried creating a new profile with the default setting and still, nothing happens when i click the verification button. no issues on Edge apparently
No.154075
>>153908>Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?honestly i don't know how they manage that. it's insane how l+js is still alive with every post having at least 10 markov chain replies. fagmin is really committed to his job job fed or not, i only have respect for the mod team.
>>154071doesn't work on ungoogled chromium too, i asked in some other imageboard and apparently you need some kind of web worker shit which is very likely disabled if you have some custom setup.
No.154076
>>154075>doesn't work on ungoogled chromium too, i asked in some other imageboard and apparently you need some kind of web worker shit which is very likely disabled if you have some custom setup.damn it. they must have just implemented this because yesterday i posted there via firefox no problems. thanks for confirming it isn't just a problem on my end
No.154078
>>154076mmh, i think i tried posting on it about a year ago on tor and it still didn't work. we're talking about 8kun.moe or .se right?
i'm using umatrix with only html+css+cookies and their cookie system (when they ask you to accept their TOA) does not work. that's what i mean when i said they need some web worker crap
anyway it's not that big of an issue imo, the only somewhat active board is /v/
No.154083
>>154071I must shit and i have no posts. Stopped working for me a few weeks ago when halfchan came back. Im using chromium as well (Brave)
No.154086
>>154070Pretty damn impressive, even if the average post is 4 words long. Truly a massive cultural phenomenon. I really don't like vtubers much at all, but it's nice that a hobby board become so massive in such a short amount of time. This happens like twice a decade so it's a big deal.
No.154087
>>154086>that a hobby boardOn one hand you'd think this is the case, but /vt/ is more 90% drama and very little to do with the actual hobby, if it can really be called that, if memory serves correct.
No.154092
>>154087It's basically the streaming community hiding behind anime avatars. There is a small portion of the board that does look at the hobby and etc. but by and large the people this attracted is why some people have not been back from the bunkers.
No.154093
>>154075>aidschan killing itself even harderGood.
No.154243
>>153908>Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?if you set up a piece of software that uses ip addresses as the way of user identification on a network where ip addresses are meaningless then you obviously need to bring on an application layer method of user identification
for instance, kohlchan allows tor/i2p posting. if you crack an argon2d hash, you get a session. then you can post freely. if you misbehave your session is revoked and you'll have to crack another hash. since argon2d is designed to be painfully slow for cracking, it essentially works as a PoW solution that guarantees the user's anonymity while making it a hassle for troublemakers
of course it won't deter the most egregious spammers but ip bans won't either
No.154335
please enable sage in happening threads.
not all posts are worth a bump.
>>153906some retard on 4/qa/ said that a well-placed wojak would make him laugh uncontrollably. honestly, it's probably impossible for us to understand the minds of 13-year-olds who laugh so hard at wojaks that it brings them to brink of pissing themselves with laughter.
No.154336
>>154335>not all posts are worth a bump.are you referring to the forced sage of the blog and 404 threads?
currently, the opposite mechanic is in effect, and all posts in this thread take it to the top of /qa/
it's bugged in /all/ weirdly enough, the two don't sync
No.154358
>>154335>not all posts are worth a bump.May yours don't, but all my posts are extremely important.
No.154361
>>154335the posters here from a year ago lost the right to sage this thread forever
No.154363
>>154361when will sage jesus come and deliver us from this predicament
No.154464
>>154335>some retard on 4/qa/ said that a well-placed wojak would make him laugh uncontrollably. honestly, it's probably impossible for us to understand the minds of 13-year-olds who laugh so hard at wojaks that it brings them to brink of pissing themselves with laughter.it's honestly adorable
No.154516
I figured since it has been a bit over a month, we should see what has happened to 4chan since he downtime. It seems like overall, 4chan has recovered some pre-hack traffic bu it is still missing around 5000 posts/day of activity and it has plateaued. Looking around at some of the boards, it seems like most has recovered and in fact, some boards have grown. However, if you look at the top four losers from
>>152500, although there has been some recovery, /vg/, /pol/, /vt/ and /a/ have all still declined and have not gotten back the users from pre-hack. Only when you get to /a/ do you see traffic is back to normal largely. Not sure how long this situation will last and if it is because summer is starting but I will keep an eye out for when autumn hits.
No.154522
On the Tor boards, lambdaplusjs has temporarily shut down posting for everyone but the moderators and is brainstorming ways to open back up, possibly less anonymously, without the constant spam.
http://lambdaplusjs35padjaiz4
jw2fugdoeutse262phqr72
uf634s2wdbqd.onion/meta/180863
Some posters have taken refuge at aoichan which was mentioned at
>>153822.
http://i57jbsj7eainn7yzg3vgx2
xjj7nwkbpgvrtxcq5lmcjd
sja23pydfbqd.onion/b/554
Unfortunately the refugees also include the unwanted (by the lambdaplusjs admin) poster known as "/pol/ schizo" (see
>>153908) who has already posted long rants on multiple boards about killing his enemies and their kids. Fortunately, the spammer hasn't followed. In related news, aoichan has merged their /pol/ and /zoo/ boards into "/poo/".
No.154586
>>154464no, it's not. some drooling retard from 4/qa/ said he ate most of a container of multivitamin gummies because they tasted good. that place was a breeding ground for underaged retards still in middle school. (wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were younger though.)
No.154669
>>154586i'm sure those multivitamin gummies tasted great that's why he ate most of the container. the collagen powder i ordered was out so on a whim i bought some collagen gummies and they're delicious. whenever i ate 2 of them i had wanted to eat the rest of them cause the taste was addictive. i actually ordered some other gummies but they aren't even as good.
tl;dr: the vitamin/collagen gummies can taste better than actual gummies.
No.154706
how long has heyuri been deleted for? did the spammer win?
No.154707
>>154706they had trouble with their domain registrar (epik)
they're trying to get it transferred to a different one
No.154711
kissu wins yet another bloodless battle
No.154712
>>154709thats pretty funny. 2d is what actually did them in
No.154743
>>154709ngl they really got better with the LARP, almost makes me nostalgic
>>154518gacha is still pretty active at moe, likely because they don't get wristslapped every 5 threads
No.154744
>posters: 8
>pph: 0
And it's finally dying. There goes my country's old 8ch revival board, we tried our best, but autism was stronger and everyone ended genuinely hated each other by the end. Maybe it will pick back up, but it's getting exponentially slower each week.
No.154745
>>154744How long did it last, or was it just for 4chan's brief death?
No.154748
>>154745the original was one of fullchan's OGs. Died with the site. The revival was made in 2023 and somehow gathered everyone left from there.
But the BO had weird moderation. It just became normal to go cry to him to remove someone was annoying you. Whoever cried more won. And of course, he never moderated politics threads.
No.154752
>>154518I just realized I was dumb and was missing a zero from my first post, I meant 50000 but it's more like 70-80k.
>>154743A lot of more longstanding threads or threads that would get wiped out by the faster speeds are still there and moving a bit. /vyt/ too is pretty active as mentioned but everyone abandoned the /v/ offshoots for the most part from what I have checked.
No.154758
>>154709okay, it's back, assuming the altered DNS entries have propagated for you
new registrar secured
No.154760
>>154744Good. Fuck that reddit place.
No.154761
>>154758yeah, from the front page
>Two days ago, our previous registrar (Epik.com) permanently suspended our domain and banned my account, citing a violation of Code 1466A (a law concerning "obscene" visual representations involving minors, ie. loli pr0nz) - all without any prior notice or warning. They initially intended to permanently seize heyuri.net, and stated their decision was final. However, after some persistence - and citing Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition - I managed to persuade them to allow a domain transfer to a new registrar. Thus Heyuri survives yet another near-death situation. Onward! No.154795
>>154794I wonder where that hat originally came from
No.154796
>>154669Dangerous life hack: take whatever dose of tasteless vitamin pills is right for your lifestyle (but no more), and then treat yourself to a nutritionless snack to reinforce the habit.
No.154797
>>154761>our previous registrar (Epik.com)That's two long, painful falls down the sharp cliffs of the hosting landscape, but let's keep tumbelin' down and see what happens.
No.155352
>>154522Update: Lambdaplusjs re-opened and has been trying various changes to fight the spam, most of which have had limited success. In particular, harsher cooldowns and captchas led to the spammer posting nearly 24/7 while few other people were able or willing (depending on whether cooldowns or captchas were the limiting factor) to post. At the moment, the site is using an improved version of the old /pending/ system. When posts come at an unusually high rate, the posts are collapsed to a stub in threads and don't show up at all in the index, until a moderator reviews them. There has also been an increase in moderator activity, presumably because the mods don't want to see the site forced into going account-only.
About 90% of the posts on Aoichan are now being made by one race-obsessed poster known to others as "/pol/ schizo". Although he makes most of his posts on /poo/, he is not contained there, and fills up the other boards with posts that are not always political but feature similar levels of stupidity and delusion.
No.155374
Seems like 8moe is down due to a DDoS
No.155375
>>155374Nice, I hope these assholes burn.
No.155381
>>155375assblasted
>>155380but do they use the ceremonial marisa hijak pic?
No.155382
>>155381>but do they use the ceremonial marisa hijak pic?Of course not. They're just doing their usual discordniggery nonsense botlike spam, these mouthbreathing retarded subhumans posses not even the illusion of intelligence. One could consider /v/hu to be an """""anime""""" flavored sharty.
No.155400
>>155399The worst feeling in the world is finding a thread on /v/ which has an interesting premise, replying to it seriously, then after scrolling 5 posts realizing it's yet another /v/hu stealth thread.
Every time it happens my hatred grows exponentially.
No.155430
I used to go on /jp/ for the Vocaloid threads but they have become awful over the years.
In other news Sushichan/Sushigirl is down, any clue what happened to it?
No.155431
>>155400I guess I am not the only one. There is genuinely nothing more degrading than walking into a thread that actually asks a good question only to find out it was a /v/hu shitposting thread. I am fucking sick of those people.
No.155473
Seems fags on /bant/ guessed the new 4chan secure tripcode salt.
https://archived.moe/_/search/tripcode/%21%21LuIpev7S7J6/start/2025-04-01/order/asc/Has it leaked somewhere?
No.155474
>>155473I figure its in the documents
No.155475
>>155474Documents? If you mean the hack leaks, the salt got changed after that
No.155476
>>155473>>155474>>155475slight correction: That guy was using a tripcode rolling script to confuse people.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75488152The real culprit of salt guessing is this guy
https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/22757327/#22757990>!!Brock86qeJC>!!cp3TgHlR0QW>!!xHTACKeC+SG>!!Two2A473E5S>!!catxuCNlwYClaims he rolled all this manually, in the span of may. 3 chars I could believe. 4 and 5?
>!!A/NTZmpXRhsThe guy rolling the script also has this unique script.
No.155486
>>155473>>155476There's a reason why everyone is warning against using md5 for security related applications since 20 years ago or so.
No.155492
>>155487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5#SecurityIn the history section above that they mention that other hash functions were recommended over md5 as early as 1996. That it's so easy to crack tripcodes, even "secure" ones, is a practical demonstration of the weaknesses of md5.
No.155493
dumb securitards
No.155497
>>155486>>155492Tripcodes on 4chan do not use MD5. Ordinary tripcodes use DES crypt and the salted ones use SHA-1.
No.155660
>>155380I think they will burn out, sometime soon. On 4/v/ they are hunted down and executed with ever increasing brutal efficiency, while the complete lack of adversity on 4/jp/ should take away part of the charm they yearn for. They are already squabbling between themselves on 4/jp/ and lack of unifying enemy might be the death sentence.
No.155664
>>155660>They are already squabbling between themselves on 4/jp/ and lack of unifying enemy might be the death sentence.you are assuming they aren't just hanging out on some chatroom only making threads when they want to forum games
No.155666
>>155665I believe this is it
>>153744 No.155730
>>155693don't think about it
No.156034
>>155665What will she do with the copper?
I didn't even know you could get it from ponds.
No.156057
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse
According to ma analysis, this is a fake message that happens if you change the geoip region. Your cookie gets flagged as bad and you can't post anymore. Is this correct?
No.156068
>>156057Yes. The leaked source code revealed that 4chan has a system for giving false range bans and shadowbans.
No.156080
>>155380Did you guys saw the last thread before the one that's still up?
What a mess
No.156092
>>156068Using the geoip region (at least I suspect it does) is new.
No.156100
>>156034Pickaxe and hammer are basic tools you need if you want to start with mining and smithing in Vintage Story. Next tool is a prospecting pick that will help you find ore veins that are deeper in the ground and do not have small pieces on the surface to indicate their position.
No.156113
>type only the first 6 characters
Another recent captcha addition?
No.156114
>>156113Also saw "last 5 characters"
I don't know what they want to achieve by this.
No.156239
>>155400>>155431they make stealth threads because mods personally hate anything Touhou related so they even delete actual on topic non-rule breaking posts threads about Touhou vidya. stealth threads are the only way to have even a small chance at discussing Touhou vidya on that board, it's either that or the other shmups threads that also don't want Touhou their because it's a "fake shmup"
No.156395
>>156239¥/v/hu was kicked out of 109 boards, but it was never their fault!You retards literally killed touhou discussion, your threads are garbage even for /v/ standards.
No.156399
I have zero clue why the mods would hate 2hu this side of, say 2014 when every single board is in a general thread chokehold fucking up at least a third of the catalog.
I get disliking hijacks way back in the day for being threads that were really about the threads themselves. At this point though? It's ludicrous to claim be mad on that account when you're letting 33 other generals completely alone to fester in perpetuity.
No.156402
>>156401damn, they've been calling utawarerumono underwater ray romano since kuon was born
No.156403
>>156395>but it was never their fault!>You retards literally killed touhou discussionwhen mods go to the lengths to delete actual on topic threads that aren't breaking rules, then no, it's not exactly their fault. even if you want to point the finger at ritual posters, ecelebfags, etc., it's still not an excuse to go scorched earth. even with all its current problems, at least several people still make an effort to discuss Touhou video games. in fact, there was a thread where somebody held a contest for EoSD to get the lowest score possible on stage 3. non lazy mods would delete the garbage ritual posting and let and on topic posting stay, but they don't because they're lazy and they personally hate anything Touhou and like what this anon said
>>156399, they let numerous other threads with the same problems go unscathed. if touhou threads getting purged from /v/ really was because "generals shouldn't be here", then the other generals would also get purged too, but they don't because mods don't care about being fair and enforcing rules properly, they're power tripping assholes that delete the things that they personally dislike and hurt their feelings and that's it.
No.156406
>Trump involving the USA in yet another war with a country that most burgers couldn't find on a map
How is 4/pol/ taking it?
No.156407
>>156403Aren't those threads 80% eceleb discussion and 20% touhou discussion? I get that touhou is vidya but I don't see anything salvageable from that place
No.156408
>>156406up the butt (didn't visit but I can guess)
No.156409
>>156112It sure as hell counts
No.156415
>>156406They will respond like bots as usual, from everyone else is warmongers to uhm actually it was a good thing america is boss again this is good for oil this is good for america and iran totally had WMD's just like iraq did.
They are not sentient human beings, they await orders from their masters and will parrot it no matter how many times they contradict themselves in a lifetime. Truth does not matter to people to tribalists.
No.156422
Did 4chan stop publishing random bans on /bans?
No.156451
>>156403literal /trash/ general, be yourself cutie
No.156457
>>156422Yes. Mods removed the details of public bans, essentially making the page useless. This change killed 4bans as well.
No.156469
>>156457>This change killed 4bans as well.That's how I noticed. What a dishonest change.
No.156470
>>156457What's the point of keeping that page now? I'm not sure if it ever worked as intended (making you learn what is unacceptable quality by showing examples), but now it doesn't serve even that purpose.
No.156471
>>156470The page was created to make moderation more transparent to the users.
If they just removed the page, it would be like telling the users that they gave up on transparency.
So they made the dishonest decision to keep it in a dysfunctional, useless state. Might have been a compromise between the absolutely dishonest mods, who didn't want the users to see how they bend the rules to ban users they don't like, and mods who don't want to change the status quo because their brains are petrified too far.
No.156491
^ if anyone doesnt believe me about them "scrubbing the site", try to even make a joke about this and the mods remove it within 2 minutes
No.156547
>>156543That's a weird lineup
4-ch is ancient and culturally different to all of those, 39chan is literally a Vocaloid forum, and Fukuoka is...? never heard of that one
No.156562
>>156457Within days of this happening I started getting banned for posting in random threads while breaking no rules. I also stumbled upon some new words that are instant bans. If you attempt posting them you get a 3+ day ban. One of them is a link to an art site where a guy is a critic of modern artists and publishes papers about science stuff. There is absolutely no reason for it to exist on whatever list this is (I assume it's the one for filtering out pizza. Only thing I can think of that would be that harsh). Normally, when I stumble upon random words they've filtered it just doesn't let you post and says it's "spam".
Anyway, it seems I've angered moderation on the two boards I've been poking for the last week. I thought moderation was more lax since the hack because I wasn't getting bothered at all even when posting stuff I knew the moderators disliked but wasn't technically against the rules. But now one is following me around and obviously issuing 3-day bans for things that angered him in other threads. I knew I was arguing with one yesterday because I recognized his typing habits.
I went to the IRC to report the obvious error with that URL and basically got told to fuck off because "this isn't the place to appeal bans". Whenever they don't want to admit to shady shit they just act retarded.
No.156566
>>156562>Within days of this happening I started getting banned for posting in random threads while breaking no rules.That existed before, but now we have to rely on hearsay.
Anyway, the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or something. I have been on 4crap since 2007 or so, but never before have I felt that the moderation is as corrupt as it is now. I stopped defending mods and take every opportunity to point out their kuso behavior.
4chan is literally dead. I don't even know why they brought it back.
No.156568
>>156566>That existed before, but now we have to rely on hearsay.Yes I understand. I'm just saying it wasn't happening as often as before over about the last 2 weeks. I haven't really used it since the hack and I am in a totally new IP range(s) now. Perhaps they just didn't catch on quickly that the same guy was back and fucking around with them again.
>Anyway, the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or something. Indeed.
>I have been on 4crap since 2007 or so, but never before have I felt that the moderation is as corrupt as it is now.Every year is worse than the last. I pine for the days of when it was just /a/ and maybe /a/ and /b/. I miss that sense of freedom and being able to say whatever the fuck you wanted. I don't care if people disagree. I just hate being silenced for speaking my mind because "wrong opinion". Then watching some other guy spew his nonsense all over the place that just happens to have the right opinion. So he's never punished.
To be fair. This isn't exclusively a problem there. It's just more prevalent because there are more eyes on it. Doesn't really matter where you go. There is always some champion of discussion lurking around thinking that everyone else is the real cancer.
If your arguments can't stand without censorship then they aren't worth much at all in my opinion. It isn't hard to simply ignore posts you don't like. Mods shouldn't do anything but delete pizza. Let the users police themselves. This worked fine for decades.
No.156615
>>156614What am I supposed to look at? Bunch of threads with low reply count? Frogs? What's the difference from normal /int/?
No.156616
>>156614The same as every board on 4chan.
No.156617
>>156615I think anon complains that there are women in half of threads op pictures, because int used to be maidenless hangout, how there femoids be there, reee this makes the frog green
No.156619
>>156614What's different? I guess it's lacking a prominent forced meme, but those don't come around very often these days. The last thing I remember them forcing was when 4/qa/ was still around and they were spamming that black and white Chad image. I'm glad that never took off...
Apart from that, it just looks like it suffers from 'generic internet community' syndrome. That could be any board, imageboard, discord or twitter or or whatever. There just aren't many subcultures on the internet these days.
No.156623
I don't use /int/ much but that kind of reminds me of what happened to /k/ a few years ago. /k/ was pretty bad for years but when that Russian war started it was like the board changed over night. Suddenly non-gun political threads were allowed and being posted without any moderation. After like 3 days the board was basically /pol/. It's how that vatnik forced meme got started. The threads about the war were really strange and non-/k/. Instead of people talking about tanks and small arms and drones it was all off topic stuff unrelated to weapons or strategy of war.
I saw the same thing happen to /x/ around the same time. Combination of /pol/ threads and huge uptick in blog posting.
It all reads like the same types of people that changed /pol/'s culture around 2018 or so. Same kind of strategy behind the obvious off-topic BS threads. Flood of bots along with people you could tell hadn't lurked for more than 2 minutes before jumping in to turbo post. Most had to either be jannys or at the very least pass users. Since they were never banned and could by-pass cool down timers. Same kind of things happening in threads as well. They always either replied with rage bait or they would just go off on unrelated tangent. You could tell they were sticking to a script and they always refuse to engage with anything that wasn't on the script.
I'm convinced there are very few real people left on the main boards these days. From time to time the bot farms will stop posting for a bit and when they do the place feels like a ghost town. I'd wager for every real user there are at least 10-30 bots or paid posters now. It's really obvious when they flood in and start posting the same thing over and over again right as a story is breaking in MSM or "going viral" elsewhere. People claim 4chan is now downstream from places like twitter but I don't believe that is really true. Twitter and the other social networks have been around for almost 20 years now. It wasn't until the last couple of years of the 2010s that 4chan was "downstream" from anything. It used to be 24-48 hours ahead of such places. MSM used to be behind and forced to respond to things organically happening on the internet. Now it feels like things are inverted and they're ahead of the internet.
This is my TL:DR way of saying most of the threads on that board at any given time probably aren't real. I imagine anyone that was really into /int/ fucked off to somewhere else long ago.
No.156627
>>156623I miss when /k/ didn't have a dumb war to pick sides on and we could talk about small arms and tanks and shit without someone bringing up stuff on the other side of the planet. I liked sharing my guns and fumo pics with them sometimes.
No.156629
>>156627/k/ and /x/ used to be comfy even after 2014 because they kept the bad stuff to one-two generals. There were tons of tripfags but they kept to their threads.
I knew /k/ was going to get bad when that war started because the flood of outsiders was almost instant. I haven't looked in awhile now but I imagine it never recovered. I know /x/ hasn't.
That seems to be the pattern as of late. Any board that managed to hold together a sense of community gets flooded out one-by-one. I hear the same thing is happening to /toy/ right now. At least I've seen more than a few people complaining about it on other boards.
No.156632
>>156629>>15662320 years ago no one foreseen how vulnerable to misinformation from paid bad faith actors imageboards will be
I'm just happy kissu is kinda maybe slightly holding but the age of anonymous imageboards seems definitely over
No.156633
>>156632It's mainly big online media where this all takes place. You don't really see anything besides typical trolling on alts since it's probably not worth it to the big bot farms or paid bad faith actors to tackle smaller communities. Especially since they can be sniffed out a lot easier without a sea of posters they can hide themselves in.
No.156634
>>156632>he thinks /k/ and /x/ posters are paidProofs?
No.156640
>>156623/k/ is completely unfixable without a rule change that limits the purview of the board to "arms" in the historic Anglo-American militia sense. So long as strategic platforms are allowed on the board they'll continue to be used as a wedge to justify "grand strategy" political posts.
No.156683
>>156640you think people who's food depends on their shitposts will care about the rules?
matter of fact /k/ has been exquisitely moderated. The shills just outposts.
Just in case you don't get it:
There's more more shills than organic posters and it been like this since 2022.
No.156687
>>156683What shills? Just because you're a zigger who feels threatened they're not "shills".
No.156689
>>156634Anyone that used /k/ before the great flood of pro-NATO posters knows the truth
No.156703
>>156629>That seems to be the pattern as of late. Any board that managed to hold together a sense of community gets flooded out one-by-one. I hear the same thing is happening to /toy/ right now. At least I've seen more than a few people complaining about it on other boards.Don’t forget the general population trend for the whole site has been decreasing for years now and there have been no great influxes lately ala 2013 or 2016. Therefore it’s unlikely that outsiders like Twitter users are responsible.
Really what we could be seeing is the cannibalism of the remaining userbase by the neo-4chan cult-ure. There’s no one single bogeyman but a collection of various groups and individuals responsible. Ranging from corporate shills to discord groups to government agencies to brainwashed /pol/sharts to the site administration. The one saving grace is there’s no unified front and they all have conflicting interests.
Maybe if the boards managed to band together like /qa/ they could pushback against this.
No.156710
>>156689They were always here. The war only made them speak out.
No.156775
>>156710Probably but that doesn't change the fact that it happened over night. There had been plenty of NATO vs. other countries wars over the years. /k/ mostly just stuck to talking about weapon systems on either side and light banter about which was better. /k/ always had its fans of Soviet era/Russian hardware and even had a somewhat pro-Russian slant during other conflicts. But when this war was announced there was a flood of obviously new people spamming every thread about it. They refused to keep it contained to one thread. Then they refused to keep it contained in just one thread when there was an attempt to force them to co-exist. I'd been using /k/ for a long time and I never saw anything like it on that board ever.
Sure there were annoying tripfags in the AR and AK generals and the attention whores. But they were the kind of tripfag attention whores that showed up to meet-ups dressed in cosplay and cummed in the brownies. They weren't the kind that shit all over their own home.
/k/ changed so quickly that I went from lurking it for over a decade to not visiting it at all within the span of like 5 days. That's how drastic the shift was.
No.156777
>>156775>Then they refused to keep it contained in just one thread when there was an attempt to force them to co-exist.I should be more clear. They refused to co-exist within one general for the war thread. In the past any board would have no allowed what happened on /k/. Where there were two generals for the same topic comprised of people talking about the same thing just rooting for a different 'team'. If this had not been allowed they would have probably burned themselves out and would have been contained within just another general. No doubt new tripfags would have been born as well. But the rest of the board would have been safe as it had been for years. /k/ was always good about containing its cancer.
By allowing both sides to have their own general they not only shit up their own threads but also every other thread. Used to be you could ignore the AR/AK general(s) and use the rest of the board in peace.
Also before anyone says it. No AR/AK generals having their own threads wasn't the same as having two for a war. /k/ never really had generals for wars. War hardware? Yes. War news? Sure. But there was never really a "Talk about the war and spam memes between happenings" thread. When something was blown up or a major offensive happened /k/ would talk about it for awhile. Mostly in a non-political context. Otakus salivating over hardware they'll never own/run and that sort of thing. Or tactics. But never general 'link to MSM and spam memes' threads. In fact, that stuff was expected to be hosted off the board (ideally /pol/) to prevent weapon otaku from being flooded out. Which is exactly what happened.
There is nothing to replace what /k/ was on the internet either. Every other place where you can talk about /k/ stuff is flooded with the type of people you don't want to discuss /k/ stuff with.
No.156778
>>156689>>156629It's just appalling what happened to /k/
And OPchan is long dead too.
No.156783
>calling it a NATO war
You wouldn't complain if /k/ was pro russia. I guarantee it. You dishonest retards are too obvious.
No.156804
Ukraine/Russia war just makes me sad for both sides
No.156805
I don't believe in saging.
No.156832
>>156804This war ruined so many russian speaking online communities, and internet in both Ukraine and Russia became much more divided, with both sides block each other while strengthening own echo bubbles, so I basically can't feel comfortable there.
Not surprised it did damage to other places aswell.
No.156888
>>156800dicks out and masturbate too; I know you want it, anon. It's ok, no one will learn; you don't have to pretend to retain moral high ground.
No.156890
>>156888Maybe you can't take the high ground but I can, projector.
No.156979
>>156689I'm telling you I quit using /k/ in 2011 because it was too Neo-Con.
There's always been some libertarian (mostly over how literally dicks in their ass gay they always were) bent to /k/ but the establishment water carriers were too me absolutely intolerable over a decade ago.
I'm sure it's worse now just simply due to the establishment being itself crazier relative to 2011, and I can see in 4stats /k/ has disproportionately bled users so it's probably created a selection effect where the crazies are even more concentrated as a proportion of the site.
But as far as I'm concerned /k/'s degradation is linear and a longstanding process.
No.157008
>>156979>the establishmentYou act as if evil people with money and political power are a monolith, which is objectively wrong. Le culture war exists in large part
because they aren't a monolith.
No.157018
>>157016>Don't be a fagWords to live by.
No.157019
>Tel_Aviv_University
I've heard stuff like how Epstein was involved in Israeli politics as well.
No.157033
>>157016>username “joebidennnn69” >hebefagkek what a fag
No.157036
>>157020
What does this have to do with imageboards?
No.157044
>>157016Despite my usual low opinion of the 4mods they were wise to get rid of those kik threads finally.
Or, maybe it was only directly because of this case.
No.157059
what happened to ota
No.157060
>>157059not sure what you mean ths site's up
No.157061
cert expired keepin the norms out
No.157063
>>157059Their HTTPS expired but its still accessible
No.157066
>>157065
Why do you think this is something worth posting? Do people really need to read a detailed description of cp in this thread? Christ, get some common sense.
No.157070
>>157066Being right on internet is more important.
No.157481
How realistic is the claim that shitposters get protected or protect themselves by rogue jannies?
No.157482
>>157481Pretty realistic.
No.157483
>>157481i never believe them unless direct proof is posted
unprovable theorizing just makes you go schiz
No.157484
>>157482Elaborate.
>>157483Even some of the widely accepted stuff is unproven.
The recent leak never leaked the entire database, right? It would have shown who banned what.
No.157498
>>157481mods are more likely to do it than jannies, but it's less protect and more "enable in order to spite someone else"
No.157501
>>156775after magaman won in 2016 a LOT, and I mean a LOT of western money was redirected to try and control narratives on the Internet, because that's basically how he won.
They were some 10 to 15 years late, Russians and Chinese were already doing this
However westerners are crippled on this endeavour because it's more or less proven that the only ways to control a narrative is silencing inconvenient speakers, and they can't exactly expropriate reddit, twitter or 4chan.
Ergo all the shilling you see on /k/. All wasted taxpayer money trying to convince people who will never, ever change their opinion.
No.157502
>>156614/int/ was propped up by discovery culture. After they ran out of obscure country trivia to discover, the only things left to do on /int/ were blogging on general or /soc/ / feels posting on the front page.
No.157505
>>157484>Elaborate./dbs/ quite literally exists out of spite. even jannies on /j/ call this out and say they are being made to moderate a general that does nothing but shitpost when doing that gets other threads topic banned very fast.
No.157570
>>157481It has been proven over and over again throughout the years I've been on the internet that mods have been doing this since forever. They did it on BBSs, they did it on USENET, the did it on Fidonet, they did it on forums, they do it on imageboards and it happens on major "platforms" like youtube.
I'm not sure if you even lurked /cow/ but the youtube mafia of "trusted reporters" and whatever they call mods were exposed multiple times. They all hung out together in the same chats/private email lists/boards together and they covered for each other. That's why all the "influencers" covered the same things and released videos about those things within hours of each other. That's why important "influencers" could get away with doing things that would normally get someone small banned. That's why any small channels that exposed such people got insta-banned. That's why "influencers" that got strikes could get them easily overturned and go on like it never happened. Similar leaks happened with twitch, twitter and yes even 4chan and 8ch multiple times in the past. Never mind the things our Japanese friends on their communities have exposed over the years about mods and admins selling out and datamining them.
>>157483No proof is ever good enough for you people. Also if done carefully it's usually impossible to prove most anything. Much can be learned through simple speculation and common sense. All one has to do is see the patterns.
Take /g/ for example. Same shit bait threads posted everyday for years. Mod caught doing it multiple times. But point it out and post the proof. Enjoy your ban and enjoy being called a "schizo".
I've personally been run off both /g/ and /a/ multiple times simply because I tried talking about something the mod or the mod's friend dislikes. These people have google alerts set-up to instantly notify them when certain names and phrases are posted anywhere on the internet. They even have it linked to their private chats so they can dogpile in to "control the narrative". When that fails they just ban anyone that speaks out or flood the place with bots and/or pizza. If admin or mod is involved (usually are) they'll pass along your IP address in an attempt to dox you as well. They'll even go as far as DDOS'ing it to prevent you from using the internet at all.
Just find something they dislike and try to talk about it if you don't believe me. Leave them bread crumbs to faked social media accounts to follow and maybe get yourself a residential IP address that's easy to set-up honeypot behind. I've routed my posts through one before then waited and watched to see what would happen. Next thing you know they're posting the faked social media accounts name/info in the thread in an attempt to scare you and they're running through every script kiddie tool on the planet attempting to pwn what they think is your real PC. It's very sad and pathetic but that's the world we live in.
Don't ask me why people are like this. I will never understand it myself. They have a massive need for attention and they're willing to sell their soul for paper. It's sad and we'd all be better off without them. They are the exact kind of people that shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near a device with internet access. They're the exact kind of people that refused to use the internet until social media became a thing.
If you think they're nasty to anons you should see how they talk about their "fans" and people that send them money. I've sneaked into their private chats before. Trust me. They aren't shy about letting everyone know how they feel about the "idiots" that send them money and make them rich.
No.157576
>>157570>Mod caught doing it multiple times. But point it out and post the proof. Enjoy your ban and enjoy being called a "schizo".You can post it here. Please do so.
>I've personally been run off both /g/ and /a/ multiple times simply because I tried talking about something the mod or the mod's friend dislikes. Like what, on /a/?
No.157579
>>157576>You can post it here. Please do so.I forget the mods name but he was doxed long ago. He basically posts the bait threads about how Linux/FOSS is garbage and Apple is great 20 times a day. If you lurk when he's asleep there is at least one dedicated anon that posts his dox from time to time. But he has to be really creative because there is no fewer than 9,000 filtered versions of the mod's name in the word filters.
There are some other no-no topics you flat out can't discuss as well. But I'm not going to talk about them here right now because if I posted them here it would attract the kind of attention I know the admin doesn't want.
>Like what, on /a/?If you talk about who's running Nyaa/Seadex/private trackers expect a flood of outsiders dogpiling. If you post proof of what they're doing expect at least a 3-day ban. They like 3-day bans because you can't appeal them and the mod can get away with lying around the real reason they banned you.
Again I don't want to go into too much detail. For what it's worth. If you point out the private tracker thing and the seadex/nyaa thing on /g/ they dogpile on you there too. But at least the thread usually gets to 20 posts from what I suspect are real people before the mod comes along and deletes it for being "off-topic".
There is a lot of stuff like that you can't talk about and that different groups of idiots have a tight grip on. For example, the group mentioned above that controls modern "fansubbing" has been making lots of money selling nyaa accounts for years now. At least $100-$500 for an account. Which costs them nothing to create from the admin panel. They claim registration is closed for pizza spam while having at least 25 or more moderators. So wtf are they even doing?
Similarly, these same people have gotten their groups auto-listed in all the *arr software above actual groups. They also run the "private" torrent trackers. Which are somehow "private" despite being promoted on reddit, /g/ and a million other places and discussed openly everyday. If you point out that it's impossible to secure and make the torrent protocol "private" they gaslight and dogpile and accuse you of being some kind of federal agent and/or claim you're "butthurt" because "you can't get in". As if passing an interview on IRC is hard or something. They also really hate it if you point out how easy it is to use USENET/IRC to get the same content faster. Or how anyone can ghost leech off these "private" torrents without them being able to do anything about it.
A few weeks ago I ate a multi-month ban for teaching anons on /g/ how to ghost leech from private trackers. Since they can build ratio easily if they're already members and their friends can download anything from the tracker without an account as long as you share the torrent's hash with them. It isn't even hard information to find. It has been on the installgentoo wiki for years. Which used to be used by a lot of /g/entlemen before this current batch of mods took the place over sometime in the mid-2010s.
Same thing happened when we all fled to /tech/ before the great purge of websites in late 2019. Similar group (probably the same people) weaseled their way into mod positions on that board and shut down open discussion. So we fled again...and again...and again...until eventually there was only like 3 of us left and it became impossible to attract any new blood.
There are a lot of topics like that on different boards that are basically instant ban and/or harassment/flood by dedicated groups. Last week I found yet another link that's on 4chan's instant ban list. No spam warning or anything. Just instant 3-day ban and claim that you were attempting to post cheese pizza. The website is simply some dude's blog where he talks about /sci/ and /art/ stuff.
No.157580
>>156566>the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or somethingA few days ago I saw a legit poster with 100+ posts get nuked from a thread because he somehow indirectly triggered a scat spamming IP hopping nigger
No.157585
>>157579>But I'm not going to talk about them here right nowSo it's shitposting and you're afraid of getting called out even here, where the mods have no power.
>If you talk about who's running Nyaa/Seadex/private trackersThat just goes into plain doxxing territory, and is an asshole move to begin with. Good work, mods.
>The website is simply some dude's blogWhich you can't post here because...
No.157586
>>157580Sometimes they wipe entire IP sub nets. I know because I annoyed a mod once by resetting my IP at least 10 times. Then I got bored of it and got a new IP one last time, and started posting normally. When they did the range wipe, my recent posts from my new IP got deleted, but I wasn't banned and could continue posting.
No.157587
>>157570> Much can be learned through simple speculation and common sense. All one has to do is see the patterns.tldr it’s all pure speculation and delusion that exists only in your head. You claim to have seen all these proofs and private chats yet you never posted any logs and dodge all requests.
Same goes to your “multimedia OS”. You blog it everywhere including places like frenschan yet nowhere have you posted any demo or screenshots of it. It literally doesn’t exist, just like all of your shizobabblings.
No.157593
>>157585>So it's shitposting and you're afraid of getting called out even here, where the mods have no power.I've explained several times that if you mention certain keywords and link to certain things it draws in people no matter where it's posted on the web. Do you really want me bringing that here just to prove you wrong? (you are wrong by the way)
>That just goes into plain doxxing territory, and is an asshole move to begin with. Good work, mods.First, it's not "doxxing".
Second, posting proof that the people running such places are openly hostile and profiting off things that should be free/done for the love is not "doxing". Posting screenshots of what they openly discuss in public is not "doxing". The mods only ban such things because the exact people that were being shown to do these shady things were posting in the thread much as you are now. Claiming everyone is crazy and lying while openly linking to the thread in their chat room and sending in the dogs to shit the place up. Just like they openly admit to ddos'ing any and all nyaa clones they don't personally control. Like nyaa.pantsu. It's almost like they're doing it for profit and to be a bunch of faggots isn't it?
>Which you can't post here because...Because it's off topic and if you'd bothered to lurk you'd already know what I'm referencing.
>>157586I too have gotten entire regions range banned simply for posting things within the rules that the mod disliked and falsely banned me over. It's particularly annoying when they're throwing around insults left and right then turn around and swing a ban hammer because you quoted them. Once they slide the first unjust ban in they can always claim you're "ban evading" going forward. The rules are never applied fairly and haven't been for many years.
>>157587Ah I see you're the exact kind of person I was talking about. Makes sense. "Everyone I don't like is the same person". Who's delusional now?
It's almost like there are people getting paid to follow someone around the web everywhere isn't it? That or you have no life. Either way you can't argue in good faith so you have to resort to doing stuff like this.
Pro-tip: spazzing out like this doesn't lend you any credibility and you're fooling no one. You'd be better off not responding at all. But you can't help yourself.
No.157596
I choose to believe him
No.157605
>>157596If you want an instant 3 day ban try posting this:
https://mileswmathis.com/or maybe it's the direct link to this:
https://mileswmathis.com/hiller.pdfI haven't tested if it was the entire domain or just the link to that pdf or one of the other 4 I attempted to post in a reply to an anon on /g/ that asked for direct links. I honestly think it was the mod baiting me now.
As to why I was posting such a think on /g/ in the first place: Threads drift off topic and they'd already been going at it for hours by that point.
Friendly reminder that I don't believe everything I read. In fact, I believe little of it.
No.157606
>>157593> Do you really want me bringing that here just to prove you wrong?Please do so. “They” already know about this place and the fact that you post here anyway, if they want to stop you from posting here they would have done it already.
But I doubt you have any proof to provide at all.
> Who's delusional now?It’s fact and I am correct. You are the same person who is posting about OpenBSD, and multiple long posts recently here on /maho/. Otherwise you would have denied directly that you are not that person. You have the chance right now to prove that I’m wrong. Just say you’re not the same person directly.
But the fact that you mentioned
> follow someone around the web everywhereYou admitted it yourself. I am following the person on /g/ OpenBSD thread and the fact that you brought this out of nowhere is the admission of guilt.
And it doesn’t matter what kind of person I am. It doesn’t make my points wrong. You can’t refute what I have said regarding proofs.
No.157607
>>157606You are annoying and obvious. Please go away.
No.157608
>>157607> Please go away.No.
And yes I am annoying to you. So what? You’re the same except to everyone here not interested to your schizo posting.
No.157610
>>157606So just so we're clear.
You're claiming anon is crazy and there aren't dedicated idiots following people around the web just to annoy people. Your proof is you're a dedicated idiot following someone around the web just to annoy them?
No.157611
>>157610> You're claiming anon is crazyYes because he refuses to provide proofs with lame excuses.
> and there aren't dedicated idiots following people around the web just to annoy people.Don’t put words in my mouth. Read again:
>>157587> Your proof is you're a dedicated idiot following someone around the web just to annoy them?I followed him and gathered evidences, which substantiates my claim that he’s doing the same schizo thing with his “multimedia OS”.
No.157612
>>157605Lame. Everyone already knows there are banned links from the whole /cumg/ exodus. I can do the same right now and get a ban and post banned screenshot.
Put on the real meat. Oh, I forgot you don’t have any to show!
No.157613
>>157484>Elaborate.There's a mod on /tg/ that keeps fucking with the OSR threads because he wants to talk about the V2 version of it or something.
This is all second-hand by the way but I choose to believe it.
No.157614
>>157613look upon this thread and see the fruits of such belief
No.157615
>>157614I don't browse 4chan so I don't really give a shit about the state of /tg/, so why would I need to look above.
I know that it happens, this fucking website is the fruit of mod-fuckery when you think about it.
No.157616
>>157612Anon says the people running private trackers, seadex and nyaa are abusing mod powers to silence people on two boards. You come along and bring up one of the few places that link directly to them by name. Anon says those people attempt to dox and follow people they dislike around. You come along and try to intimate anon by suggesting you've read his posts elsewhere.
Call me crazy. But I'm starting to believe. The truth is out there.
You also seem pretty mad.
No.157618
caught a glimpse of that deletion
No.157619
>>157570>No proof is ever good enough for you people. I believe your conflict of interest claims when there's money involved. quinn and gamejornopros was proofs. But extrapolating this to "EVERY SINGLE CIRCLEJERK ON THE INTERNET IS PLOTTING" is stretching the definition of conflict of interest to the point of retardation.4chan like all forums was created and sustained by a single clique that insisted on it until a fandom formed. 4chan had Raspberry Heaven 22 years ago and even thought there's exactly one (1) person left from that clique still on team 4chan, the culture they fostered is still intrinsically part of site moderation to this day.
This isn't a conspiracy. It's how internet communities work. They don't form spontaneously and there will always be a "first among peers" by design.
No.157621
>>157579>There is a lot of stuff like that you can't talk about and that different groups of idiots have a tight grip on. For example, the group mentioned above that controls modern "fansubbing" has been making lots of money selling nyaa accounts for years now. At least $100-$500 for an account. Which costs them nothing to create from the admin panel. They claim registration is closed for pizza spam while having at least 25 or more moderators. So wtf are they even doing?>Similarly, these same people have gotten their groups auto-listed in all the *arr software above actual groups. They also run the "private" torrent trackers. Which are somehow "private" despite being promoted on reddit, /g/ and a million other places and discussed openly everyday. If you point out that it's impossible to secure and make the torrent protocol "private" they gaslight and dogpile and accuse you of being some kind of federal agent and/or claim you're "butthurt" because "you can't get in". As if passing an interview on IRC is hard or something. They also really hate it if you point out how easy it is to use USENET/IRC to get the same content faster. Or how anyone can ghost leech off these "private" torrents without them being able to do anything about it.Aaah you are part of the torrent hatefandom. makes sense.
having been part of what.cd and currently redacted I've come across a bunch of permahaters like you before. Nothing anyone ever says will satisfy you except the news of the tracker ecosystem just disappearing. Not that you can think of a better replacement or that somehow the people who set up the infrastructure and spent time and money making it work are not justified in trying to make ends meet.
I do concede some of them are disingenous. But your ethical framework and interpretation of what's actually happening is frankly retarded.
>A few weeks ago I ate a multi-month ban for teaching anons on /g/ how to ghost leech from private trackers.Ever considered that you are a known evader and your browser has likely been fingerprinted to track your antics? Because that breaks 0 rules and I could go right now talk about it and not get banned.
No.157622
>>157593>I've explained several times that if you mention certain keywords and link to certain things it draws in people no matter where it's posted on the web.We were talking about 4chan and how the mods abuse their position. There are no 4chan mods in power here, even if they should bother to lurk and post here.
>and profiting off things that should be free/doneWell, they do provide the servers for torrenting or publishing torrents.
>and if you'd bothered to lurk you'd already know what I'm referencing.I'm lurking a lot but don't know what you mean. I know some autobanned sites on 4chan, but they're all fucking cancer. Even if I don't support the mods' general bullshit, I support those autobans.
No.157623
>>157593>I too have gotten entire regions range bannedRegion bans (sub net bans) are not the same as sub net post wipes.
No.157627
>>157605Yeah the first URL leads to "Error: Your post contained banned text." and a 3 day ban for " Error: Your post contained banned text."
No.157643
>>157619>>157621>>157622Thank you for bringing voice of reason to this discussion, anon. Even if there was some truth in his words, it had been severely distorted by his warped perception to the point that it’s better to disregard them completely until some other confirmations appear.
No.157662
>>157643I agree fellow anonymous poster. Everyone is insane but me since I happen to know everything.
No.157667
>>157662Everyone is sane, except you.
No.157763
>>157662I didn't make that post and I was one (1) of the quoted posts.
No.158152
The guy that invented >tfw, aka Wojak, has been forcefully committed.
https://kohlchan.net/int/res/26571100.html No.158153
>>158152I last saw anything from him years ago when he posted vacation photos from Egypt.
Sort of a weird place to go.
No.158154
>>158153Traveling to Egypt is one of those status symbol things.
They don't actually give a damn about the pyramids or contemporary Egyptian history and 1800s culture. Just a thing to cross off on a list of accomplishments.
No.158166
Someone bought kind.moe and 2kind.moe and seems to be creating a /kind/ archive/bunker
No.158205
>>158166The way its worded on the site makes it sound like it's going to be both a /kind/ imageboard and an archive of what was on the original site. If so I wonder if they'll split from Wapchan or keep both running separately.
No.158209
>>158166I'll have to pass along the back up of the previous site.
>>158205It just says it will be a bunker. /kind/ has moved around a lot since the 8chan days, and I think the previous bunker is dead. I do think /kind/ is best as it's own site however.
No.158214
>>158205I wish there was a practical way for admins/community members to establish their identity across domains without doxing themselves, as a quick way to establish trust/reputation in situations like these.
There's GPG, but speaking from experience, most people can't wrap their heads around that no matter how you explain it.
Then again, I wasn't around for the original /kind/, so maybe I'm overskepticizing this and the decision to take up the mantle is proof enough.
No.158216
>>158214>I wish there was a practical way for admins/community members to establish their identity across domains without doxing themselves, as a quick way to establish trust/reputation in situations like these.umm blockchains or something, idk
No.158217
>>158216It's funny because the blockchain meme is easier to explain at face value to the uninitiated, but what it ACTUALLY does in terms of restructuring power relations is even harder to explain than GPG.
No.158220
>>158214As far as i know the creator of the original kind.moe is an admin on Wapchan and knows figamin so both of them are likely aware of it
No.158223
>>158220Best case scenario. Proceed accordingly.
No.158231
>>158214A decent amount of imageboard admins do keep in touch using various means as far as I'm aware (figamin and syrno are both in the kissu steam group after all)
>>158209Maybe but it's hard to say if this new admin can be trusted to actually run the site continuously and not just randomly shut it down like the old sites had. I'd say to let wapkind and kind.moe coexist for the time being.
No.158310
>>158256I don't know all the prerequisite schizolore to make this make sense.
No.158313
>>158310There were two threads about the same anime at the same time. The schizo didn't like one of the threads. The schizo copy pasted two posts from the other thread into this thread and changed them to reflect his opinion. (Notice the added schizo shorthands which barely anyone knows.) 4 minutes later, the original posts got deleted.
It could be a coincidence, but it's very strange timing. They say he's actually a janny, but that doesn't really make sense to me either.
No.158382
The 4chan captcha and timer configuration after the downtime is like a sweet spot that makes it easier for shitposters and harder for potentially new honest users.
It's amazing.
No.158470
The 4mods both snicker at schizophrenics being ever so wrong about what the 4mods are up to but then they proceed to cry real tears over how the schizophrenics are confederated against them spamming the boards with their every so wrongness.
It seems to me poetic justice for their policy of radical opacity. Incredibly outmoded opacity that has its roots in moot's bruised ego over snack's notoriety but I digress.
No.158474
holy negated sageroli
No.158482
Obviously there are two types of jannies:
>the overworked retard on pointless whack-a-mole duty who quits soon
>the schizo who became janny to protect his own shitposts
Is this too shortsighted? Any other types?
No.158504
>>158482You forgot
>The federal agent No.158505
>>158214Just need to GPG and sign with it when required. The /kind/ admin should be familiar with it since I know he chatted with other admins that used them for warrant canaries.
No.158515
Is 4chan down again?
No.158516
>>158515Yep. Approximately 20 minutes ago.
It, came back as I wrote this, wtf?
No.158523
>>158516>came back as I wrote this, wtf?They're watching you pee. I was lurking yesterday and it was throwing random 502 errors now and again. I wonder if they're under attack or if they've changed something on their back end. I've noticed posting rates are way down compared to when I last used it pre-hack. Some boards feel like they only have 3 people using them despite being some of the faster boards pre-hack.
I know they changed something a few days ago because I saw people complaining that they couldn't upload .webm anymore. But they quietly fixed it.
No.158525
Getting connection timeouts, but it seems others can post sometimes.
No.158526
>>158525Came to post this myself. I managed to reply to one thread I was lurking but I can't reply to anything else. The one time I could post it said connection error but "100%" in the form. When I F5'd my post was there but I can't reply anywhere else.
No.158527
4chan is so fragile, every downtime could be the final downtime.
No.158528
>>158527It isn't really fragile. It's average early 2000s php code. The issue is no one bothered to re-write portions of it over the years as PHP got better features and deprecated older functions that used to be the standard way people did things. Not really surprising considering moot never could into code and they'd managed to chase away every admin that could over the years.
No.158529
Seems like they're doing something because now posting isn't working at all for me. I wonder if it's only letting you post after solving captcha the first time but afterwards it isn't letting you post at all. Something probably broken with the DB.
No.158530
>>158528The technical side doesn't really matter. Given enough motivation, anyone would wade through that sea of shit code. Major banks still rely on shit like COBOL and make big money off it.
No.158531
>>158530I'd be willing to wade through it and bring it up to modern PHP standards. PHP was really bad during version 3.x/4.x. A bit better in 5.x but it didn't really get good until version 7.x and was much improved by version 8.x. All the code for 4chan was written around the 3.x to 4.x switch. So the code base has nothing from the improvements in 5.x+. Which includes all the OOP stuff and a ton of improvements to things like array handling.
It also uses a lot of old methods for interacting with mySQL through the old php functions for that. So there is tons of places where you could do things like XSS. Which was very common in that era because so many people that had never used a proper RMDBS were learning how to write SQL for the first time.
There was a time when I'd even done it for free. But now they'd have to pay me a living wage to re-write everything. Which is probably why it'll never be improved considering they don't seem to want to pay anyone to help out. Plus I'd hate to see them attempt to modernized it. I know they'd attempt to turn it into modern social media and add a bunch of javascript. It's already bad enough that you have to enable it to use the catalog.
No.158533
>>158531>OOP>goodUh...
>and add a bunch of javascriptThey already did when the internal "extension" was added, which pretty much cloned some 4chan-x features. I blame the decline of 4chan on the auto-update function, that became widely available because of this, and sped up posting.
No.158534
Ah posting is fixed now.
No.158537
>>158533>Uh...I don't like OOP and php's OOP wasn't true OOP when it was introduced in version 5.x. But a lot of good things were included in that version 5.x update. For example, using the "OOP" functions they added you could manage loading assets/files containing custom functions much easier. The ability to group functions within classes was also very nice. It also got a much improved interface to MySQL/PostgreSQL based around the classes. Along with tons of other stuff I'll spare you the long post about.
OOP doesn't have to be bad in practice. The issue with it is when people get dumb and make things go 20 objects deep for stuff that could have been done with one function+3 lines of code. There is a happy middle ground between what people normally do with OOP and not using those techniques at all. If you use the OOP stuff in PHP while coding like you normally would without it then it's very nice for a lot of things. Like loading functions globally or per-script. You can also do stuff like lazy loading and building a templating system around it and it's much better than attempting to do without it.
PHP gets a bad rap these days due to all the kuso code first time programmers wrote when it first got popular and started replacing perl around php version 3.x. PHP is actually a very nice language to work with now provided you avoid a lot of the legacy stuff it still has due to backwards compatibility with old scripts. I still use PHP these days when I write stuff for the web. I don't see much reason to switch or learn anything else. Already got burned on that when Ruby on Rails was supposed to be the next big thing for the web.
>>158534Indeed. Working for me too.
No.158540
What would you do first if you gained permanent, full control over 4chan?
Me:
>put "anime website" everywhere and state that 4chan shall return to being a hobby website
>troll big cancer magnets like /pol/, /biz/, /int/ to death
>make moderation completely open: deleted posts remain as stub with reason for deletion or ban, with a hashed mod ID visible
>fire mods and jannies who abuse their powers
No.158541
>>158540I'd get rid of every moderator and janny. I'd bring the IP counter back. I'd ban every pass user for 3 days. I'd crack down hard on bots posting. I'd make a rule that generals were no longer allowed on any board. I'd put my waifu under the banners. I'd ban all marketing partners. Various misc. bug fixes and improvements.
Then I'd put a link in the footer asking for donations in both crypto and digital payment options. I'd set-up a P.O. Box and accept cash payments and request anon to send gifts.
I'd run monthly events that would rotate between different boards. Some of these would allow boards to form teams to play against each other. I'd also add a livestream page and hold weekly streams where anons could chat with each other while retro anime or shows from new ad partners were shown. Maybe see if we could work out something exclusive and have anons fund it.
No.158551
>>158540Announce its closure in 10-15 days, maybe invent a schizo story about how 4chan will shut down because I refused to work with feds and how [insert hated mod] was a fed all this time.
Monitor how each board reacts and migrates to alternative sites (or builds them).
Secretly apply as a mod in some of these sites to get a closer look on them.
Maybe even launch my own chan with boards of my liking and boards that didn't manage to find a new place.
No.158580
Whatever happened to 4chan recently, but deleted threads don't get shown as deleted by auto update again.
Fix it Mr S.
No.158645
>>156629> Any board that managed to hold together a sense of community gets flooded out one-by-one.yeah, it's happening right now in /cm/ with a persistent spammer trying to derail the shota threads that have been there for as long as the board
No.158646
>>158540>rule 777. This is an Anime Website and anyone hating on it will be bannedThere, you just get every retarded shartoid and /pol/troon banned.
I'd also have the filters updated and
make all bans public No.158648
>>158646For someone claiming to hate them I find it odd how you use their language.
No.158650
>>158648That's what exposure does.
No.158651
>>158646>make all bans publicThat's what I wrote. Deleted posts remain as stubs, which only show why it got banned (what rule), and who banned it (mod/janny ID hash).
No.158652
>>158651stubs are shit, because it inevitably encourages curiousness and replying to deleted bait
No.158653
>>158652There's also the problem of spam. But consider that many users run 4chan-x or other shit that shows deleted posts by using the archive.
Solvable problems, but as long as it's a pipedream, it doesn't matter.
Also, the 8chan method of a separate, barely readable mod log is shit.
No.158654
>>158652Most public bans are literally full of replies mocking the banned though. It'd for sure derail a thread.
No.158655
>>158654only because of incompetent moderation that takes 5 hours to ban a post, the poster blatantly ban evading 5 minutes later, and everyone only entering the thread to shitpost with all attempts to keep to the topic considered weird
nobody who actually wants to be on-topic will reply to an off-topic bait
it's just baiters baiting baiters, 98% of the userbase needs to be banned since they treat all boards and threads like a giant shitter
No.158656
>>158654They would be hidden by default, such as a stub, maybe with an option that you need to use to unhide stubs.
Also, users would get used to it.
No.158657
>>158655>>158656What would you do with samefagging? I'd not immediately ban you for it but maybe add an option to reveal if the poster is samefagging or not? Imagine sending a request to janny to tell if the post is a samefag or something.
No.158658
>>158657Yes. On that user's posts I'd display an ID derived from the user-agent and maybe some other information, like a light fingerprint. And then I'd show that ID on all other posts with matching ID too.
Might be a bad idea because of false positives, but fuck IP hopping schizos.
No.158659
>>158657immediate ban for samefagging
I prefer to have a 100% transparent view myself of who's posting what where, pseudo-anonymity is only for intra-user interaction
No.158664
>>158663I think he's too strict, samefagging is bad when it is with ragebaiting faggots, but I don't think it really matters for shitposters, since it's obvious and is only barely more obnoxious.
No.158668
>>158664The issue is if you start getting heavy handed banning the shitposters they switch tactics and try to get banned on purpose to prevent real users from being able to access the board. Damned if you do damned if you don't.
Which is why it's best to encourage users to ignore things they don't like and not feed the shitposters. Same goes for the mods: They should stay out of arguments no matter how much the shitposters are concern trolling about the state of the board.
No.158684
>>158670I think it's either the same guy, or two people being retarded. I'm talking about the guy posting about the "true aesthetic beauty of boys that totally isn't homosexual" who made that new straight thread and insists that the homo board is straight now, and the guy that keeps advertising that ban evasion site and uses buzzwords while baiting because shitting up threads when people want to post cute boys is a constitutional right apparently.
You might also be referring to myself, I've also shat on women n that thread.
>>158668This can be solved by having a more complex system to track users on the backend side.
>>158668Nobody is capable of ignoring these days, a single guy or even the guy himself samefagging will reply and the thread will get derailed. Only bans can solve the problem with trash posters.
No.158689
>heavy off-topic debate in an off-topic thread
>report a couple of off-topic posts I don't like
>mod doesn't delete the reported posts but deletes and bans OTHER off-topic posts that they don't like
No.158694
This thread is not for your moaning about whatever the jannies have personally done to you recently.
No.158704
Are you alive britbong bros?
No.158715
>>158540Actual answer? Because I've thought about this.
1. Fire most if not all of the people working there currently and replace them with people who are actually competent. I'm not necessarily going to axe everyone, there might be people there who are doing good work, but they'd need to prove their worth very quickly in order for me to keep them on.
2. Move the site to a new backend. Care would be taken to ensure that the user experience changes as little as possible, but we are not keeping Yotsuba.
3. Cut down the number of boards significantly. Less notable and/or redundant boards will either be merged together, replaced with something more worthy of existing as its own board, subsumed into existing boards that serve the same purpose, or some combination of the three. For example, /trash/ will be converted into /fur/, because that's really the only significant use it has that isn't covered by other boards, [s4s] and /bant/ will be merged into /wsb/, since that's basically what both of them are used for, and all of the /v/ spinoffs (save maybe /vp/, and even then that's a maybe) will be closed and their users sent to /b/. Outright harmful boards like /pol/ will also be straight up deleted.
4. Split the rules into two sections, rules and guidelines. The former would be obvious stuff, like don't spam, don't doxx people, don't post anything illegal, etc. The latter would consist of things like "avoid sensitive political topics", where you're allowed to break them, but only conditionally and at moderator discretion, discouraging certain content while still allowing some of if provided people are willing to behave themselves. The "rules" section of the rules would also be enforced much more strictly than they currently are.
5. Add "avoid sensitive political topics" to the guidelines. Obviously. It's fine if they come up in reference to other topics or if they're being used for innocent jokes, but as soon as you start getting into arguments over that shit, you're out.
No.158717
>>158715>1.The hard part is probably finding replacements who aren't schizos or glowies.
>2.Which software would you use? It would be an interesting experiment whether something else could take the load.
>5.At least a "no politics outside of /pol/" rule should have been added over 10 years ago.
No.158718
Did anyone do a deep analysis of the 4chan code yet and report his findings?
I'm too lazy to wade through thousands of lines of PHP fucking spaghetti code.
No.158741
>>158739Fake for now. I can still post & view fine from the UK, even on NSFW boards. Although there are a whole bunch of other services implementing bans like that.
No.158742
>>158739Best case scenario is they don't comply and Ofcom force UK ISPs to block the site universally. Thing is, most ISP here already do this anyway unless you opt-out. And these existing blocks are hilariously easy to overcome as they are all at the DNS level.
No.158747
Deleted threads on 4chan suddenly are shown as deleted again by auto update. 1-2 hours ago this was still broken.
No.158776
8chan status?
No.158782
>>158739Will the Britpol thread continue but with no UK flags?
No.158783
>>158776Other than /v/tuber cancer, fucking dead.
No.158784
>report post as racism
>gets deleted in under one minute
Now that racism is socially acceptable again in america, shouldn't 4chan remove its anti racism rule?
No.158872
All these schizos spending significant effort into raising drama about things that don't matter. Somehow it's so demoralizing.
No.158883
>>158657Consider: All boards now have the little ID thing BUT it's blacked out most of the time and not clickable except to jannies and mods, and jannies have the option to make it visible in cases of obvious and obnoxious samefagging.
Make it permanent and you've made the really persistent shitposters just change their IPs more often, but people who just want to, say, go through a long thread and reply to whatever they see fit with a unique reply are likely to be assailed with retards calling them samefags
No.158917
>>158783I mean if anyone else has problem connecting.
No.158932
>>158704VPN for now, but not on sites that block it as I have two separate browsers. If a site that blocks vpns also blocks uk users then I guess I'll have to use a third browser with a residential vpn too
No.158942
>>158776>>158783I used to moderate 8moe but ultimately quit because I was constantly being forced to pander to /v/'s owner (Mark) and tardwrangle him and his mods, even at the peak of the user migration caused by 4chan's hack when multiple communities were building bunkers, learning how to use the site and dealing with schizos originated from 4chan.
No.158946
>>158942Dammit, I pressed the submit button before finishing my post.
One of the main reasons 8moe struggles to retain its users and grow is because for years the admins have been pandering to Mark's /v/ and the GamerGate general in particular, going as far as changing rules and antagonizing other communities because they bothered Mark and GGfags in one or another way. Hell, some of 8moe's worst spammers were "born" out of spite for Mark and GGfags constantly demanding changes.
No.158959
Does anyone know whether the gore spammer in this thread is the venerable LolisRDead?
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/280931609 No.158973
>>158959It seems to be a new schizo obsessed with another schizo (Loli Hater-Kun or LHK) who in turn is obsessed with LRD.
Semi-related, but has anyone else noticed that since the pandemy and lockdowns happened lolicons became almost as insane and obnoxious as furries? Every loli thread on the big boards is nothing but schizos accusing each other of being schizos/pedos/ironics/antis/etc, UOH CUNNY spam (on a side note, it's incredibly how this reached the normalfag sphere and continues being used), retards and pedos talking about real children and other forms of autism. The weirdest part is that somehow shotacons (straight and gay) didn't become infected with this new cancer and their threads are relatively normal. Only loli threads turned into AIDS.
No.158979
>>158973this is why diversification is important
a healthy varied diet helps keep you sane
No.158980
also i blame gachafags and their mainstream displays of tardouting
No.158982
>>158942>>1589468moe is shit all around because of its gamergate pedigree and the pedo mod.
No.158995
>>158973LHK is a notorious samefag, do you really believe 'LHK' exists outside of his deranged mind?
No.158998
Keep in mind this is the imageboard happenings thread and not the gossip about shitposters thread. If you want to actively reward shitposters by spending your free time talking about them there are better places for it.
No.158999
>>158995Are you the faggot who is obsessed with "LHK" and who is spamming gore in the linked thread?
No.159097
>>158784>Now that racism is socially acceptable again in america, shouldn't 4chan remove its anti racism rule?No, calling someone a "nigger" is not the same as some retarded schizo constantly spamming and (baselessly) accusing every post he doesn't like to be done by [people he doesn't like].
Racism is banned not because of some faggot's fee fees, it's banned because it derails threads.
No.159098
>>158959>>158973It all feels like ACK with his boogeymen to me. Must be someone from that sphere of mental illness.
No.159107
>>158999oops, I mistyped, I meant to say LRD
No.159109
>>158959I concluded that the most logical explanation is that it's some sharteen kohai pedo who pretends being LRD for the purpose of shitposting. Suits me, maybe this faggot can drive LRD into death by pretending to be him and ruining his already bad reputation.
>>159107Such a believable post!
No.159122
Is meta.4chan kill?
No.159123
>>158946They really want to go back to their peak GG years and try to emulate OG 8chan's heights but it's been 11 years since GG. It's like if RapeApe tried really hard to pander and appeal to Chanologyfags in 4chan. Then there's 8kun still to this day worshipping Q. Combined with the constant times the site is shitting itself, everything about 8chan is a missed opportunity and you can see it with how they fucked up the opportunity to have their /a/ be another lively board for the site.
I also know objectively 8moe has gathered more posters after the hack (mostly vtumors and gachafags) than Kissu but I feel as if Kissu benefitted the most out of the hack. Kissu's few amount of boards made it easier for newcomers to use and learn about the site whereas 8moe has a fuckton of boards which have a post per day and makes it less attractive to fully interact with it.
No.159124
>>159123>Kissu benefitted the most out of the hackThis place has been vividly worse to look at ever since it.
No.159125
>>159124Please elaborate.
No.159126
>>159125He's an image board FUDD basically.
No.159128
>>159125The existence of
>>159126 for example.
No.159130
>>159125>>159126>>159128I'm gonna need a diagram.
No.159132
>>159130you see
>>159125 is new, presumably
>>159126 is a mod, presumably
>>159124 hates /amv/, certainly
might be wrong hope that helped
No.159133
>>159132>>>159124 hates /amv/, certainlyWhat a pleb.
No.159135
>>159132>>159126 (You) is a mod, presumably
Lol no, I'm just an adventuring rapist.
No.159140
>>159135what's your personal rape record
No.159141
>>159122They lost the domain but quickly replaced it with a new one.
No.159142
>>159140depends
Anyway, has Kissu's growth% been documented?
No.159147
>>159128I wouldn't count it, others making negative assumptions about you is a highly likely response to any criticism that doesn't provide an explanation, it makes you look needlessly condescending. Of what good is the statement if there's no info to take into consideration for potentially fixing the issues that you perceive?
No.159150
>>159147You missed the point, him being negative isn't what icks me.
He misspelled imageboard, used some kuso buzzword to try to illustrate his whole sentiment, then proceeded to fail to greentext while at the same time being unfunny.
Kissu has been similarly distasteful to me is all I'm saying.
No.159153
>>159150>fail to greentextNot me, retard.
No.159154
>>158942> /v/'s owner (Mark) and tardwrangle him and his modsWell acid made moe explicitely to house the GG side of 8/v/
I have no idea what you are talking about re drama between communities. all moe boards ridiculously isolated with the one exception of the spanish speaking ones because almost all come from the same site and share a culture
>>158973>Semi-related, but has anyone else noticed that since the pandemy and lockdowns happened lolicons became almost as insane and obnoxious as furries?They are just as insane and obnoxious as I remember them 15 years ago
What changed is that somehow it became mainstream to post it on semi-social media like twitter. Specially shotacon, that shit's on it's golden age and nobody bats an eye.
I distinctly remember the early 2010s when even bringing up the topic was enough to derail a thread, now nobody gives a shit.
> UOH CUNNY spam oh no that's entirely different. I think I know what you are thinking off, the pragmata / cunny threads on /v/?. That's from an actual, bona fide ban evasion website ran by actual CSAM spamming pedophiles. The owner has been recorded grooming children, he used to post on old /qa/.
No.159155
>>158998If we can't discuss schizos and gayops that's a solid half of all possible happenings becoming banned discussion.
No.159156
>>159123> It's like if RapeApe tried really hard to pander and appeal to Chanologyfags in 4chan. >the ex-army conservacutie pandering to the first group of libs to ever post on 4chanfunny
No.159157
>>159155Banned discussion for this thread in particular. I'd expect a happening thread to talk about somewhat exciting occurrences, not someone mentioning at which time of the day they decided to willingly and knowingly visit 4chan and ruin their day.
No.159158
>>159157Well i started reading this thread after i came across the webring's collapse story and that happened because of schizo spammers.
I think you may want to recalibrate your definition to be more specific.
No.159159
>>158973>Semi-related, but has anyone else noticed that since the pandemy and lockdowns happened lolicons became almost as insane and obnoxious as furries?No, that never happened.
No.159160
>>159158I guess the
interesting part comes into play. "SGF (Spamguyfag) spammed a thread I was in" isn't particularly exciting and happens hundreds of times a day across various threads. Elevating a spammer into a celebrity instead of an annoyance doesn't necessarily make it any more interesting.
No.159166
>>158973>Semi-related, but has anyone else noticed that since the pandemy and lockdowns happened lolicons became almost as insane and obnoxious as furries? That happened starting around 2019, but it's almost dead now. Like most meme shit, some of it survived on low levels.
No.159171
>>159154>UOH CUNNYHe means the "Uohhhh brat needs rape correction😭
💢" and similar
No.159179
>>159124this
how is more trash coming in a good thing
No.159182
>>159181I mainly don't like the board changes
No.159197
>>159194Not all nu-/jp/ers are general dwellers but they all have a little bit of general dweller in them.
In any case, I fucking despise them and I'm on altchans because I don't wanna have to see or interact with them. I guess I'm just gonna blacklist this site and move on.
No.159199
https://www.4chan.org/legal4chinz added a new legal policy for "revenge porn" posted in the site.
No.159200
>>159197You could always go to wapchan which got hit a lot less hard by nu /jp/
No.159201
At this point, angerposting about site and community quality with no details given (other than buzzwords) should be a bannable offense. There's exactly one post that at least explains a concern, the rest reads like 4chan teenagers roleplaying as oldfags in an attempt to avoid actual discussion while at the same time behaving exactly like the people they claim to want to avoid.
You'd think someone genuinely concerned with the quality of posts for over 3 months would at least take it to /b/ for consideration or leave for alternatives.
No.159204
>>159199Looks pretty commonsensical. I thought they enforced this already in practice (if slowly and inconsistently), so putting it in writing just improves transparency and accountability.
The only questionable bits at first glance are:
>If you believe that material or content residing on or accessible through Company's websites or services>1. Your notice concerns material or content hosted on a domain operated by Company, such as 4chan.org or 4cdn.org. We are unable to remove material or content located on other domainsDoes that mean they won't remove links to externally hosted revenge porn?
And:
>It is Company's policy:>To remove the Intimate Visual Depiction with the 48-hour timeframeThat's longer than the lifespan of an average thread on the actually active boards, and realistically, they have enough staff to take it down within 12 hours at most.
No.159212
>>159204Is there a legal minimum response time?
No.159216
>>159179Alright lowercase concern troll, you'll get a response from me.
You and the other person (assuming not samefag) are the trash here spreading misery around through nebulous unactionable criticism targeting new users. You have no specific complaint, just a cowardly "this thing bad" because if you name specific things then you would need to defend your weak stance. You would be overwhelmed by the side that sees the new users as beneficial and you would slink away like the diseased rat you are. Better to keep it nonspecific so you can goad along others through "subtle" concern trolling, right?
>>159197Don't let the door hit your concern troll ass on the way out. Your attempt at social manipulation is blatant and unwanted.
No.159222
>>159150Complaining about buzzwords right after using one defeats whatever point you're trying to make.
>>159197Good, less miserable cunts like (You) around can only be for the better.
No.159225
>>159199Even less reasons for people to use /b/
No.159226
>>159222Do you think kuso is a buzzword?
No.159228
>>159227Who are you quoting?
No.159229
>>159204>Does that mean they won't remove links to externally hosted revenge porn?The posts containing the links are hosted in 4chan's servers and therefore must be deleted after receiving a legitimate claim. The clause simply states that if some cunt uploaded your nudes on catbox and linked them on /b/ 4chan can't and won't do a thing to delete the stuff in catbox's serves.
>That's longer than the lifespan of an average thread on the actually active boards, and realistically, they have enough staff to take it down within 12 hours at most./b/ isn't the only board with retards sharing porn of people they know. /soc/, /gif/ and the porn boards (specially /s/ after a retarded mod tried to send /b/'s porn addicts there to clean the board) are full of amateur content and their threads can last weeks or months.
>>159212The law requires the host to remove the content in less than 48 hours. This bit is one of the most controversial parts of the law because it doesn't give users and hosts enough time to review the content and challenge the claims if necessary.
No.159239
I'm leaving, and (You) can't stop me
t. epic /jp/ ancientfag
No.159243
>>159229Seems like a great law to censor porn. One could just pay a couple of lawyers to spend their day with spamming every site that allows porn with fake TIDA notices.
No.159250
>>159243>One could just pay a couple of lawyers to spend their day with spammingIf you have infinite budget and a pool of lawyers desperate enough to risk getting disbarred, sure.
No.159253
>>159250There are more than enough people around who hate porn.
No.159261
>>159253But most of them aren't lawyers, and most lawyers won't take on sketchy work like that because they can easily make bank without committing fraud.
More importantly, anti-porn lobby groups have perfectly legal strategies available that are proven to be more effective. See the current clusterfuck with payment providers and that new UK law. That approach is much less likely to backfire on them and much harder for admins to work around.
No.159273
>>159264This is the type of netiquette you could expect on 4taba..
No.159274
>>159272This is the type of netiquette you could expect on /trash/..
No.159276
>>159275All frog threads are AI made. It has been this way since 2017.
No.159330
Has anyone else noticed someone (or a bot perhaps) copy/pasting their posts in other threads on 4chan lately? I don't use 4chan much but I commented on a few threads in topical boards last week. In that time I've seen my posts copy/pasted into other threads 5 times now. Sometimes the entire post and sometimes just portions of it. Whoever is doing it carries on like it's an original post of theirs and responds to each and every reply they get.
I'm wondering if it's a bot that searches archives for posts with a lot of (you)s then reposts them elsewhere. Much like the old karma whoring bots on social media. It's really strange.
No.159333
>>159330no
post some examples in the archive, I'm curious
No.159343
>>159333>>159334/g/, /a/, and /x/.
I only noticed because I had 6 threads open and whoever is doing was copy/pasting a post I made an hour ago into another thread on the same board. Since then I've seen it multiple times in the last week. I wondered why I started seeing so many dupes across active threads but it made sense once I saw someone doing it with my own. They usually prefix them with
>NTA butwhich is something else that started up right after it came back from the hack. I wonder if activity is so down they're having to resort to ChatGPT+copy/pasting legit posts or if it's a broken bot or something. The place is basically dead in the middle of the night now (maybe 3pph on fast boards) and threads are lasting up to a week on "fast" boards now. So I think legit activity must be way down.
No.159345
>>159343Searching for
>NTA butNetted me a result almost instantly. Original post from June:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105681521/#105686391Copy/pasted post from today:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106102820/#106110164I'll try to find more if I get some more time later. It's really common. Searching for "NTA but" brings up thousands of results all in the last months since the hack. I don't remember the "NTA" thing being used at all before the hack. But perhaps it started just before and I didn't notice. The whole "NTA" thing is pretty retarded on an anonymous imageboard in the first place.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/NTA%20but/ No.159346
>>159345NTA started a year ago or so to prevent confusion but it just detracts from the fact that it's an anonymous board and whether you are or aren't someone else doesn't matter in the slightest.
No.159347
>>159346I don't remember it happening a year ago. It's pretty stupid either way. I just noticed the post I found above was in a deleted thread that got purged pretty quickly. I also noticed that when it was re-posted someone took the time to cram in a bunch of MSM topical stuff and attempted to copy the prose of the original.
I'd have to go through my history and I'm not on that computer right now. But I swear the same thing has happened to me multiple times in the last week. Sometimes they copy/paste the post as is. Sometimes they only copy portions of it. Sometimes they edit it attempting to maintain the original prose as in the above example.
It just seems really odd considering people have been screenshotting posts they want to keep for decades instead of re-posting them like that. I don't remember anyone going out of their way to subtly edit copy/pastes either. Aside from obvious trolling which can't be the point if they aren't doing it in the same thread.
I figure it's happening to a bunch of other people because I see dupes in almost every thread now if I bother to browse most of the catalog. It's really obvious when I keep say 5-10 threads open and updating in separate tabs. They don't seem to wait for threads to archive. The above example had 2 months between it being re-posted but I've seen them do it within 30 minutes. Sometimes in unrelated threads where the post doesn't even make sense.
The only other explanation would be someone knowing which threads I'm lurking even when I haven't posted in them yet and doing it just to mess with me.
No.159356
>>159343>>159345You're demonstrably wrong. "Not that anon but" has regular records going back to 2008:
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/%22not%20that%20anon%20but%22/order/asc/The sage archive also shows it was already in use by 2007. And the abbreviation is as old as 2013, but picks up between 2016-2019:
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/%22NTA%20but%22%20-%22s%20a%20nta%22/order/asc/If you never noticed, that's definitely a you problem. On top of that, it isn't retarded at all, and often relevant when you want to get into an ongoing discussion between two people but wish to distinguish your stance from the other guy's. I myself simply adopt a different writing style so I never need to employ it, but there's a reason it's been in use for almost two decades.
No.159357
>>159330I've seen ENTIRE threads being copy pasted, every single post up to a certain point in time, I don't really know if it's a bot or just one of the very mentally ill faggot retards that frequent 4chan, it did happen after the entire thread bullied one specific schizo, so it must have been some kind of melty.
No.159358
>>159356>If you never noticed, that's definitely a you problem. Don't pretend like there hasn't been a massive uptick in the last 5 months or so and that it isn't stupid. Damn.
No.159359
>>159358Desu has close to four hundred thousand instances of the two put together, the difference between "I don't remember it happening a year ago" and "there's been an uptick" is larger than the Himalayas. Of those four hundred thousand, only 31k are from March onwards.
No.159360
>>159356>>159358The problem with archive diving is that you always find something in ancient years, but it never makes it obvious whether these were always common, or whether they were just single cases and use of it exploded in recent years. Best would be to plot a chart, but with the recent desuarchive throttling this is harder than ever.
No.159361
>>159359Whatever, you're right. I wasn't there for decades and it didn't start getting spammed hundreds of times every thread since the hack. You happy?
No.159363
>>159359Nearly 8% of all of its use has happened in the past 6 months? That would've made it pretty sparsely used during that large period of time, wouldn't it? What are you talking about???
No.159364
>>159363The spike occurred years ago. It was already common in 2019 where it was used 13k times, and 17k in 2020, then doubled to 32k in 2021, and exploded again to 52k in 2022, and once more reaching 80k in 2023, 85k in 2024.
That means that not only has it been a common occurrence for years (13k is still nothing to scoff at), it also means that the current rate is just a continuation of a trend started long ago, and it's leveling off.
No.159367
>>159364You have an extremely skewed sense of what's common, but ~2023 is when I first started seeing it used and beyond that it slowly started making its way into altchans as well.
No.159383
post office down again?
No.159388
>>159367Don't bother arguing with someone that focuses on the wrong part of the story. He finds something to get angry about no matter what other people are trying to discuss.
>guys I found this bot that copy/pastes post>it does "NTA but" in an attempt to avoid spam filter and to make the post look more uniqueThat's what I wanted to discuss. Not if some stupid thing is popular or not.
>>159357>I've seen ENTIRE threads being copy pasted, every single post up to a certain point in time, I don't really know if it's a bot or just one of the very mentally ill faggot retards that frequent 4chan, it did happen after the entire thread bullied one specific schizo, so it must have been some kind of melty.I've seen this too and I know for a fact it was done by a mod on one board. They'd post a bait thread most everyday. If the thread didn't go the way they wanted. Like for example, if a bunch of anons showed up to have an actual discussion that wasn't their planned flame war he'd always do the following:
1) Argue for awhile in an attempt to derail thread back into flame war he wanted
2) Mass delete and ban all posters that didn't take the bait
3) Delete the thread
4) Re-post the exact same OP
5) Copy/paste all posts from the last thread he didn't purge.
6) Pretend it is the same thread
I saw him do it three or four times one night. Since the handful of anons he banned for no reason got angry and kept swapping to new IPs to call him out on what he was doing. He'd always hit them with "evading ban" ban of course.
In the above example what he'd do was post a vaguely related to board's topic thread but in reality he wanted to start a flame war about castrated men. Purely bait so he could ban people for breaking the "no racism outside of /b/" rule they love to abuse to silence people elsewhere. But the anons got pissed off about the daily stale bait and the unfair moderation. So they ended up going into an in-depth discussion about suicide rates among that part of the population along with posting links to medical journals about how they're all medicated. All while expressing sympathy for such people being abused and misled by their doctor(s). Basically: "Don't be mad at use we're not the ones that tricked you".
The above would send that particular mod into a fit of rage every time. So once people caught on they'd re-post similar things every time he showed up with his usual bait threads. At some point he stopped posting them and the occurrences of banning for that particular thing on that particular board slowed way down. So I'm assuming he either quit, got fired or otherwise gave up. He was doing it everyday for over a year then suddenly one day no one was getting banned for casual banter along those lines anymore. So I'm assuming he's gone.
You could always tell when he was online because all he did was post the same 3-5 bait threads everyday then go on his banning sprees. Always during NEET hours. It must have been the only thing he was doing with his time.
Anyway, when I see the copy/pasted threads within minutes of the original being deleted I always assume it's moderation due to the above. I've also seen what I think you're talking about. Where I'll lurk a thread and get the feeling that I've read it before. Then I'll remember it's word-for-word a thread from months and sometimes years ago. No doubt there are tons of bots that do nothing but re-post old stuff from archives. I run across a thread like that at least three times a day.
No.159390
>>159388>Where I'll lurk a thread and get the feeling that I've read it before. Then I'll remember it's word-for-word a thread from months and sometimes years ago. I had this happen yesterday, it was only the first posts, it's probably a retarded spammer trying to increase engagement by copying bait posts he saw working before.
No.159397
>>159275Sometime in 2017-19 somebody found an onion imageboard with several boards filled with nothing but bot posts. The posts were rambling gibberish and all in Italian and it would reply to other posts. It was weird at the time because this was before botting became a common complaint even on /pol/.
I think botting shows using metrics like number of websites or the total data size of the internet or word count is a flawed approach. Because it's obvious to even the average person now that anybody can rig a computer to transform and rearrange and regurgitate information.
The real metric is information density and that has consistently gone down year over year.
It's a repeat of the domestication of the Wild West and the Frontier. What was once filled with cowboys and indians and cattle is now being replaced with large corporations and government and society. Facebook and the smartphone were the railroads or any innovation to promote greater adoption and integration by the masses.
No.159412
>>159397actually there are still plenty of indians.
No.159445
4chan doesn't really make a good point on why free speech as in no rules on speech is supposed to be a good thing.
In fact it's fucking awful.
I say that as someone who can't exist on normal social media anymore.
No.159459
>>159367Common things are not just those that appear at every turn and are constantly on your mind, they're the ones that appear with regularity and which you are acquainted with. The kind of stuff that's considered normal enough to never be explicitly recorded, because it's just a given and not particularly important. Using "not that anon" is one such common thing, which a user may take note of and use themselves from time to time if they feel like it, a usual response to the usual situation of not wanting to be mistaken for someone else (or, if malicious, pretending to be someone else). I know it's normal because I myself took note of it over a decade ago, both on 4chan and 8chan, and the data from Desu supports it being a background expression that rose to moderate prominence around 2013, being used across the site dozens of times every single day, before beginning to become more mainstream in 2020, and steadily rising while the original form was overtaken by its abbreviation, a process that has occurred many times before.
The problem here is that, although is is very much true that
>>159345 shows copypaste going on, it also shows that the alleged bot is expanding on the old version and making it even more inflammatory, at the same time that the vast majority of posts using "NTA but" are original, not duplicates. It's much easier to attribute this to a random troll selectively copypasting what tickles his fancy, like the Plato jeet AI spammer from /lit/, though the users of that board are at least smart enough to understand that one retard copypasting slop isn't proof of the dead internet theory. The point of bringing attention to the term being in reality quite old was to show the fallibility of one's memory, but that isn't going to work with someone who thinks they may be getting gangstalked on an anonymous imageboard.
No.159467
>>159464man I feel like public bans became really scarce after 2019 or so
No.159468
>>159464but to answer your question, mods and jannies don't really care about enforcing the rules. They ban whatever they personally don't like. Strike Witches gets deleted from /a/, Touhou gets deleted from /v/, Murder Drones used to get deleted from /co/ etc.
No.159470
>>159464reading the posts from the archive it looks like that guy was just a big ban evader or something to that extent
No.159471
>>159464I'm not sure why a mod decided to hand out a public ban, but that guy is one of the most obnoxious avatarfaggots from Dragon Ball Z/GT/Super/Daima threads, the general with the highest amount of deleted posts and banned users. They spend the entire day roleplaying as various characters (not just from DB), posting porn, gore and scat, calling each others BITCHCHADSCHOLARCUCKTR
OONBBCKWABSISSYSCAT, raiding random threads and basically spamming noise until they get banned. They are so cancerous that they managed to turn other generals on /a/, /co/ and /v/ into similar cesspools, and their nest is only allowed to pollute /a/ because one of the higher up mods likes how they shit up the site (the leaks revealed that j/a/nitors want that general gone because it infests even the slow boards).
This is what the average Dragon Ball thread looks like, in case you haven't seen this cancer before:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/281001268 No.159481
>>159471I used to frequent the DBS threads a lot back in 2017-2020. This style of posting originally was just meant to be banter between characterfags and, compared to now, it used to be very tame. It started from Gohanfags bantering with Cauliflafags back during the ToP arc of the anime, but what gave birth to the current cancer shitshow was back when Dragon Ball Super: Broly was announced with Broly being called the strongest yet in the trailers. This caused Jirenfags to start a new banter war with the Brolyfags in new ways involving the complete and utter humiliation of the opposing group involving copypastas using big words roleplaying as "scholars" or trying to emasculate the opposing side as "scat/cuties/bitches/sissies/etc". These posts would keep escalating and escalating in retarded ingenuity and degeneracy that at one point it caused the jannies to delete the threads. This caused DBSfags to, in retaliation, spam the living shit out of the catalog with DBS threads. This became their MO whenever the jannies would delete their threads and they were bullied into conceding to allow their existence as a containment unmoderated shithole general. This also caused for other anons from other shounen threads to check out the DBS threads and imitate this style of posting. Seeing how they were being copied by the rest of the website, they opted to amp their shitposting degeneracy to go even further the limit, which resulted in the rest of the website copying them and continue this out of control spiral.
>>159464As for that post in particular, a retarded thing that the DBS threads started to do is trying to become the "ABSOLUTE PINNACLE OF MASCULINE MUSCULAR MANLINESS" and in order to do so, they would shame anyone posting anime girls by replying to the post with ">moeshit/>moeshit for pedophiles"/etc. So in order to make, in this case, Vegetafags as emasculated as possible, one guy would start to falseflag as a vegetafag expressing his love for Giselle from Bleach since he's a trap. Eventually he became a massive avatarfag and turned his "love" for Giselle from ironic falseflagging to genuine fascination. Essentially, everytime he posts a pic involving Giselle, is out of seeking any kind of provocation and getting (You)s.
I already left the threads back in 2020 because I thought they were becoming too incoherent and only derived value from some anons sharing Japanese Broly MADs, I can't imagine what they're like now 5 years later.
No.159482
>>159481As someone who has never really interacted with DB/S in ways other than casual consumption and who also has zero emotional connection to any of the anime-based boards on 4chan, this reads hilarious with just how childish and genuinely utterly mentally ill it is. It's both funny and worrying at the same time how certain sub-communities can get so absorbed in their stupid meme wars that they seemingly stop noticing the [as]-level of stupidity they're adding onto, but which everyone else can see and suffers from. I feel for reasonable anons like you and hope you found / find your place of peace.
Also glad to hear that Broly MADs are appreciated even outside the usual NND sphere.
No.159483
>>159481>This became their MO whenever the jannies would delete their threads and they were bullied into conceding to allow their existence as a containment unmoderated shithole general.There's a lesson in there somewhere. Something along the lines of "Containment doesn't work. If you ever feel the need to contain it, nuke it instead. If the disease persists, shadowban it with regex."
There would be no soisphere today if 4staff learned this lesson back when it mattered.
No.159485
>>159483>Containment doesn't work. A lesson as old as 4chan, but the retards operating the site never learned it.
I really want to know the mindset of these worthless retards who actually spend time banning posts that say "sage" but don't take care of the most blatant toxic shitpost spam.
I hate them so much, fucking retards.
No.159504
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>>159481>I can't imagine what they're like now 5 years later.Basically this during 500 posts per thread every day.
No.159508
Reminder that the DBS thread shitposting comes from 2-3 people, as was revealed when 8/a/ turned on IDs.
No.159509
>>159508Then why don't they just IP wipe them?
No.159510
>>159509Because their moderation is garbage and is kept that way deliberately.
No.159530
>>159483Nothing at all do do with containment, since the mods carved out the space for shounenshit generals themselves when there was essentially nothing.
No.159536
Strike Witches thread was up for almost 2 days, but it got autosaged.
They forced shounen shit on /a7 and even allow a shounen general, but Strike Witches threads are not possible. I feel so much regret that the mod doxxing with the recent hack didn't lead to anything.
No.159672
Can someone explain to me what the fuck this
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274323270/ mentally ill shit in /ghost/ is?
No.159676
>>159672Interesting. I wonder if it's some /a/ group that was dislodged from somewhere. The thread reeks of the hima-fication process of a community devolving into lowercase blogging with random 2D images: the seemingly inescapable fate awaiting every general thread or board with general threads.
They must be using some sort of browser extension that makes use of that gibberish text somehow, right? Kinda mysterious.
No.159714
This might just get me in trouble for a multitude of reasons, but I'm genuinely interested in the history.
Any places one can read up on the original owner of guroch? What confuses me the most is that I'm 99% sure to once have read about a kaguya having been very close with 4staff on IRC prior to the inception of guroch, but any other source seems to portray the person as your average modern chanshitbag that somehow acquired ownership just a couple of years ago. This also makes the most sense to me considering he seems to be close with the owner of Vidlii, who sounds like he just entered his 20s. The original kag, if there ever was one, must be either in his 40s now or close to that and it's hard to imagine someone like that dedicating their entire life to a new teen audience.
No.159724
>>159345There are lots of piece of shit organizations/governments that want to destroy imageboards, and lots of papers have even been written on the subject, the most infamous of which is probably that Crest one.
Think about it. How would you destroy a website which is anonymous, has an innate resistance to trolling and spam, and has relatively relaxed moderation? Flood it with low-quality (but not so low quality that they're detected and deleted) posts that muddle up the discourse and eventually people will throw up their arms and leave. Its common knowledge that the jannies are niggers and won't do anything to genuinely improve the site.
Using AI for this really isn't a novel thing. Most posts on the front page of Reddit have been AI written for years now as an example. "Up and coming" subreddits like r/AITAH are literally just 95% bots, and the enormous subreddits of old that were constantly on the front page in 2016 are ghost towns now. On 4chan, a SINGLE person could pull it off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efPrtcLdcdM No.159728
>>159483Perhaps, but its a lot funnier this way. The only people who don't like the insanity/creativity of the soisphere are bitter oldfags/oldfag imitators who feel that they should dictate how anonymous egyptian dredging boards should be used. The fact that 4chan was started by a 15 year old Moot and has been characterized by its raiding and lulz from its very beginning is completely lost on them.
No.159730
>>159714I'm not sure that there's much to know. I think it's a very safe bet that someone operating a community site in the 00s would not be the same person doing it today. The site is known to have had a tumultuous time going offline and coming back and switching owners as well so it's even more unlikely. And this is for an imageboard, the volatile format with very high turnover rate for staff.
It's simply a common nickname to use on the internet among dorks of a certain persuasion.
No.159749
>>159330In /v/ it's being botted hard by the ban evasion website. That's how the build their "orbs" aka proxy bundles with high IP trust for fags to post in. The bots are usually semi-anime related and with AI model replies so they rarely repeat stuff.
>>159343Huh this this is new.
>/g/ generalsBoy you have no idea what you walked into. Half the ban evasion tool devs come from /g/. And there's a lot of people running their own independent botting there in schizophrenic general vs. general spats. The board has straight up collapsed on a way I've only seen once in 15 years of IBs.
Your specific example, i doubt it's a bot. Seems to me a pman or a schizo saved your post for his future attempts at convincing the wall that his fixations are good.
/g/ is a dead board for a reason. Not even the mods want to touch it anymore. The other /hap/ has been tracing activity and there's literally only 1 mod active there, there aren't even jannies anymore. At this point I think they don't freeze it due to the pride damage of killing a legacy board.
>>159357I've have seen schizos copypaste their entire thread on mine because I was "competition" as a way of killing the community by making it unfun.
And let's not forget Bui the Spammer disappearing that /vg/ by pioneering copying posts from archives.
In general however people would rather do blatant bot / imagespam because they don't want just to kill the place, they want the others to know it's them. Copying posts is "too subtle"
>>159367Language evolves, you are screaming at clouds.
>>159387Imagine how respected Kaguya would be if he stopped sucking that guy dick for just 1 minute.
That kid is living proof grooming minors works.
No.159751
>>159483/qa/ having no janitors is what caused the soisphere to happen.
>>159676> The thread reeks of the hima-fication process of a community devolving into lowercase blogging with random 2D images: the seemingly inescapable fate awaiting every general thread or board with general threads.pfffft this is too true
>>159714Kaguya aka "Susuran" was a minor groomed by K*z into becoming his right hand man around 2020
He fell for his LARP ("I'm a russian host of imageboards who was there to see moot start 4chan") in Heyuri, months after the LARPman succesfully stole Heyuri away from the original admin, Lolico, by discord cabaling the fuck out of the site and spamming CSAM on the side.
Kaguya actually, honest-to-god got groomed here. To this day he cannot cut contact with him despite that guy becoming the second Kimmo Alm of imageboard history aka universally despised.
Kaguya became a Janny on that guy suggestion so he could pass him information and steal extension scripts. that guy leaked screenshots /j/ around 2022 after the plan fell through, but Kaguya stayed a janny. 99% sure he got fired recently.
Guroch, which iirc is a revival site, was a side project of that guy. He was known as a collector imageboards before his downfall. He gave everything to Kaguya when he became obsessed with owning the funny bald men website because he knew the communities weren't compatible. Whether he actually still pays for Heyuri and Guroch sites is a bit of a mystery.
The original Gurochan was ran by a 4chan / Raspberry Heaven OG as part of the wave of sites spawned by thatdog's Futallaby. You are correct that they should be hitting 40. They have no relation with Kaguya or that guy.
>>159744mod on sp happened in 2013
janny look like cat iirc is 2012?
No.159752
>>159744ah if you mean the song, it's 100% from /sp/
No.159754
>>159751>/qa/ having no janitors is what caused the soisphere to happenIt feels kind of strange that I have to correct this on this k/qa/ of all places, but, nope!
4/qa/ having strong moderation is what kicked us out via rangebans after all the special rules like filters, thread creation limits and automatic thread autosage failed to drive us out. All the special board rules and limitations placed on the board for us were loosened or removed for the wojak rage comic era.
They gave them stickies
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3404114/and CSS:
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/3730633Mods created and nurtured the wojaks and were happy with them until the monster turned against its creator.
No.159757
>>159749No one is talking about language.
No.159758
>>159754qajp threads also had stickies, public bans against anti-anime threads, kemono musume threads moved to /qa/ and even had a hand in getting sachiko on the front page. It's exaggerated claim they "fostered" soijaks in particular when they fostered all groups.
Past that: Moderation on /qa/ had this cycle where a random mod visited at random intervals, deletes everything he personally didn't like, then get his ass blasted when he came back next day and the things he deleted where back. This is the further from "strong moderation" as I'd describe it.
That "personal mod attention" cycle was stable when the board was only 20 retards fighting. When that number went from 20 to 200 stability went out the window. Rampant raid threads ram their course before mods could discover them. If /qa/ had a couple janitors, that wouldn't have happened.
The only people who got strongly moderated were script spamming 24/7. They likely got their browser fingerprinted and singled out for IP nukes. It was less "strong moderation" and more them not realizing the giant BAN ME sign on their back.
>>159757"NTA but" is language. An evolution of common imageboard lexicum. The other anon ran the statistics on how it spread
No.159761
>>159758I didn't realize it was about language, it thought it was someone being pedantic about where NTA came from for no reason.
No.159762
>>159749>In /v/ it's being botted hard by the ban evasion website. That's how the build their "orbs" aka proxy bundles with high IP trust for fags to post in. The bots are usually semi-anime related and with AI model replies so they rarely repeat stuff.Could this be happening on /a/ too?
No.159763
>>159751>/qa/ having no janitors is what caused the soisphere to happen.The 4chan mods are so fucking trash.
No.159764
>>159762Adapting it to /a/ is super easy, just change the POST-header from /a/ to /v/. But afaik it's operating on one board only.
They specifically choose /v/ because /v/ermin (in particular /v/ + /vg/) are the boards with the strongest anti-bot measures and hardcoded anti-spam code for some thread subject. The pragmata threads are their personal project.
No.159765
>>159751>/qa/ having no janitors is what caused the soisphere to happen.Literally the opposite THOUGH. /qa/ was moderated, just not to the point that 'jaks were banned on site. That only changed when /lgbt/ was raided.
It wasn't ever a containment board. /qa/ was basically just a slower /bant/ (/b/ without nonstop porn) and as such it became a fun place to flood with the pictures of overly enthusiastic bearded men with chronically low free testosterone.
The soy booru/wiki/sharty started on their own AFAIK, and weren't particularly motivated by ban evasion. Its just that the style of that ecosystem is similar to /intl/ if you remember that, so lulz, raiding, spamming, etc. is encouraged and practiced, which is really funny if you can just look at it impartially.
No.159766
>>159765>It wasn't ever a containment board. /qa/ was basically just a slower /bant/On this you are correct. But it's besides my point:
I'm not saying it wasn't moderated. i'm saying it was
inefficiently moderated. Mods alone can't make a board work. It needs the janny to keep the everyday posters in check
>That only changed when /lgbt/ was raided.They made that raid to be a massive event went it wasn't even the fifth time lgbt was raided by the party, and they were raiding boards every week. You have their hit list on their wiki, and on top of that, wojak spam was already widely adopted by shitposters from other boards well before the party.
iirc Jaks were banned sitewide since they took to raiding /tv/ mid 2020. /qa/ was their refuge after they started getting deleted even on /int/. Then they got spammy again and it was a coin toss whether a jak thread could get deleted or not during 2021.
I think this perception that "bald men were allowed until they were not" comes from the explosive growth of the subculture in 2021. Many people, most literal kids, had no idea that they could get you banned elsewhere and those are the ones that ended up writing the wiki. Every time they went to the mods to ask why they were getting banned on /qa/, they were aggressively told off.
Which is why I find the idea of saying mods invented soijaks to be funny. There's no point ever where they liked it. They appreciated them turning /qa/ into a blue /b/ that could make OC, but they never represented all the activity of the board nor did the the mods enjoy having them around.
No.159768
>>159758Bleh, I don't have the motivation for this like I did on 4/qa/.
Link the qajp stickies and the CSS.
Until you do, I'll regard you, who admits to using a wojak wiki as a source for information, to be heavily biased if not purposely spreading misinformation.
>The only people who got strongly moderated were script spamming 24/7.I'm referring to the major purge at the end where a bunch of people were rangebanned. Wait, why am I doing this again? You will reply that no one was rangebanned and that your gut feeling is equal to other people's evidence and we have a retarded brick wall meta thread like on 4/qa/.
>>159766>Which is why I find the idea of saying mods invented soijaks to be funnyFine, not "created". Nurtured. Given succor. Encouraged. Rewarded. Embraced as the newest epic shitpost spam culture of 4chan.
>There's no point ever where they liked it.I used to lurk #4chan, I saw them
linking frog and wojak shitpost threads on boards instead of deleting them. Some mod linking some kuso offtopic template pepe thread on /ck/ is what lead me to abandoning that board forever. Maybe it was his thread.
If there's one thing that bonds 4chan staff and most users together it's their collective orgasm over eternal rageface templates and disdain towards lame nerd stuff like sincerity. Why
wouldn't they like them? When something proliferates so much that it becomes the site's new identity it's because it was given endorsement to do so.
No.159769
>>159768>Until you do, I'll regard you, who admits to using a wojak wiki as a source for informationOh no. I committed a taboo by citing compilations of primary evidence saved in archive.is. I am clearly evil and biased.
>Link the qajp stickies and the CSS. qajp sticky
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/821390/using qajp oc
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1654916/#1664491anti-anime & frogs getting public bans
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/2920781/https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1626817/https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1569299/https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1501060/https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1622693/getting sachiko on the frontpage
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1008877/>I'm referring to the major purge at the end where a bunch of people were rangebanned. Those got rangebanned for scriptspamming 24/7 and/or associating with the spammer. You can
literally check 4stats and see when they turn their thread slide script off and the board takes a dip in activity of like 20%, and here's the scriptspammers' farewell thread.
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/2907055>Given succor. Encouraged. Rewarded. Embraced as the newest epic shitpost spam culture of 4chan. Posting cringe bald men anywhere outside /qa/ was a ban, and a coin toss on /qa/ depending on how anal the mod mas that day. Mods eventually accepted they became site culture, but it doesn't change the reality that they did so despite moderation's attempt at punishing their posters.
>I used to lurk #4chan, I saw them linking frog and wojak shitpost threads on boards instead of deleting them. You realize frogs and wojaks are unrelated to soyjaks?
At this point you are just complaining the mods liked things you didn't like.
No.159772
>>159769>https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/821390/Well, that's more [s4s], which isn't a bad thing. Didn't it receive a paired thread on [s4s] at the same time? Maybe I'm misremembering. It's true that it's not a "stop enjoying things" sticky, though, so that's worth something.
>using qajp ocWell no, we had our own images. They cleaned it up to provide something different. I guess I'll eat my hat because this deserves credit as an attempt to genuinely improve the board. I hope that mod resigned and is enjoying his time somewhere better instead of playing Sisyphus every day.
>anti-anime & frogs getting public bansFostering an unwanted drama war by awarding shitpost badges to wear with pride instead of deletions. I always assumed they were warnings.
>getting sachiko on the frontpageI'm aware of that, but it was someone messaging hiro on twitter (currently x) that did it after the campaign went nowhere.
>Those got rangebanned for scriptspamming 24/7 and/or associating with the spammer.I don't know how you'd come to the conclusion that the people that disappear from a rangeban are the ones that post with a dozen new proxy IPs each day. The people
affected by a rangeban are inherently innocent because they lack the knowledge/power to get around it. The bot(s) were turned off at the end when the people weren't there to benefit from it.
>You realize frogs and wojaks are unrelated to soyjaks?I do regard glasses wojak as a wojak. Being the modern incarnation of rage comics, there's a variety of templates you can paste in for all situations. Old wojak, young wojak, female wojak, fat wojak, etc. He's part of the pantheon. Just because a specific version because popular and got its own derivatives doesn't mean it's not a wojak.
I think the 'depict my enemy as wojak' thing traces its roots to /r9k/ where unfeeling smug pepe became the representative of what is good in the world (NEETs, loser teenagers, etc) and crying wojak became the enemy instead of the previously empathetic >tfw guy. Smug Pepe, of course, has been replaced by Chad for like 6 years at this point. Holy fuck it's been that long.
Anyway, from /r9k/ it turned into console war wojaks on /v/ where wojaks with hats were the angsty flame war version of console-tans. You knew a console was bad if the wojak with its hat on was crying. It's not a coincidence that this wonderful subculture (is it still a subculture when it's the default across the internet?) started with a Nintendo wojak.
So yes, I do consider it to be connected to wojak. It's true that he's disconnected from '>tfw' wojak, but '>tfw' wojak was supplanted by 'enemy' wojak a decade ago and that's not the wojak I was talking about. In hindsight, that replacement was emblematic of the cultural death of sincerity, but I'll avoid ranting any longer.
No.159775
>>159772>Didn't it receive a paired thread on [s4s] at the same time?NTA and I didn't read the entire conversation you guys are having, but I wouldn't be surprised as the OP of that thread definitely belonged to [s4s] (sadly). This brought up terrible memories for me and I need to vent really quick by yet again wishing death upon all namefags. That will be all.
No.159779
>>159772>Well, that's more [s4s], which isn't a bad thing.Would be very disingenuous to say [s4s] and /qa/ had no overlap. Teeth girl et al.
>Fostering an unwanted drama war by awarding shitpost badges to wear with pride instead of deletions.If someone tries to boss others around, they will inevitably get trolled. Frogs were a reaction to a cause. Mods were ok with qajp until the botting got too ridiculous to ignore.
>I'm aware of that, but it was someone messaging hiro on twitter (currently x) that did it after the campaign went nowhere.With an OC first posted on /qa/, sachiko got front page'd less than a week after it. who says it failed? The original guy may have not stayed for long but sachikoposting is 100% /qa/.
>The people affected by a rangeban are inherently innocent because they lack the knowledge/power to get around it.Are you 100% sure it was a rangeban? With the number of americans in qajp, that would have stopped everyone from posting and it never seemed than more than 3-4 people did.
What I think happened is this: Anti-flood and post discarding.
There's a non-0 chance it wasn't a true rangeban but one of the first anti-flood measures implemented to dissuade ban evaders. Context: This happens right as the same time as the Dire Furfag of the ban evasion site was starting to get customized post blocks, and also the first time when instant post discarding was introduced iirc. Pic very much related.
I wouldn't state it as fact, but it's not past the realm of possibility those innocents were evading so often they got caught in the anti-flood measures. Don't know when false rangebans messages got introduced, but the dates do align.
>>159774afaik that's pure bs. iirc Lolico started the site to learn programming. The only thing right there was the fact he was around 16 when he started.
But it could be an artifact of an older gayop. Lolico and co. were massively gangstalked by the the 9ch discord. After that guy offered to help with the CSAM spam (that he was responsible for) they started butting heads over how "purist" the site needed to be. Multiple fall outs happened and most of it in private chatrooms, most of that is a mystery. He also CSAM-flooded a couple short lived boards made by friends of Lolico to get rid of any "competition" ie 3chan.
At one point larpman straight up set Lolico's co-admin Akemi to take the fall for some manufactured drama. He secretly purged the site db then accused him of going rogue. Since the that guy cabal literally outnumbered Heruri's actual userbase by a factor of 3, Akemi was basically on his own and Lolico was peer pressured into forcing him out. Only reason he didn't also quit after was that larpman actually paid him to stay and finish the ib code.
>>159775> This brought up terrible memories for me and I need to vent really quick by yet again wishing death upon all namefags. Man I remember a lot of shitposts but as far as I know jevin never raped anyone
side note: i think i found a site bug.
No.159780
>>159779>Lolico and co. were massively gangstalked by the the 9ch discord. After that guy offered to help with the CSAM spam (that he was responsible for) they started butting heads over how "purist" the site needed to be.I will live long enough to see these people doxed so I can personally torture them to death.
No.159782
>>159779Rangebanning doesn't work on the advanced 'teens since they use Tuxler and other residential IP services. Essentially, they have access to infinite, normal IPs that they spam with.
>Anti-Flood/DiscardingWasn't this proved in the source code leak?
Also, stop calling it the "ban evasion site". Its the Sharty.
No.159783
>>159782>Also, stop calling it the "ban evasion site". Its the Sharty.Wrong site. We are talking about the ecker wrapper site made by /cumg/
Last time we went at depth on it we agreed it was better to not namedrop it.
No.159794
blue/b/ never ever;_;
No.159798
>>159794I wonder what would happen to boards like /tv/ if a blue /b/ was made. Would people stop treating it as blue /b/ or would they stay there because of tradition?
I have a feeling no new 4chan board will ever be made again without something significant happening to hiro, though.
No.159800
>>159798>I have a feeling no new 4chan board will ever be made again without something significant happening to hiro, though.inb4 someone stabs him to get a new board
No.159801
>>159798I think Hiro is all in on new boards, it's management who doesn't want to.
No.159802
>>159794>>159798There are multiple blue de-facto /b/s. They don't work.
No.159804
god 4gag is so flipping worthless
even the mindless shitposting is dead because the population is shot
now what am i supposed to do?
¥WELL, IT'S TIME TO GO OUTSIDE BACK TO REALITY™ AND BECOME A MINDLESS SLAVE TO WHORE NATURE™ AND REINTEGRATE YOUR SHADOW AND BECOME WHOOOOOOOLE AGAIN LIKE JUNG AND MARRY AND MAKE CHILDREN AND GET A JOB AND BUY PRODUCTS AND KNOW YOUR LIMITS AND MAKE YOUR ANCESTORS HAPPY AND DUMP ALL YOUR ANIME AND GAMES IN THE TRASH WHERE THEY BELONG AND THIS IS ALL LIFE AND REALITY WILL EVER BE AND YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY AND AND OPEN YOUR MOUTH IN A SOYFACE AND [blahblahblah more garbage]
aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.159806
I think what I meant to say is I really hate the people who go on the internet and try to spread normalcy everywhere. I don't think any of us deserve to go on imageboards or forums and be blasted with non-stop normalthink and shaming about how we're wrong for spending a lot of time on the internet, playing games, or watching anime as a few examples.
And I really hate this trend of dropping the internet entirely as if it were some victory. No, leaving the internet does not mean you win. It means you lost. You surrendered. That's one of the whole points of the spam and enforced correctthink. If you think the internet is warped by propaganda the "real" world is worse.
To say, I don't understand why there is so much self-deprecation. This isn't an uncommon opinion but I became rage overloaded and I ended up You screamed..
No.159807
>>159804>WHORE NATURE™Would.
No.159808
>>159804What a normalthink interpretation of the classics... That's a Freud thing, not a Jung thing... Hmph... Typical...
No.159809
>>159804reminder it's always 2AM somewhere in the world
No.159810
>>159806Honestly that's why I like kissu because it's very walled off from the rest of the faggot imageboard community, like the isolationist Korea of yore.
Just take it easy, ignore the normalfags, call them normalfags, insult them, make sure they are unwelcomed.
No.159812
>>159806I feel so much better since I stopped caring about the Internet. It's fucked up way too much to still give a damn about it (with a few exceptions.)
No.159827
>>159765>so lulz, raiding, spamming, etc. is encouraged and practiced, which is really funny if you can just look at it impartially.I don't find it funny, partially because I'm not a psychopath, and partially because the people involved don't actually find it funny. Most of what they do is naked moralfaggotry. They don't fuck with people because they think they'll be funny targets, they fuck with them because they want to bully them out of acting in a way that they disprove of, and, ideally, out of existence. This isn't something they're trying to hide, by the way, they're very open about the fact that they're out to cause harm to those that they think are deserving of punishment.
>>159812The big thing I miss about the Old Internet is that people cared a lot less. If someone threw together an image making fun of you, it's because they thought it was funny. Now, they do it because they hate your guts and want to produce propaganda that makes you look bad.
No.159828
>>159806I think the main issue with the internet is the same issue people have with IRL stuff now. In short; There are no longer real sub-cultures. Every last one of them that used to exist has been whored out for social media upvotes and the possibility of making money off attention whoring. The few sub-cultures that still exist are just waiting to be consumed by this trend or already in the process of it. Furthermore, now that the internet/social media is so common it's really hard for any new real sub-cultures to develop.
The main difference between today and when I was growing up boils down to this; In my childhood-early 20s trends didn't instantly spread and then die within 2 weeks. A trend would start some place like a west coast/east coast city. A sub-culture would develop around it. It felt like a secret club for the first couple of years (maybe decades) until eventually it would be picked up by the MSM somehow. Without the MSM it would only slowly spread out as new people naturally discovered it and started taking part. Once MSM found it then it might be mentioned on the TV now and again. But it was still mostly hidden and the MSM usually got everything about it wrong. But the MSM coverage would help it jump to a new area and a similar but distinct sub-culture like the first would maybe spring up.
As an example; I saw many trends start in say California or New York growing up. They'd already be 2-5 years old by the time they made it to where I lived. By the time we were hip to it the original people had already moved on or the culture had morphed a bit. So the "poser" version we got was always 2-5 years behind the actual epicenter of the sub-culture.
Now the above process happens in 2 days-2 weeks. Someone farts in NYC and everyone knows about it within a day or two and the MSM is doing full on documentaries about it before the end of the month. It's whored out for all it's worth quickly and instead of being something organically enjoyed it's instead used for making money at the start.
Back in the day the whoring part always came much much later. You didn't see a new genre of music spring up and then the knock off t-shirts are Wal-mart a week later. There was a gap of years before things hit the true mainstream. Now everything is mainstream. You never get a chance to live in a small bubble and be creative. Anyone that is attempting to be creative and doing something for the love/art/to make others happy is instead attempting to cash-in before the new thing even gets a chance to be seen by more than 200 people.
I probably didn't explain this well but that's my take on why everything feels fake and gay now.
No.159829
>>159827>I don't find it funny, partially because I'm not a psychopath, and partially because the people involved don't actually find it funny.This is sadly very true. The extreme hatred I see on display now for no reason is baffling to me. I guess it's partly people being awful combined with other people not wanting to appear different for fear of getting bullied. I've never liked bullies and these days it seems like everyone is bullying somebody over something that shouldn't matter at all. Ironically, some of the worst bullies are the type of people that used to get bullied hard by all of society. For all the talk of needing "safe spaces" they sure love taking those away from people they disagree with and enforcing their own ideas upon everyone else.
This I think has a lot to do with what I mentioned above. The fact that there aren't any places where true sub-cultures can spring up. You can't have your semi-secret club. You either get a place with only 10 or so people that will never be able to develop into a healthy growing sub-culture or you get mainstream garbage filled with rude, annoying, 10th level of ironic bullies. The people that claim they don't care about anything while devoting their entire lives to ruining everything anyone else cares about.
You see this on display all over social media these days and on places devoted to following so-called lolcows. In SA parlance everyone is touching the poop now. In fact, they're not only touching the poop they're picking it up then smearing it all over themselves. A lot of this behavior coming directly from people that would be lolcows themselves if they didn't spend so much time attempting to direct everyone's attention to whomever they've deemed okay to bully this week.
It has become very hard to operate any type of place where you have real rules about membership as well. Everything must be open to everyone at all times. If it isn't these bullies to what bullies do best: bully their way in and start making demands. As stated above they mostly accuse everyone of doing what they're doing. For example, the people that cry racism all of the time claiming to be progressive while being openly racist to most everyone. That's probably not the best example. It's more to do with not wanting people around that think different as you said. Usually the -isms are just an excuse that helps them squash any person/group that thinks along different lines from the mainstream.
I honestly don't understand it. Probably because like you I'm not a psychopath (or self centered, despite talking about myself too much). I can get along with most anyone excluding bullies. Bullies I can't tolerate. Not because they're mean to me personally but because they're mean to everyone. I can't stand a bully. It's a horrible way to live and it's a horrible thing to do to other people who are mostly just minding their own business or doing their own things. It's like crushing a child's dream. The innocent shouldn't be treated like that.
Having participated in my fair share of raids and such over the years (and poking fun) I'm ashamed of it. I never liked crap flooding some forum or bullying people that were just minding their own business as a group. It's shameful behavior. As long as they aren't bothering anyone else they should be left alone. Who cares what they do in their own forum/club/chat room/board/whatever as long as they aren't bothering anyone else. The moralfag bullying that's all over the internet now is particularly horrible. Attempting to bully from a so-called moral high ground is the ultimate form of being a self centered asshole.
No.159833
The "its on topic bruh" ai spammers on /a/ are gonna become a real problem sooner or later. Hiro will hopefully create an ai only board if we're lucky
No.159834
I was notified just now that that lolwut guy stepped down as the owner of Vidlii and transferred full control to the co-owner called Aniki. Is it known if the site is still Kolyma-controlled?
>>159751>The kag thingThat's a great read, thank you very much for the info!
No.159837
>>159828>>159829This all makes a lot of sense and I completely agree about the part on bullies. I wasn't part of this conversation prior to this post, the only thing that I think to see different is that I like to differentiate between harmful raids and raids that I personally would categorize to be *actually* "for the lulz".
I've never really enjoyed activities the goal of which it was to make a victim scared, sad, or break something, like manipulating them to visit prank sites with scripts. It was still funny as a teen, but even as a mere spectator it always felt bad to witness. However, I've always really enjoyed harmless pranks like crashing into a webcam lobby as a community with everyone pointing their cam to a figure, plushie or mildly offensive object or gag, then spamming the chat with nonsensical garbage. I've always viewed those things as the shut-in version of a "fun night out with friends", stupid, but not evil. I really miss things like that, but I'm happy that we at least have activities like the streams and games on here, even if I'm not participating. It's just good to know it's an option.
Another thing regarding bullying: I'm 100% in support of keeping a community in check and making sure to not allow in incompatible sub-communities or potentially problematic topics, I think that's essential in keeping a site's atmosphere, but I feel it sometimes goes too far and unnecessarily so. Like when a new anon accidentally uses a "controversial reaction pic" and immediately gets shit on by 1 or 2 people, even though it seemed obvious the person legitimately had no ill intent and was just trying to join in. It's effective, but it makes me sad to see and I hope it didn't have a lasting negative effect on those good anons that tried.
I'm aware that going easy on such posts can result in a slippery slope, there's evidence for that everywhere on the internet, I just wish there was a better way.
>>159835While it's nice to see Billy, I think the co-owner got into some small controversy to do with "unrightfully" deleting pro-Nazi accounts. I forgot the details, but I believe there was a purge on accounts with actually illegal statements and some of the more tame users got caught in the crossfire, which wasn't a good look because Aniki is known to dislike such content, even if it should be allowed (still, I think?) per the rules. I forgot all the details though.
>>159836Not to me personally. Heyuri wiki states that the site switched over to Kolyma when the owner changed in 2022 or so, but that the 3 letter guy stepped down a year later. Not sure how strong the ties between the current owner and them are.
No.159877
>>159875This is the most disgusting thing I've seen in many years.
No.159886
>>159875Of course these two incompetent attention seeking fags would be running systemd+linux and gnome.
No.159889
>>159875Does he really run fucking manjaro? Even linux newbies know that's shit these days
No.159890
>>159810if kissu had like twice or thrice its current population (judging from the recent glasses and beard polls it's around 50 people, although many of them are likely lurkers) it'd be pretty perfect desu
No.159891
>>159890You mean posting population I suppose
Imagine if we have reached some cybernetic threshold and magnitude increases in population would only result in single-digit increase in posters. Rest are lurkers
No.159892
>>159891No idea if this remains true. But I had access to the stats of many forums between the early 2000s until the mid-2010s. On just about every one there were only 1-3 posters for every 100-200 lurkers.
No.159893
>>159892forums are a different animal from imageboards
No.159894
>>159893Not really when you consider participation
No.159895
>>159894you need to make an account to even participate on forums
imageboards have a much lower barrier to entry
No.159896
>>159895The same people willing to make an account post on anonymous platforms. The people that don't want to make accounts don't post either. There is no possible way you've had as large of a sample size as I have to even know in the first place. It's easy to see the ratio of posters vs. lurkers on imageboards. It's the same thing. It's the same thing on blogs and social media too. For every 1 person posting their inner thoughts there are 10 that simply read what other people are shitting out.
No.159898
>>159896>The same people willing to make an account post on anonymous platforms. The people that don't want to make accounts don't post either.I post on forums once every 5 years on average and I post on imageboards daily, or at least once every few days if I'm overwhelmed by life.
The raw lurker-poster proportion stat might indeed be similar, as long as we're not talking of anyhow closed-off forums. Personally I do really feel like imageboards have more of exclusive subinterest/subopinion/subexpression diversity you would expect to see if more of a place's lurkers chime in sometimes. An intuitive impression.
No.159903
>>159833>ai only boardA disaster waiting to happen, that's where the next /cumg/ will come from.
No.159904
>>159837>Like when a new anon accidentally uses a "controversial reaction pic" and immediately gets shit on by 1 or 2 people, even though it seemed obvious the person legitimately had no ill intent and was just trying to join inIt's almost always a retarded thread shitter trying to play innocent and testing the waters, if it passes, the thread will get slowly bombarded with more stupid "innocent" posts of the same kind. And even IF it were truly someone
innocent, big chance it's a tourist that doesn't know it's place, if you allow that behavior it attracts more of the same retard. Of course it does often backfire when the shitter himself tries to falseflag and gatekeep a normal poster.
No.159906
>>159904It's not that I'd like such content to be allowed, but that I wish there was a more "neutral" way of getting people to adapt to the community, for example by outright banning things like the v-word - the core of Kissu is too opposed to it for it to ever lead to anything positive, making it so that it either results in obvious ragebaits, or scares away a newbie that might have been a good addition if normally told to avoid that genre. I don't intend to criticize anyone though, I fully understand the behavior because I've lost a fair share of home boards to invasions myself, I think I'm more just mentioning this for the sake of conversation and to hopefully make lurkers feel at least a little less nervous about the rougher parts.
I know it helped me when an anon on here was nice enough to explain to me the issue with the aforementioned topic, I wasn't aware of it because I don't consume the content and last talked to /jp/ on an altchan in 2014 or so. I even completely forgot about the 2D purism until I got reminded of it just recently and was lucky enough to avoid any major issues because it's not really part of the threads I usually interact with.
No.159918
>>159906>for example by outright banning things like the v-wordI don't know what you're referring to.
No.159920
>>159906> the v-wordvirgin?
we're all proud virgins here
No.159921
Moderation is an impossible thing to ever win. If you've deleted any post, at any time, for any reason, your board is considered needlessly restrictive. At the same time people are yelling at you for allowing other posts to exist without a split second deletion.
>I don't know what you're referring to.
The only thing I can think of is vtubers, but there's no such ban in place. People are free to make threads, but people are free to criticize them in a non-destructive way.
No.159924
>>159918>>159920>>159921Vtuber it is.
>>159921I think I would just enforce my own basic set of rules that I would personally deem necessary in achieving the community I'd like to maintain, even if some of those might feel unfair to certain groups of people. I think Kissu's moderation is great, maybe a bit too light in some places for my own personal taste, but I don't believe the consumer has a right to complain unless something is going so wrong that it's changing the whole site.
No.159932
>>159921>Moderation is an impossible thing to ever winOnly on a random board it is
No.159935
>>159921>Moderation is an impossible thing to ever win.You can only micromanage a small community. When it grows you must look for smarter approaches, like trying to shame posters that don't know their place. Regardless, at one point you MUST pick your poison and what kind of shitposting you'd rather allow (not to let it run rampant, of course).
Being a draconian asshole doesn't work, if you want to wrangle every poster you might as well just play with your dolls.
No.159937
>>159875>they linked upfinally, the greatest yaoi of our time
No.159942
GNFOS died again........
No.159945
>>159802Old /v/ worked great.
No.159953
>>159903I feel like a stupid nigger for asking but what the fuck is /cumg/?
No.159954
the g is ejaculating
No.159956
>>159953A general for jacking it
No.159961
>>159953One of the many children of the pandemic. I think there's at least one OG here who can explain it better than me. It started as a general for porn scrapping and quickly became closely tied to image genning and had it's own git repo where people postes crappers, models, and eventually posting tools. It got big, arguably the biggest thread in /g/.
Eventually they started getting moderated fell into a rebellious era setting up shitpost scripts and image embedders that got used to spam CSAM. That got them exiled out of /g/ in November 2021 iirc.
They moved to /trash/ for a couple months before getting canned entirely. They got invited by the admin of 2chen to become refugees there. At this point the 'ick on 'eck guy who was really active on AI proc generals decided to program a free proxy handler wrapper to get back at the mods.
A few months later the Dire Furfag came in with a zoophile crew from /an/ and started handling free proxies to everyone, getting himself invited to the dev chats. /cumg/ dies there and then as the original gang left in disgust, he sniped the ecker engine from the Italian and put up his own fork.
What remains of /cumg/ today is a corpse piloted by the furfag and his monkeyfucker friend who explicitly plans to turn their fork into a clearnet pedosite.
No.160023
Are desuarchive and archived running on the same servers? Asking because I noticed that both are down right now.
No.160032
>>158645I hate how /cm/ is full of flavor-of-the-month westoid and /co/ character art. Was it always like this? I never see this this being the case with /c/.
No.160035
>>160032/cm/, /c/, /y/, and /u/ are curious cases. Despite having been created with a focus on anime, the rules of these boards do not prohibit content from other countries or with non-anime aesthetics, and searching through the catalog and archives, you can see that the mods really don't have a problem with non-Japanese content either. However, of these four boards, only /c/ seems to maintain an unwritten rule of only posting content with an anime aesthetic; the rest have threads dedicated to Western IPs and cartoon style (and even real people in the case of /u/). Maybe it's the board's closeness to /a/ and the overlap of elitist users what keeps that rule going, or maybe it's just the board's name (ANIME/Cute) that makes people think only anime images are allowed.
Anyway, to answer your original question, yes, /cm/ has had threads about FotM series and Western originals, at least since I started visiting that board in 2017. However, the number of western threads has increased over time, possibly due to the decline of Tumblr (which used to be full of people obsessed with male characters from comics, cartoons and live-action) and the westernization of 4chan in general. Years ago cartoon content was posted in a containment "/co/ boys" thread and only extremely popular western series got their own threads (and only anime/japanese art was posted), but nowadays there are even threads for a movie about papal candidates (
https://boards.4chan.org/cm/thread/3970222) and cashgrab horror games for streamers and children (
https://boards.4chan.org/cm/thread/3950697). It's surreal but personally it doesn't bother me, and I almost prefer it that way because it gives people more reasons to use a board that nowadays is almost dead.
No.160037
After how long do good 4chan cookies go stale? Must be 2 weeks or so.
No.160038
>>160035didn't /c/ had a known nazi mod?
No.160045
>>160043Hiroshimoot still lives in Paris, right? Would be funny if they van-ed him.
No.160048
>>159774>>159779from the chatlogs that he posted I remembered it was mentioned a bunch of times.
CTRL + F "22"
https://archive.is/wLPsUhttps://archive.is/kNsZfAlso kind of funny that he tried to redact the part about what he was blackmailing him about when you can just select the redacted text directly:
>I know your name, adress, and face. I have your past residency and school attendance records. I know your entire familys names and adresses because [REDACTED] I know everything about you, and i know your personal struggles too, such as employment status, and how you are on the verge of being kicked out of your parents home. I know things about your past like you pretending to be a trap, and all that shit. I know all of your history with 22chan, and i know what you have done and what you are capable of. I know every single detail about your life, you, and your family. No.160049
>>160039That's so retarded, it's like China trying to fine 4chan for posting anti-CCP stuff despite not operating nor having servers in there.
No.160050
>>160048And this was memory holed, even in the party? Genuinely impressed that
everyone involved could be so retarded holy fucking shit No.160051
>>160048>literally who drama nobody cares aboutGo away with your discord circlejerk.
No.160052
>>160051>literal whoadmins of imageboards are literal whos?
No.160053
>>160052Yes. They are literally the spitting definition of a literal who.
No.160054
Kissu did put a word filter on a name because of the same group seeking infamy in the thread via self promotion of drama instead of actual happenings. This does seem eerily familiar...
No.160055
>>160053Well I'm sorry for discussing imageboard happenings on the imageboard happenings thread.
If you don't like it, don't post.
No.160057
>>160052>>160055Boards 99% of all image board users don't care about. It gets strange when they dominate the threads.
No.160058
>>160057Ehh it's not that. Talking about the boards is good, interpersonal drama inside discord not so much.
No.160059
>>160057I don't think an organic discussion product of something that happened this week qualifies as dominating the thread.
>Boards 99% of all image board users don't care about.So we are only allowed to talk about fullchan and halfchan?
No.160060
And i'm being generous in 8's case.
No.160061
>>160059>So we are only allowed to talk about fullchan and halfchan?It should genuinely be renamed to the 4chan happenings thread because that is 97% of the discussion here. I'm not even sure what qualifies as a "happening" to get featured in this thread as it always has to be extremely major despite how the alternative imageboard space consists of a undoubtedly small userbase where barely anything crazy can happen anyways.
You'd think people would at least post news about some place adding a new board or things similarly to that criteria.
No.160062
>>160051You didn't even read the thread you obvious subhuman 4chan refugee.
>>160057That rule sounds a little arbitrary to me and I'm not sure where it comes from. This would completely eliminate all discussion about textboards for example, which are specifically mentioned in the OP.
>>160058I feel like this ignores the context of the situation. The anon was adding info to a conversation that got started by a direct question related to imageboard (owner) history. Complaining that that additional info is tied to cord logs makes no sense if we consider the fact that a lot of older happenings with actual site-wide consequences originated in IRC and / or e-mail logs that involved at least one owner.
No.160063
>>160061>I'm not even sure what qualifies as a "happening" to get featured in this thread as it always has to be extremely major despite how the alternative imageboard space consists of a undoubtedly small userbase where barely anything crazy can happen anyways.It isn't a happenings thread without at least a hundred posts of autistic arguments on what constitutes a happening
Jokes aside. It's really just what you described: News from other IBs.
No.160064
>>160055How is admin drama an imageboard happening?
You know what would be an imageboard happening, if something was happening related to the fucking imageboard and not some circlejerk admin secret club drama between some slavic pedonigger and whatever circlejerk he managed to worm himself into this time.
Fucking newfags I swear to God.
No.160065
>>160061>You'd think people would at least post news about some place adding a new board or things similarly to that criteria.This is true, it would be nice to see stuff like this. Events or new boards and other things would help liven it up. Happenings that isn't a website imploding is a nice change of pace. They say no new is good news, but it doesn't have to be that way for imageboard stuff.
No.160066
frankly I would welcome people just posting any unusually good 4chan threads they see
that's a happening, right?
No.160067
>>160064An admin is related to his imageboard.
You remind me of that anon from recently who threatened to leave Kissu and had to eject himself from the thread with tears in his eyes and a "Bye." because not a single person cared. I get the feeling he still didn't leave.
No.160068
>>160066But is there anything unusually good going on on 4chan these days?
>>160067Wow then I guess
>>>/sum/3501 is a happening because it's related to the imageboard sphere (That's the admin!)
No.160069
>>160064>How is admin drama an imageboard happening?The happening was a previous admin reappearing in heyuri. The conversation evolved from there, and 95% of it is history talk.
You saw a discord screenshot from half a decade ago and flipped. It's ok. You are anon, you don't need to keep doubling down.
No.160070
>>160066It kind of feels like we'd be treading into the territory of the 4chan happenings thread that's still on 4chan, albeit a shadow of its former self in many ways.
It's an interesting idea, though. Maybe there would need to be a high bar to qualify, something truly unusual?
No.160071
>>160068You're again ignoring the context of the conversation in this thread, most likely on purpose because you don't care about the actual issue. Refer to
>>160062 on why your complaints are flawed and read like blind rage to others.
Why are you even here instead of on 4chan if you're unwilling to or incapable of discussing your supposed worries in an objective way? This emotional instability in post form you're dealing out is why people left, now you're bringing it here instead of engaging with your own kind.