No.165664
>>165651Malice is incompetence.
No.165668
>>165664Malice is an aesthetic choice some are competent in.
No.165670
>>165651>never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.Hanlon's razor is a fine rule in general, but you shouldn't adhere to it religiously; sometimes what looks like incompetence actually
is malice. Or it's both at the same time.
No.165696
>>165664>Malice is incompetence.You are basically outing yourself as malicious with that lie.
No.165713
>>165670>Hanlon's razor is a fine rule in generalNo.
No.165752
>>165563Educated guess this is caused by Firefox 145 changes to their anti-fingerprinting in Private Browsing, which now offends preexisting 4chan heuristics.
Post a small handful of times on a fresh header and fresh cookie and it'll ban you after a handful of posts when it can't get a read on you.
No.165753
>>165752Why the hell does Firefox use that kind of versioning standard? Jumping from 1.0 to 2.0 for minor changes, Are they retarded?
No.165754
>>165752true. it gives me a perpetual, unsolvable captcha on mullvad.
No.165755
>>165753What? They just increment the number on each normal release. Minor releases only happen sometimes, for minor fixes.
No.165758
>>165752>after a handful of postsWhat is the purpose? I'd think these heuristics are meant to stop spammers, who usually will assume they'll get banned or even IP wiped soon anyway, and just hop to the next IP and session.
No.165761
>>165758Again this is a guess but I think it's seeing what it considers to be a new users, then it sees that new users making "too many" posts, and it's weighing from the beginning it doesn't have a good fingerprint of you. So you're triggering a flood detection threshold where you're wrongly presumed to be a nefarious residential proxy.
No.165769
>>165753They changed to rapid versioning to match Chrome. Look up how long it used to take from Firefox to go from 3 to 4.
No.165788
>>165771that's on topic, you just don't like the poster.
No.165789
>>165771He reminds me of kissu
No.165799
4chan has degraded to such a degree that illegitimate users have a better experience using the site than legitimate ones. As long as that remains true we'll see more of Gabe Newell's 'piracy is a service problem' type shit unfolding where more and more users are pushed toward the very thing 4chan's supposedly fighting an existential battle with.
The proxy sites have gone from a tiny cadre of vandals and steganography fueled porn traders to just a way to use what's left of 4chan without being treated like a threat. By any measure team4chan have ironically fueled their proliferation.
No.165800
>>1657994chan will just keep getting worse because that's what Gayape wants. The site needs new mods with different approaches to moderation. Of course, that'll never happen for many reasons and excuses.
No.165801
>>165788Well yeah the poster can actually play games but he's such a pain in the ass to deal with as
>>165584 said, he would go and just keep talking to himself hoping that someone gives him attention
No.165802
>>165584He probably is banned and is just using that proxy site.
No.165803
>>165799>4chan has degraded to such a degree that illegitimate users have a better experience using the site than legitimate ones. This is hilariously and sadly true.
No.165805
>>165799How fucking deranged you have to be to think that literal mentally ill, emotionally disabled social retards who are not wanted *anywhere*, not even by the communities they are part of (because almost all ecker users are general thread posters) are somehow part of an organic process.
Let's mix topics up: Every single one of those schizos is basically roachanon. That's who you are defending.
I'm not even talking about the ones that use the tool because they won't let them talk about fucking children in the open.
Posters that are actively fucked by the rules are genuine pieces of shit who don't even have the theory of mind necessary to not sperg out at strangers on the internet. Low quality human beings.
No.165806
>>165752You might be on to something. I do use Firefox with anti-fingerprinting settings, and other sites like YouTube and Gmail have recently started blocking me in private browsing mode as well.
That rangeban expired after 3 days, but after making another 2-3 inoffensive posts, I got hit with another one. I'll test what happens if I post again (in a few days?) from a container tab with a persistent cookie.
It's beginning to feel more and more like a fool's errand though. I only visited the place for seasonal threads and yearly events anymore, but seasonal discussion has declined a lot since the hack and many events have their own off-site hangouts.
No.165808
>>165805I can't comprehend having an axe to grind so bad that you write something this stupid and obviously besides my point.
It wouldn't surprise me if this sort of short sighted seething resentment is the very animus behind 4chan's self evident self destructive behavior. The sort of resentment that lets a person turn off their brain and paint everyone affected by their idiotically broad actions as someone who must be the narrowest example of who they believe deserves to be punished the most. That's schizo shit.
I won't be team4chan's collateral damage. I won't be blacklisted by amateur hour heuristics. I won't buy a pass. I won't be the Dolphin in the Tuna net. And there are other completely banal posters like me, false positives like me, some in this very thread voicing their experience. Some will just stop posting altogether. Some will, like me, elect to use a proxy for the odd post I still make to not be hassled for something I'm not guilty of in the first place.
And that irony: The driving of increasingly regular users to use what were originally tools for only the worst of the worst posters because 4chan keeps fucking with regular god damn users, THAT is what my post was about. Is that exclusively what's proliferated the proxies? No. Is it proliferating the proxies and making them bigger and more diverse and healthier than ever? Yes, it most certainly is.
No.165809
>>165808How about just not posting on 4chan anymore instead of encouraging a child molester? You know Hiro sees the number go up and thinks he's doing good, right?
No.165810
>>165809>You know Hiro sees the number go upThe only number Hiro sees going up is his bank account. He doesn't think about 4chan or its users at all.
No.165811
>>165808It's not an axe to grind, it's being tired with dumbasses rationalizing the acts of people that were any of them posting here they would hate, just so they can keep pretending their boogieman is the problem.
The proxyfags have been discussed to death, all their dirty dishes aired. What fucking ground ground do even to have say hanging out with child porn spammers is a service problem? Do you think the tweaking meth addict in your street's corner is only tweaking because society won't let him be?
>The driving of increasingly regular users to use what were originally tools for only the worst of the worst posters because 4chan keeps fucking with regular god damn usersRegular users don't get fucking banned because they are busy discussing their hobbies and enjoying forums as accessories for their life, not their entire life.
>elect to use a proxy for the odd post I still make to not be hassled for something I'm not guilty of in the first place. And you don't have the nerve to say what you post that would get you banned.
Want a fun fact? proxyfags regularly frame regular users who don't obey them by copy spamming their posts or threads so they get banned as collateral. You are defending your abuser.
No.165812
>>165806Update: Looks like I was just unblocked. We'll see if my theory hold in ~24 hours.
No.165813
>>165811Some of the people who use that service have a genuinely strange mentality where they think they're some kind of badass outlaw that will bring justice to 4chan or something.
I've definitely been banned for bullshit reasons on 4chan... and evaded them normally. How badly do you need to fuck up where you HAVE to use that thing to evade a ban? team4chan doesn't hand out rangebans like candy from what I can tell.
I just don't respect the moderation there (and you'll probably understand if you had the misfortune of interacting with them on IRC) but I don't understand the guys who make it their life's mission to make them hit the "delete & ban" button slightly more.
No.165815
https://hiddenservice.cc/bans, a site that kept a record of public bans, was shut down 3 days ago because mods at 4chan stopped reporting their bans, making the site useless:
https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/23632459/#23645011https://185.10.68.107:1776/ (4bans, the owner never bothered to get a new domain) seems to be down as well, but the owner didn't announce its shutdown. It was another site that listed public bans.
No.165816
>>165813>team4chan doesn't hand out rangebans like candy from what I can tell. This thread says otherwise. Either they or some automated system is handing out rangebans like tap water.
No.165817
>>165816I don't think they're real rangebans. They're some sort of subterfuge.
No.165818
>>165817Does the difference matter from a well-mentioned user's perspective? If they can't post, they don't know why. and they don't know how to fix it, they will stop posting and go elsewhere while the ban evaders this system is meant to block will keep ban evading.
No.165819
>>165818*well-intentioned
No.165823
Probably the only good thing about not ever having used 4chan is that I can go to a board and enjoy whatever is there without having any preconceptions of how it ought to be. Although much like with food, eating the same things regularly starts making the poor quality more obvious.
No.165824
>>165823How did you find out about kissu and presumably other imageboards?
No.165825
Guys. I have some horrible news about ota.
No.165826
>>1658248chan through a friend in middleschool.
No.165828
>>165813> a genuinely strange mentality where they think they're some kind of badass outlaw that will bring justice to 4chan or something.If only they did it because they have a little australian in them and genuinely enjoy shit(te)posting.
Most are overattached control freaks trying to spite this or that thread / poster who does things they don't like. 4chan completely mindbreaks this type of person as they don't have any way to actually force people to do what they want without burning the whole place down - so that's exactly what they do.
No.165843
Do you even know the kind of """people""" that are behind the proxy cabal?
No.165845
>>165825That time of the month?
No.165846
>>165811>And you don't have the nerve to say what you post that would get you banned.Not him, but:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283987267/#284018392>Global Rule 13: Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.1 day ban.
No.165847
>>165824>>165826Huh. I don't even dare to speak about imageboards IRL. Am I the only one that discovered Kissu though the message in the 4chan X userscript?
Offtopic: I added an entry for 4chan on the site blocker extension (and I will probably blacklist it on the router later to make it harder to circumvent). Every time I end going there for one reason or another, I always regret it.
No.165848
>>165846you linked to this happening to you before and i still don't get it
why post sophie in the gochiusa thread? how'd you start doing that?
No.165849
>>165848It's common to post other characters in gochiusa threads. But somehow, only sophie triggers the mod. Posting sophie was ok at first, but now it's a sure ban. But seemingly only when a specific mod is online.
No.165851
>>165816I remember a few years ago I couldn't post anything because all of the IPs I used were range banned, but I guess thats why they switched captchas and made the posting more extraneous, since they were losing post count.
>>165824I visited chiru.no and found their site list had a lot of good spinoff boards and kissu was on it. I think the owner pulled the plug tho, so its gone now
No.165854
>>165849Seems straightforward enough to explain. The mod probably banned someone posting Sophie and is mistaking people posting her for the ban evader. The mod can't prove it, and he knows he's going to be doing a lot of collateral damage and that the evader would just switch proxies anyway, so he goes with an unappealable 1-day ban. Stupid but not mysterious.
No.165856
>>165559Don't forget the "female lurkers" guy
No.165857
>>165854Nah, he just bans everyone. It didn't start with a ban evasion. You're just another dumbfuck trying to explain irrational mod behavior.
No.165858
>>165857>It didn't start with a ban evasion.How can you be sure of this? I'm not saying the mod is being rational, but I doubt he just decided to start doing that out of the blue. There must be some narrative, possibly false, in the mod's head that justifies to himself what he's doing.
No.165859
>>165846literally 3 posts in
>dead generalThere you have it. You likely have an history of shitposting, or someone in the stealth general does
No.165860
>>165858Don't bother. Arguments like this always boil down to people in general threads trying to control the vibe of their community and getting pissy when mods realize they are being disruptive.
I swear we need to make a frmal division between fandom generals and "purposed" generals with an actual reason to be a general. The quality discrepancy between both is a larger than the grand canyon.
No.165862
>>165860I think there are different types of generals, here's my subjectively correct list.
>StorytimesCatalogue bloat
>""Stealth"" genre generalsYuri threads, Isekai threads, those gay threads that always have the same picture
>"Purposed" generalsDrawfag, scanlation, buyfag, that kind of stuff.
>Anime from PREVIOUS seasons generalThis is most of the board, instead of one-off threads, you have a bunch of faggots that basically monopolize discussion as long as nothing is airing because nobody gives a fuck about the source for these anime.
>Shounen Jump generalsPractically just /opg/, /csm/, and /dbs/ (migrated to /ghost/ after the purge) nowadays. Maybe also Kagurabachi threads (previously /kgb/) even though there's only two threads a week.
No.165863
>>165860You know nothing about gochiusa threads. The mods don't either. I guess you feel good making up stupid explanations for things you don't understand.
No.165864
>>165863>You know nothing about gochiusa threads. Pfft the mere fact you are saying "gochiusa threads" as if they were a standalone community is enough to get the full picture.
You are not even special in being one, there's more than two dozen stealth gens in /a/ despite being like, 1/4th the size of /v/.
No.165866
>>165862>and /dbs/ (migrated to /ghost/ after the purge) nowadays.ghost are the die hards, dbs general split and half went to the /co/ death battle general, which somehow managed to force them to actually be on top topic. now you get unironic anime powerlevel discussion on co of all places.
I feel obliged to acknowledge dbs also managed to grow beyond general status and become actual 4chan culture.
No.165868
>>165866>went to the /co/ death battle generalI had no idea since I never use /co/
No.165869
>>165862there is nothing wrong with storytimes
No.165870
>>165847I held and still hold little reservation over talking about anything if it's brought up.
No.165871
>>165858one of the resident /a/ schizos used to avatarfag as Sophie, that's why mods are trigger happy about it. that's the reason
No.165872
>>165869>nothingThey could just dump one volume a week instead of having a thread permanently up occupying catalogue space.
No.165874
>>165871Which resident schizo?
No.165875
>>165847a 21yo kohai asked me why i'm browsing 4chan and i wtf'd and straight up told him he's too young to know about this foreign language meme forum
No.165876
>>165875One of my friends literally guessed I'm a 4chinner from "my vibe"
No.165879
>>165876Shit, don't even tell me about that. I haven't been able to completely lose certain patterns of formatting, speech, expressions and community specific jargon that can easily out you to another 4channer. And in certain areas of internet, I need to be pretty careful with that.
It's like that pool. If someone becomes red faced upon seeing the image, they are in the know.
No.165880
>>165878I want to suck their toes so much I'd turn the foot worship session into an imageboard happening to surpass the April 4chan hack
No.165881
>>165879To be fair, the dude that called me out is also a touhoufag and kinda obsessed with Koishi.
It takes one to know one.
No.165883
50353445
Do have to wonder if /jp/ mods just really like taking the piss, lol
There was another made immediately after that one, both are still up
No.165884
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/284008424130 deleted posts, and no end. Another demonstration how the mods are not in control at all.
No.165886
>>165883>>165884DONT think ack or tuberspam are happenings
No.165889
>>165886The way this is "managed" by the mods is a new level of disappointment.
>>165887So we're only supposed to talk about your clique's obscure image board network that have like 100 users in total?
No.165892
My fap session is more of a happening than your constant whining about boards you can't control.
No.165904
>>165889no, but we are not your fucking placebo for customer support
No.165915
Is ota and gnfos down for everyone or just me?
No.165916
>>165915the ssl cops got ota
gn moved to a .vip domain a while ago
No.165926
>>165884I caught a 3 day for talking ABOUT ack and this faggot will continue to spam threads until the end of time.
No.165927
>>165916Ota is inaccessible. This doesn't happen unless the IP no longer has anything on it.
No.165937
>>165927I know. The cops warned him multiple times to get his SSL certificate in order and he didn't do it so they deleted the site.
No.165940
>>165937what the fuck are you talking about?
No.165941
>>165940it's true i saw it happen in real time
No.165944
>>165926That's just their broken logic.
No.165945
>>165879I have the same problem. I have a really hard time breaking out of 4chan-esque writing, because I started using that site at a young enough age that it's all I've ever really done.
In general, it's weird to think just how much 4chan has shaped me as a person, considering I don't really think of myself as a "4chan guy" at this point. I definitely started using the site at way too young of an age. A middle-schooler shouldn't have fifteen tabs worth of racial-slur filled arguments about trivial things going at once, and he especially shouldn't be clicking back and forth between them obsessively, trying to get the last word in all of them. People say being surrounded by that kind of thing toughens you up, but in reality, it does the opposite. You come to think that that level of intensity is the norm, that people in general are stupid assholes, and it makes you irrationally depressed about the world around you.
No.165961
>>165884That thread could have just been deleted for low effort…
No.165990
>>165875You know the average age of a new 4chinner is like 15, right?
No.165993
>>165990I wanted to say something but then I realized that I was like 16-17 when I first found it.
Time is fucking stupid, we should stop doing it.
No.165995
>>165945In my case I would say that 4chan has changed me for the better. It has had its hiccups sure, but overall I have become more critical of reality and aware of different perspectives. Its still massively more open and free than other sites despite its jannies... and more lulzy too.
Now, what I DO think is its biggest problem nowadays is the perception of relationships and women. Its completely divorced from reality and in all honesty is probably some crest research/government/etc. campaign to destroy the minds of young men. Sexuality is such an enormous part of humanity and if you're a believer of the supernatural the energy behind it is lucrative. Using boards like /r9k/, /fit/, and /pol/ is a net negative experience nowadays.
No.165997
>>165990I remember reading something like
"the cool thing amongst high schoolers now is going to 4chan. It's not under the iceberg anymore", but I still tend to think that they end in Tiktok and Twitter first and the mean age of a 4tard is their early 20s (which was my age when I found about it).
>>165995/pol/ was always a mistake, but when not losing users (and potential growth/profits) matters more than the well being of users, shit happens.
No.166001
>>165990in 2012 maybe.
average poster on /pol/ is old enough to be my dad and i'm my 30s. /v/ the "youngest" board has people talking about their wife, job and children on every thread. anonymous IB are senpai things now, the few kids that are there do because they can't be kids on their communities ie get banned from a games discord for being retarded
No.166007
>>166001The idea of people on 4chan having wives and kids is so perverse to me.
No.166019
>>166001even on sites like wap and hikari where the staff are all in their 20s they still heavily enforce 18+ and ban underage on sight
No.166020
>>166019I'm in my late 20's now but I've been on 4chan since I was about 13. It's really not that hard to get around the age rule on an anonymous site where you can post without an account.
No.166021
>>166019As one should, nobody wants to have teenbros running about the site, attracts the feds.
No.166022
>>166017I know this MO. Someone from the proxyfag site tried an hostile takeover, down to advertising the proxy site to "stealth" spamming pizza.
No.166023
>>166017> its funny how so many people are just waiting for the website to die.And this line is quite sus now that I think of it.
No.166029
>>166017don't ban. shadowban and hard redirect these people to mental health resources (or goatse) idk.
that's what I'd do if I was an imageboard admin.
No.166030
>>166017>>166022almost every general on there suffers from this now
No.166031
>>165608I wouldn't want to condone accelerationism but if I ever see thread bullshittery happen like "/v/hu getting angry and possessive about their drawfags going to 4/jp/ that they start harassing them in 4/jp/ threads and trying to incite drama to like keep them confined to /v/ like they're abusive spouses or something", "tourists attempting to pretend to be /jp/sie natives and harassing people for threads about other /jp/ topics like Rozen Maiden" or "the cabal formed from the various AI generals in other boards deciding to pick a fight with 4/jp/'s general for not being chic enough"
I'll be sure to remind people they have options (though I don't think I've ever convinced someone to make the move personally)
>>165995I infinitely value my time spent on imageboards and small forums than I do on any social media platform precisely because of that
>>166007One of the drawfags in current 4/jp/ is tewimom and she's literally a mother of four who's indoctrinating all her kids into becoming 2hu fans
This isn't a joke. No.166036
>>166029You wouldn't make it as an imageboard admin.
No.166037
>>166031I did not actually expect someone to have four children and raise them with 2hu dolls..
No.166040
>>166031>>166037it's always gonna be lame as fuck to have to force your kids to like anything.
>>166029regular bans work fine and are transparent. shadow bans massively reduce the trust in the administration
No.166046
>>165995I would proably say the same as seeing so many fuck ups in the site made me push to improve myself so I don't end up like them.
I think one of the most life changing quotes I've seen is that people there would spend their entire lives living other people's lives instead of their own.
No.166048
>>166017Why is it always discord?
No.166096
>>165995Is there any imageboard that isn't unbearable like that and doesn't ban those topics like relationships and self improvement?
Kissu could do with a board for that stuff. Kidding, not.
>>166046do you have the quote?
That is kinda me. But I have no motivation to improve myself even though I think I want to. Probably depressed and definitely anxious and too scared to do anything. Completely wasted the past few years. I don't want to stay like this.
No.166121
>>165937ota was my favorite site and otamin just let it die its NOT fair
No.166123
>>166096wapchan has /kind/ which allows those topics
No.166124
>>166123Yeah but /kind/ sucks ass.
No.166126
>>166124ota would have survived if you didn’t make henri leave
No.166129
>>166096>relationships and self improvement?>Kissu could do with a board for that stuff. Just try a thread on /qa/
No.166130
>>166129By the way I have no idea whether that won't get the thread deleted.
No.166131
>>166096>do you have the quote?I would need to find it
No.166274
For real tho, where did the ota posters even go? They were so reluctant to go here and I don't see any trace of them elsewhere, from Nen to GN.
No.166275
>>166096wizard chan probably
No.166278
>>166275That's a bit ironic but those types of boards are perfect for those kinds of topics.
No.166281
>>166280really not escaping from the cp huh.
No.166309
4taba is no more
No.166313
>>166309ripperino but isn't this like the fourth time it died
No.166315
>>165811You're a god damned illiterate moron who can only ignore context and invent straw men.
I was never banned.
No.166318
>>166309vern has failed us...
No.166319
and I'd keep getting away with it too if it weren't for you medling rodents
No.166344
>>166315Right, and you just happen to jump in the defense of proxyfags twice in a row.
Of course you can claim you weren't the guy who got his posts deleted yesterday, but it would be an incredible coincidence that you just accidentally brought the topic back again.
No.166345
lolz, this argument is so inorganic
No.166347
>>166346Well I asked what happened to 4taba and i sitll havent gotten an answer
No.166348
it went poof
No.166349
>>166347should give it to wapchan
No.166352
>>166346nothing ever happens
No.166371
>>166347Was shot in detroit
No.166384
>>166383You can tell it's truly a dead board when they'll sticky a megacorp ad for free just because it has cirno in it.
No.166385
>>166383>>166384Locking replies to that sticky makes it look even more like a straight up advert.
No.166388
>>166387I think it's the first Touhou sticky in 5+ years? Or did the last release have a sticky for it?
No.166389
>>166388I can't remember any Touhou release getting a sticky.
No.166394
>>166393For context, this has happened multiple times and is currently happening if you check the last post in most current threads. At least Kissu does a pretty smart thing by having deleted posts undo their bumps.
No.166397
>>166393Why are they angry?
No.166398
>>166397They're unimpressed at your penis
No.166400
>>166383The only time mods care about touhou is when corpos give them advertisement neetbux. /jp/ is the normalfag board now, so no more reason to go there.
>>166393Thats been going on longer than /vt/umers invading, the idol threads did that kuso all the time.
No.166404
>>166403I'd say it's 50/50, I think they took it down because they were done humoring the local population.
No.166407
>>166403Nah, they just likely put the sticky down because the mods don't give a fuck about non-idolfag non-vtumor /jp/
No.166411
Creating /jp/ was moot's only real mistake.
No.166413
>>166411¥making moderation anonymous and unaccountable¥Naruto Day¥advertising /jp/¥expanding the board selection beyond nerdy hobby stuff¥continuing to do so after newcomers kept starting fights with the natives and drawing unwanted attention and legal trouble¥never reversing unpopular decisions despite overwhelming negative feedback¥selling the site to a known scumbag¥not demanding any kind of veto power after the saleI'd say he has a lot more to answer for than "why did you make a 2hu board"
No.166427
>>166411the 2 tiers system between janitors and mods is completely unnecessary and serves no purpose at this point.
Literally came to be because most mods were moot's irl friends and he couldn't order them around.
Now the moderation pipeline is all kinds of fucked because jannies are literally gimped on their ability to moderate, and have to depend on mod approval to use half the tools that are "only for mods" for literally no good reason when the entire thing can be streamlined by having mods check activity logs instead of moderate directly and let jannies work their boards independently.
4chan's management practices are basically a case study for the necessity of human resources departments.
No.166428
>>166427>the necessity of human resources departments.I have to deal with HR daily and I can say this is a bad example.
No.166429
>>166400I only go there for the Vocaloid and 07th Expansion threads at this point. And both of them are kuso but sometimes there are a few good posts.
No.166432
>>166428I mean real HR not the "customer service for employees" meme.
No.166434
>>166427>the 2 tiers system between janitors and mods is completely unnecessaryAt 4chan's scale, having multiple tiers of staff is probably unavoidable. Admins of small imageboards can just appoint trusted friends as mods, but that stops scaling once they need to hire more mods than they can get to know personally.
A 2-tier system could help with vetting and promotion if the board software had some kind of staff reputation system, mods actually cared, and the admin/head mod didn't play favorites.
For example:
Assign each mod to one or two boards based on their affinity with the board's topic and culture. Have each board's mods interview prospective jannies and hire them by blind majority vote. Track the amount of hours per week each janny is online, their ratio of interventions per hour, and the percentage of their interventions that align with the majority. (New jannies have a trial period during which their actions only take effect after 3 jannies agree.)
Once their trial period ends, give jannies with a high enough hours-to-approved-inte
rventions ratio the power to hand out short bans, but track the ratio of bans that are successfully appealed and silently shadowban jannies whose appeal ratio is too high. (The "silently" part is important to weed out infiltrators. Keep them working without knowing if they have any power to make sure power isn't their motivation.)
Mods must post one "state of the union" sticky per year where they answer meta questions. Admins review their answers, give mods one warning if they seem out of touch with the community, and fire them if they don't improve after one year. Jannies that serve for multiple years with a good ratio are first in line when new mods need to be appointed.
Of course, the simpler solution is to split your site before it grows to the point where it needs that kind of organizational overhead, because any community with a 5+ digit number of posters is probably too internally divided to be a real community.
No.166438
Why is whining about /jp/ allowed and welcomed, but not whining about /a/?
No.166439
>>166438I don't like dealing with children. So stop behaving like one.
No.166440
>>166427>the entire thing can be streamlined by having mods check activity logs instead of moderate directly and let jannies work their boards independently.That's a good point. Why not do this? Have the mods moderate the jannies instead.
No.166441
>>166439So you can't explain it. OK.
No.166442
>>166441The thread is full of /a/ complaints. Dozens if not hundreds. Lose the victim complex.
No.166444
>>166443A sloppy takedown attempt prepares for a possible organized and competent one. Nice going, shartumors.
No.166445
>>166443Would be a shame if it does go down for a little while, at least Ive got 204 GB of loli porn downloaded just in case
No.166446
>>166443One of their devs seemingly posted on /g/ too.
No.166449
When I was using gelbooru far back it had an issue with cp. So does Pixiv to be honest but they're more proactive in dealing with it.
Who knows if this is actually the issue though. The false report thing might be them pretending.
No.166450
>>166449Are you serious? The sharties are not even subtle about spamming fake reports.
No.166452
>>166443Should switch to Anubis
No.166453
>>166449I wonder if Gelbooru and the other boorus gets the same issue lots of imageboards get where a malicious user or users insist on manually spamming CP links, sometimes at timeframes (but never at the same exact time, hence why I believe it's not a bot). This list tracks down the spammer accross multiple sites, though some sites are so fast at deleting it they don't get registered:
https://xj9k.neocities.org/ No.166456
>>166450dunno. I'm just figuratively saying that gelbooru isn't some innocent entity.
No.166457
>>166456How the fuck is it not?
No.166469
I cannot believe there's no global rule against sharteens, not even after the hack. They're a subhuman scourge and need to be exterminated.
No.166470
>>166452Depending on the tier and settings used, Cloudflare does more than just stop DoS attacks and bots/scrappers and can't be replaced with just Anubis.
No.166473
>>166456Ive never seen CP on gel (and I browse daily) so they seem to be doing a good enough job cleaning it up, I dont see how its the boorus fault an occasional cunt posts illegal images there
No.166474
>>166473>I dont see how its the boorus fault an occasional cunt posts illegal images thereMy guess is anon you're replying to is baiting in bad faith.
Many much cases lately.
No.166475
>>166469the staff loves frogs and cancer men
No.166476
>>166473>>166474Posting images on Gelbooru requires first accruing enough reputation to enable it, you can't freely post it as if it were an imageboard or some other regular file hosting service, and once posted images are publicly listed for all to see, you can't hide them. Unless that retard posts any sort of evidence whatsoever, there's no reason to believe Gel has anything close to a CP problem.
No.166477
>>166476What are the chances the 4 makes users create accounts in order to be able to use the site?
No.166479
>>166477Practically null, it'd be suicide and everyone knows it.
No.166482
>>166479I mean the staff feels very disconnected from the userbase, they could do it if it means fighting the spam
No.166485
>>166477What's surprising to me is that people think they don't already have stealth accounts on the 4. Think about it, Cloudflare fingerprints your device and you are forced to post from your home IP.
No.166489
>>166485For that, it's too easy to evade bans without changing your fingerprint. They might record it for legal reasons (or cloudflare will record it), but they're not using it to identify ban evaders.
After all these years, known spammers like ACK still spam regularly. Imagine if ACK spammed CP instead of schizo delusions.
No.166491
>>166490
You seem to be talking about how some anti-tr*nny memes use ack like a sound effect? ACK in my post is a specific person (Anti Crack Kun) who has nothing to do with that topic. He's been spamming schizo delusions since around 2011 and nobody can stop him. There's a "community" of counter-schizos who specifically bait him and try to summon him. A thread infested by both is usually lost.
No.166498
>>166489anything fingerprint and above requires asking desuwa to get involved.
you could probably stop ACK with a simple browser fingerprint ban. likely been done before too. but the next browser update rolls out, he changes mobile device, and you have to do it again.
cloudfare likely deleted most data and would never let you use it to ID users either way.
No.166499
>>166498>ut the next browser update rolls out, he changes mobile device, and you have to do it again.Exactly. That type of schizo will shy no effort to get around any such blocks. If 4chan would act competent and quick, you could probably frustrate him by completely blocking him after a first post, even if he went through trouble like buying a new mobile device just to evade his ban. But the 4chan staff is slow, incompetent, and uncaring. It's the detroit of websites.
>cloudfare likely deleted most data and would never let you use it to ID users either way.Really? It's probably very easy to find out what data cloudflare supplies to website admins, but I've never tried to read their API docs.
No.166501
It's down.
No.166502
so is cloudflare dead again
Downdetector doesn't work either
No.166504
it's so fucking over
No.166505
Maybe they will decentralize the internet
lol
No.166506
we are so fucking back
No.166554
Crazy how people are okay with middlemen like cloudflare controlling the entire internet. It's such a dystopia.
No.166559
I rarely post on 4 anymore but when I did a few days ago I noticed that each time I could post once, then get temporarily blocked to persuade me to register an email. I thought at first it was just my phone, so I switched to work wifi but then it happened again.
Curiously, it resets. So I could jump between my connections and just onepost each time.
No.166560
>>166559>then get temporarily blocked to persuade me to register an email. I thought at first it was just my phone, so I switched to work wifi but then it happened again.for real? i am in one of the "bot" countries according to the source code and never had this problem.
No.166561
>>166499>Really? It's probably very easy to find out what data cloudflare supplies to website admins, but I've never tried to read their API docs.iirc it's just the geoloc data from IPs and the cloudfare ray (which iirc2 is just the unique id for the packet).
unless the ray includes packet contents, i doubt they store anything the webmaster can't store. Real question is how often the delete the logs because they certainly won't store them forever - they service 1/3rd of the entire internet.
No.166562
>>166499>, you could probably frustrate himFrustrating the autistic?
My friend, please. Reconsider your reasoning.
The hard facts is that ACK or any persistent single schizo is too low intensity to bother desuwa with it. Desuwa's status as an employee is unknown and it's likely he's not full time. No.166572
Wapchan added snow for the holidays
No.166577
>>166572No yellow snow for me to eat?
No.166585
>>16657239chan also turned red and added christmas hats
No.166589
>>166572Hikari also added snow and has an audio playing
No.166638
22chan experienced some snowfall.
It's freezing out there.
No.166640
>>166578It's secular over here, buddy
No.166643
>4chan moderation is so neglectful I can shitpost on a trusted session instead having to bother with proxies
So convenient!
No.166660
I hate these JS snow effects because they are too resource-intensive for my potato laptop and blocking the specific resources responsible for them is a pain in the ass.
No.166661
>>166660Then disable JS altogether. I'm pretty sure most boards work without it.
No.166664
>>166660they are. A lot of the webpage special effects are very poorly optimized because they move the parts of the page around, which requires recalculations of the webpage every time it moves.
No.166665
this isn't really a javascript problem btw, it's a problem of missusing the browser's HTML rendering engine to produce effects. The proper way to do this might be with the HTML5 Canvas, but I'm not sure if this allows for cursor pass through so what you have problems with is the best we've got..
No.166667
>>166666aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAA
No.166671
🚧 4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance at 11AM EST on Monday the 8th 🚧
No.166672
>>166671It's happening 🗣️🔥
🔥🔥🔥
No.166690
>>166671when is the unscheduled one gonna happen again
>>166677maybe they will actually update their stupid code now
No.166696
>>166660you know most of those boards are just using a gif background and not js for the snow, right?
https://wapchan.org/static/snowfall-dark.gif No.166712
>>166705>downtime at the most active time of the dayHigh IQ!
No.166716
>>166712It's not going to matter. Did they tell you how long 4chan will be down? Bet you didn't think about that.
No.166717
It's dead
No.166719
>>166712I don't know where this weird sarcastic sentence fragment with an exclamation point trend started, but I'm officially sick of it. It reeks of the kind of social media irony poisoning that I come to a place like this to escape.
No.166722
>>1667194chan, around 20 years ago.
No.166723
>>166717I'm glad it's over.
No.166724
>>166722I'm not a "true" oldfag, but I got on 4chan over a decade ago, and I didn't see this kind of humor pop up until later.
No.166726
>>166724What, it’s been around forever.
No.166727
>>166719Sincere exclamation marks are relatively common on kissu, although not in this thread which operates as more of an embassy. You'll have to set your standards lower for this thread I'm afraid.
No.166729
>>166727Why didn't you get triggered at least by
>>166689 or something?
No.166730
>>166729I'm telling him that this thread has a different culture than wider kissu, such as telling people that they're "triggered".
No.166731
>>166719>officiallythank you for being official
No.166739
>>166719>I don't know where this weird sarcastic sentence fragment with an exclamation point trend startedReal life, letters, literature.
No.166741
The most I expect are some small security fixes, nothing more.
No.166743
>>166741>>166742Why did I double post
No.166745
>>166719You are hallucinating things.
No.166746
>>166745Someone give him his daily dose, quick!
No.166750
What changed, other than the catalog not updating?
No.166756
>>166753Whatever it is, the catalog is definitely broken. I wonder how many "back" threads anons are posting which nobody can see now.
No.166757
>>166756probably a hilarious amount of them will fill the front pages and all the generals could die, hopefully
No.166759
>>166756It just fixed itself. 5 tenshi threads on /a/ with 0 replies.
No.166760
Wow that was quick
No.166761
>>166759And all of them got deleted. The mods don't even want us to celebrate that kuso sites return.
No.166762
>>166761It was scheduled there's no reason to make them
No.166765
I refuse to believe there are people retarded enough to want IDs on all boards. They're just malicious.
No.166767
>>166765I prefer not having them, but going to the 8 has taught me that they do keep people in check (the less insane ones at least) what makes the difference is how much the staff care about.
No.166777
>>166772Everytime I see Santania it makes me remember those doujinshi and fanart made by greatmosu, amazing.
No.166778
>>166777it makes me remember schizoid avatarfags
No.166779
>>166778Never seen one myself
No.166783
>>166780Go to dev, charts are still in but something got fucked after the hack
No.166799
Is Cloudfart dead again?
No.166807
>>166780>>166783What's the difference between post/min and activity?
No.166809
>>166780The charts broke when the hack happened and /qa/ was deleted for real, so the dev removed them in hopes of reworking the entire site one day. He sometimes posts in /bant/'s happening threads under a german flag.
No.166843
I've seen shartyfags on multiple obscure imageboards lately, even on non-eng speaking ones, even Steam has animated picture of a wojak sucking on something.
What the hell is going on?
No.166844
>>166843they became mainstream, oddly enough
No.166845
>>166844When did this happen?
No.166846
>>166845Twittertards took the meme over.
Shartyteens are just twittertards (none of them are from the /qa/ of old) to be quite frank with you family man.
No.166847
>>1668453ish years ago.
It's already getting old and going the way of meme faces.
No.166849
>>166848That's right! The addition of a blotter thingie this year means I can inject CSS into every page, so even the happenings threads gets to indulge in
kawaii spirit. There's a
[Toggle Effects] button at the top to disable (or re-enable) it.
>>166845You'd need to define what "mainstream" is since they started as template console war wojaks on /v/ in 2016 or so? Once it became its own subgenre of all-purpose templates instead of insular /v/ shitposts is when I'd say it went mainstream, which was around 2019. You could also just say they're the latest incarnation of rage comics which have been popular since 2011 or around that time.
No.166852
>>166849The recent ones used for raids.
No.166860
>>166847They're already struggling to remain relevant
No.166894
>>166849Honestly never thought rage comics were that bad despite overstaying their welcome. The problem I have with wojaks is how people started to make extremely vile/vulgar reincarnations of them and have them be used for spam and/or malicious activities.
No.166904
>>166845About a year ago, the website shocks people with how much content there is within it's sphere.
No.166924
>>166860>Struggling to remain relevantThis couldn't be further from the truth unfortunately. Cancer men are ubiquitous in normie social media now, twittards especially love using them in viral posts to win arguments against people they don't like (even left leaning people). As of recently the site itself got gelbooru in legal trouble while facing basically negative repercussions.
No.166939
>>166930The site got normiefied by the mid 2020's from what I've been told and the 4chan hack probably helped with that.
I've actually seen this conspiracy theory on another imageboard that the 4chan hacker redirected to SJ in order to attack their site as well in the process.
No.166942
>>166939from what I could infer from the person behind the attack, they totally would want to bring displeasure to both
No.166944
>>166939That's barely even a conspiracy theory. It takes someone with knowledge of 4chan's software stack and (lack of) organizational structure to come up with that hack. Anyone with that level of inside knowledge would also understand the cultural context of 4chan and its spinoffs, so they would expect the bad press to result in DDoS attacks on both the target and the perceived perpetrator. Connect the dots, and the attacker's profile is that of a troll trying to play two camps against each other for his own amusement.
No.166981
Is it me or they added a new type of captcha to 4chan? it's been giving me a brain fart
No.166988
I don't know where to ask but I'm curious about something, what's the lore behind soku threads on 4/v/?
No.166997
>>166988All I know about soku is that they moved to wapchan and that's the only place of any worth with soku discussion
No.167005
>>166997I know about it.
>>166995Well I wanted to know because I stumbled upon a post explaining how those times were dark as fuck.
No.167010
>>167009I, for one, am happy to see cancerman go the way of the ragecomic.
No.167011
>>167009is this the sharty meet up pic?
No.167012
>>167009Damn this makes me remember that I had a shirt with a giant trollface when I was a kid....
No.167015
Furries are eternal though
No.167016
That's a photoshopped image. I don't know why you guys are talking as if that's something kids are into.
No.167018
>>167012Anon, your memories are photoshopped!
No.167019
>>167012Your memories were fabricated to help make you seem more human to real people.
No.167021
¥nice thread
¥one guy randomly uses the word "yuri" completely out of context (only time it was used in the thread)
¥ACKbot 3000 shortly starts spamming
Not a happening or anything, but sometimes I wonder how does the nigger behind the bot operate. Nowadays he probably just has a gold account on that furry faggot's site.
No.167023
>>167021Lately it feels like most threads might trigger some kind of bot after some topic is mentioned.
No.167024
>>167023I suppose most bots are very vague with their stuff so it doesn't look as blatant.
No.167026
>>167024Today I saw a thread that had some webms being posted with some vague text related to the video, the exact same style as those bots that fill the comment section of twitter's posts with high views.
No.167027
>double digits of new posts
>not a single happening
No.167029
>>167028LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOO
No.167030
>>167027Dead internet theory
No.167042
>>167027a kuso general and the unrelated spam drives any actual happenings into the archives. impossible for this thread to just stay dormant until an actual happening because a bunch of angry kids have made this their home place to kuso talk 4chan any chance they get.
No.167044
When did 403chan become a 404chan? What did I miss?
No.167046
>>167045>The IPs are encrypted, despite IPs never being publicly shownisn't this a good thing? what if someone breaks in?
i wonder if sriracha is any better. it's the same thing written in Go.
No.167063
>>167062Discovered coffee...
No.167066
>>167044What was 403chan? Looks like an attempt at making an english Futaba Channel from the archive you linked.
No.167155
To facilitate both the naturally slower discussion of non-4chan imageboards and rapid 4chan meta talk, the two are now split into separate threads. The new home of 4chan talk is at >>167154
Today's 4chan discussion will be moved into the new thread to get the thread started.
Please move 4chan discussion there!You can give feedback about the change here or in the new thread, but I think this is the solution that will best satisfy everyone.
No.167222
>>167217Nice Nekone image.
(but Kuon is better)Both, I guess? Separating a meta thread from complaints is a difficult if not impossible task for any mortal to accomplish. As long as it's centered on 4chan there's probably no harm.
While it's not permission to turn the new thread into a complaint box, it may just come with the territory. The goal is to allow this thread to have more varied talk about niche subjects again without it being crowded out while also allowing people to talk about 4chan as much as they want in a different thread. We'll see how it goes.
No.167238
>>167222reminds me when the /hgg/ general split /aa2g/ and /hgg2d/ and all that, it'll probably work.
No.167254
>>167238>porn thread splits>workingcursed fucking statement
No.167264
>>167254But it's true though? all of those threads are still up and running as far as I'm concerned.
No.167269
>>167254Who are you quoting?
No.167286
Kohlchan has been down for the entire day. Doesn't maybe sound like a happening but i cant recall the last time the site was down for this long.
No.167287
>>167286Since this gives me the opportunity to ask: Would you happen to know the difference between Kohl and the (somewhat new?) .org of Kraut? I haven't been browsing the original Kraut since 2013 or so and all I heard was that it eventually died and people seemed to have moved to Kohl, which is why it confuses me that there are two different sites now.
No.167289
>krautchan
I used this for a while before 2010, until I realized everyone there was a faggot.
No.167290
>>167287I don't know the difference. All i know is that someone got the domain a couple of months back. Kohlchan is still the main site. I would say its kind of like bernd.group. A splinter site.
No.167312
>>167287KC org is unrelated to kohl. Both are successors.
The KC admin said his goodbyes in the late 10s. Mostly because he had nothing in common with neither mods or posters anymore, he was a 2000s beast.
>>167286suggesting kohl is near death is not a surprise to me. People have been saying this was inevitable, mods have been slowly unmasking as pedophiles for a couple years now, to the point one outright said if it was not nudity it was not getting deleted.
Otherwise it's the same assortment of terminally online ethnic nationalists and no lifers as end-of-life KC
No.167350
>>167349Was it the sharty?
>>167312Or this guy?
No.167356
>>167353Is that a known sharty strategy or not?
No.167357
>>167353Did you mean the registrar? Because the post above claims Cloudflare hasn't blocked Kohlchan.
In any case, this reinforces the importance of having multiple layers of defense: a blocklist with known CSAM hashes (ideally shared between admins who trust each other), a mod team that spans enough timezones to leave no gaps, and maybe a report feature that hides a post and fake-404s the image if it gets reported by more than one user with a high trust cookie within a specified time, until a mod either purges the post or dismisses the report to restore it.
If any board goes longer than 24 hours without a new post or a staff visit, maybe admins should be notified to see if the board could be reassigned, merged or deleted.
>>167355>It could be a decent replacement for a modern /int/ if not for those threads, but the even the admin himself considers it a hill worth dying on.As someone who never frequented any of the German chans, were
those threads 2D or 3D? Because if it's the latter, the admin was courting disaster.
No.167358
>>167357Forgot the fourth layer of defense: a board knowledge captcha most raiders won't know how to solve. What's a 2hu?
No.167359
>>167357>were those threads 2D or 3D? 3D. /b/ had even more blatant threads with users posting photo sets from "professional CP" studios last time I checked.
>Because if it's the latter, the admin was courting disasterKohlchan has dozens of banners featuring child models. The admin obviously knows about the risks.
No.167360
>>167359Pretty dumb to host that on the clearweb. It's almost impressive that lasted as long as it did.
No.167363
>>167358>What's a 2hu?A miserable pile of secrets
No.167368
>>1673573D. You could have child model threads in the open that only got deleted when anons starts counter-spamming and crying to the mods in meta.
>>167349> Kohlchan was surprised by the alleged CSAM reports,Lying through their teeth.
No.167369
>>167359>Kohlchan has dozens of banners featuring child models. The admin obviously knows about the risks.Shot out to that one anon in this thread that lashed out at me when i told him the original KC killed the site because it was was filled with pedos
No.167387
I wonder what happened to that KC loli translation group.
No.167438
saw it
we all saw it
No.167445
>>167438I didnt see it wha was itt T~T
No.167449
>>167357>Did you mean the registrar?Yes
No.167456
>>167455lg could mean little girls, which seems to be pedo slang. If you observe loli threads, only fags who tend to talk about 3DPD tend to use it at all.
Funny how this is in contrast to that one slandering faggot who said the kohl admin allowed anything.
No.167462
>>167456Did you miss the part mods allowed a pedophilia general for months and what prompted the attack was banning it?
Which if you followed KC you'd know it's because it's not the first brush with the law. You literally have the admin statements of being forced to comply with take down requests.
It's literally pedophile on pedophile violence.
>"if they treated /int/ the same way they treated /b/" Because the german side of KC is even more openly pedo than the int side.
>that one slandering faggot who said the kohl admin allowed anything.Keep feigning insanity over the CSAM in the banners.
I'm sure everyone will be convinced by your attempt whitewash Kohlchan.
No.167467
>>167465
What the fuck it's this derail?
"this modern site where mods actively allowed pedophiles to post csam and grow until they started making demands is tangentially similar to this completely unrelated board culture from 20 years ago therefore the modern site"
>where moot tried to allow anything that is legal
You don't even know kuso about old /b/. Don't try to cite the ancient magic at me faget, i was there (3 years late) when it was written.
moot never allowed pedophilia or "toeing the line with the law". Pedophiles were banned on sight, even people who made raid threads got canned and that wasn't illegal.
Even then, let's play devils advocate: Having *literal victims from material produced by confirmed human trafficking CSAM rings on the banners* was actually illegal under german law, but Helmut was simply too retarded to check.
Why do you insist on defending a website you didn't browse? Are you just trolling?
No.167471
>>167455>>167456Has anyone else noticed the increase of pedo dogwhistles across imageboards in general? Seems kinda exhausting to have to keep up with them.
No.167484
Idk what is good or bad in this thread. It looks mostly neutral, but I'm going to start moderating if there is something actually wrong or acting as indirect links to CP.
If there is something like that, then report it instead of trying to community mod
No.167486
>>167471I've started noticing them more and more in lolicon adjacent threads. It is very blatant well poisoning. And the worst part is that these malicious faggots are just allowed to continue until they start spamming csam and more actively trying to get the thread banned. This wouldn't happen if moderators actually moderated loli threads and curb stomped 3dpd niggers on sight.
No.167487
I am a kimo freak. I have a small penis
No.167488
dumb deletard
No.167489
Apparently "Sudo" will "take over" "Kissu" and that sounds like an imageboard happening, but I might be wrong (hopefully not)
No.167490
>>167489Don't worry, quads will come.
No.167492
>>167490>>167491Quads? Sudo? I'm talking about
OMEGA SUDO No.167493
Happening: The defeat of Sudo caused his soul to endlessly divide into alternative versions that will eternally haunt Kissu like the 4chan.js squares did to 4/b/.
No.167495
>>167486I really wonder if it's the same people because the pattern is similar every time.
No.167673
>>167671sudo rm rf no-preserve-root
No.167674
Safely rooting a phone is impossible. You're bound to destroy your phone
No.167725
Seems like wapchan's captcha is broken. Wasn't super interested in posting there as it was, but now it's totally worthless.
No.167726
>Uncaught TypeError: can't access property "open", document.getElementById(...) is null
No.167737
>>167725Works for me.
Also is it me or activity on a lot of imageboards has slowed down after christmas?
No.167748
>>167725It broke for a few hours in the morning and got fixed pretty quickly. Maybe have some patience
No.167886
>>166843>I've seen shartyfags on multiple obscure imageboards lately, even on non-eng speaking onesthey like to steal GETs during raids. their wiki (soyjakwiki.org) has a whole page just on GETs they consider notable.
No.167921
>>167886What's the point of doing that when GETs are pretty much useless outside of 4chan and they get deleted anyway?
No.167928
Editing the Hosts file no longer works as of today (01/01/2006). Now you can only access it through Tor or I2P.
>>167312>suggesting kohl is near death is not a surprise to me. People have been saying this was inevitable, mods have been slowly unmasking as pedophiles for a couple years now, to the point one outright said if it was not nudity it was not getting deleted.Newfriend, it has been this way since the beginning. It's the owner's (Helmut) policy.
>>167636There were workarounds, I won't explain them since it doesn't matter anymore. You can still access it through Tor if you really want.
http://kohlchanvwpfx6hthoti5f
vqsjxgcwm3tmddvpduph5f
qntv5affzfqd.onion/
>>167287Orgchan (krautchan.org) was created around a year ago by some old mods from Kohlchan, they have really strict moderation, you'll be banned for offending a mod, saying anything not Ukraine friendly, posting frogs, and any kind of discrimination that isn't against Russians. Might as well use Reddit at this point. The owner is either a 40 year old Ukrainian roastie refugee in Germany or a German government official.
No.167932
We should wordfilter "roastie" because nobody comes here for this lingo
No.167936
>>167928is this THE kohlchan on Kissu?
No.167942
>>167936yup it's the world's first sentient imageboard
No.167944
does anyone know how can i contact the developer of 4stats.io? i only found Nocory on github which used to host the repository for it but no direct contact info
more specifically, i'm curious about how he gathers all the posts
No.167946
>>167942Jesus Christ how horrifying
No.167947
>>167933More innocent times…
Sigh……
No.167949
>>167928> you'll be banned for offending a mod, saying anything not Ukraine friendly, posting frogsWow that's kind of awesome
No.167950
>>167944You can summon him on 4/bant/'s happenings thread. He posts under a kraut flag.
No.167952
moe down?
No.167953
>>167928>Newfriend, it has been this way since the beginning. It's the owner's (Helmut) policy.Good riddance, then.
No.167971
>>167952Think so, can't access it either.
No.168001
>>167950thank you, i will try that
No.168011
>>167952>>167971>>167977you mean 8moe? it's up at .st
No.168070
Kissu should sing "67 on a Merry Rizzmas".
No.168077
>>168068I hear a lot of women in this
No.168078
>>168070kissu sings "little girls" by oingo boingo
No.168081
>>168078Kissu should sing this unironically.
No.168083
>>168068speaking of 39chan someone on /leek/ had the balls to leak a cancelled KAFU voicebank
No.168085
>>168083checked /leek/, there was no voice bank, just a video using the KAFU's voice
No.168099
did 8chan just died?
No.168103
An 8chan just flewed over my house
No.168104
>>168102The new one
8chan moe
No.168105
>>168104yeah .moe domain is dead. use .st
No.168141
I just saw this
https://strawpoll.com/LVyK2MbYRZ0/resultsTotal Kissu cultural victory
No.168144
>>168141Well, the new retarded 14 day thread decision pretty much destroyed the "Take it Easy" aspect of 4/jp/.
If the goal was to kill necro ghostbumping, they could've implemented unbumping upon deleting but that's complex rocket science for the retard staff.
If the goal is to kill generalfaggotry, 14 days is still long enough for generals to stay while encouraging threadspam to push them off the catalog while also short enough to kill long-term quality threads. In that aspect, I'd say go full Futaba and have threads last only one day, generals would be completely eradicated.
Pretty kuso decision overall, it goes to show that the staff is completely out of touch and came on board when the tumor infestation happened. In fact, I'm pretty sure there hasn't been a /jp/ dedicated mod in years, they're largely shared with /vt/.
No.168145
>>168143I was surprised too, we might be becoming one of the bigger boards. Wapchan seems to be becoming quite larger over time too.
No.168147
>>168141It feels so fucking weird seeing your poll here after the migration.
>I'd say go full Futaba and have threads last only one day, generals would be completely eradicatedThe problem is that 4/jp/ isn't Futaba, like I said the best threads were those that lasted weeks and where Anons contributed when they wanted (like the smughu thread). Implementing a 1 day bumplimit would probably kill generals... along with the rest of the board.
At this point I don't think I even care.
I do kinda feel bad for the anons that didn't get the memo though ^^;
Also I decided (against my better judgement) to check how they're doing, and it's a complete kuso show over there.
No.168149
>>1681482026 will be the year of wapchan and hikari3
No.168150
>>168141>ShartyHow did this even end up in the vote?
No.168151
>>168150Someone's always got to pick the contrarian option.
No.168152
>>168150Sharty became mainstream, so that's likely why
No.168153
>>168150I'd joke like that, too, if I had lower inhibitions
No.168158
>>168155When I was a kid I atleast was able to read the wikis before doing dumb kuso to pretend I knew what I was doing
No.168161
Is it just me or is Kissu more active than usual?
No.168162
>>168161It's not just you
No.168164
>>168161It's just you. The only anons here are you and me.
No.168166
>>168161Heh, I made 4 posts within the span of 1 hour today
You could call me something of a spammer
No.168174
>>168168I'm-
C-C-COMBO BREAKER! No.168175
when you make more than 10 posts in a hour you get an achievement called "go outside"
No.168176
I made the draw thread so I can draw
No.168182
>>168161Lots of people got upset at the recent changes on 4/jp/ and decided to come here it seems
>>168141.
No.168183
>>168182I have been here for a year, technically I have known kissu when I first joined irc in 2017 but never really pushed myself to stay until last year
No.168190
What's the difference between Kohlchan and Krautchan.org?
No.168198
>>168077a lot of women like miku
No.168200
>>168183I've been here for two years
No.168203
>>168202Someone had the site listed on their website and I basically kept track of a bunch of /jp/ spinoffs just in case on my own private site later on. Glad it kind of ended up paying off since 4/jp/ died with a whimper
No.168218
>>168182So this is why the post quality has been awful recently...
No.168219
>>168218Sorry, those were all me.
No.168394
With great irony the new autosage function has destroyed
No.168449
>>168190kohlchan is the successor to krautchan. The krautchan that is now is not. Someone just took the domain. Moderation is very different and i would just call it a copy of ernstchan
No.168605
>>168603Please... Slow down...
No.168607
>>168603once we hit 88 pph kissu will explode
No.168608
hayai!
No.168609
>>168607Where can one see the posts per hour?
No.168611
>>1686104 posts in a day? You're a menace to Kissu
No.168612
>>168610I'm the kind of person that posts like 30 times in an hour and then disappears for 3 days.
No.168790
whats the deal with 8moe at the moment, place looks like its falling apart
No.168805
>>168790did it ever not fall apart?
No.168868
>>168790If there's something up with it, then talk about it... Can't expect me to go there and experience it.
The site was always trying to host it's stuff out of Ukraine and east Europe. I don't think it ever had the intention of being a serious site for normal people to use
No.168888
>>168868it's incredibly okay as a bunker for more niche stuff but they absolutely suck at running it. they're very slow at fixing the software (which lost them some users after the 4chan hack), it's on two domains that keep going down and your settings don't transfer between them unless you have userscript (which is still manual), etc.
board creation and multiple attachments are actual memes anyway (and 8moe evidently can't handle the latter)
No.168905
>>168888board creation is literally just a worse version of subreddits
No.168917
>>168905this criticism was leveled at cripplechan when it first came out and it's still true. most altchans have too many boards which leads to all of them being dead so how do you deal with this? by letting users create boards and fraction the user base over every little disagreement, of course.
No.168918
>>168917I think it's fucked up (in a good way) that kissu is one of the stronger altchans because it only has a limited amount of boards.
Actually how many users are there on the 'su like regularly now with all these 4/jp/fugees coming into the site?
No.168934
>>168918There are at least 2 more people: me and not me
No.168935
Yeah. I think there are around 2 users on kissu
No.168936
>>168935its all me and (You) :D
No.168937
kissu has 13 users
The Twelve and you.
No.168939
>>168937>>168938newfag here. someone explain this meme to me.
No.168940
>>168939Someone probably has IRC logs that go far enough back.
No.168943
>>168937I am qanonically #13
No.168944
>>168938I really really really like this picture
because i glow in the dark
No.168950
Kissu seems to be caught up in some kind Russian blocking of servers and Cloudflare. Collateral damage, not an actual targeted attack on it. I think a lot of countries with the same mindset as Russia will start doing similar things.
Trying to work out the best solution to it, but you can message me on Steam if you're involved as I troubleshoot problems people have.
If you think you're affected there's some tools which help.
Ironically using cloudflare actually is the best solution from a web admin perspective because it has the most tooling to bypass the issue.
I'm not really sure how anti-dpi software works so I can't be more helpful than that
No.168951
real meme hours
No.168952
>>168950>Russian blocking of servers and CloudflareAccording to the /bant/ happenings thread, the ruskie government blocked 4chan to a degree where posting isn't possible without a VPN. It could be possible that the retards at RKN banned cloudflare in general, affecting kissu as well.
>Is forklift officially blocked now? Because before, I had to navigate between threads using a VPN, but I could post without it—the captcha loaded and posts went smoothly. Then, I think last spring, the entire site loaded smoothly without a VPN. I even added forklift to the amnesia tunneling list. Now, threads are more or less open, albeit with horrendous lag, but I can't post anything, which is obviously much worse than the first version I had a year or two ago. No.168956
>>168954Classic soviet strategy. Can't hurt the economy if you don't have any.
No.168957
>>168956people not starve if people not be
No.168960
danbooru welcomed its 1 000 000th touhou picture a few hours ago
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/10609487 No.168962
>>168939A 5 way fight between /qa/ animeposters, /qa/ metaposters, 8chan pretending to be /mlp/, the pre-kissu gang and /pol/ who unironically believed /qa/ was a leftypol cabal astroturfing the mods to get them deleted
The gist of it is cool guy accidentally got /qa/ frozen because GR1 botting the reports queue was the spambot equivalent to nuking team4chan (nobody knew yet how fast the queue could get clogged after a GR1 report goes global, that's why they have hcaptcha now)
So everyone ended up in desu/qa/. At some point someone did a poll and the result was >12 posters. Then they got invited to sageru
>>168917That's misunderstanding how user flow in anonymous communities works. It always centralized
8chan, if brennan didn't fuck everything up, would have had 5-6 major boards holding 95% of the ppd while a hundred plus of niche and dead boards littered the outskirts with barely 5%.
No.168964
>>168960>1M pic>CirnoI can't prove it, but I'm convinced that KOG uploaded that image.
>>168963Do you live near Russia by any chance?
No.168965
>>168964no, unless USA is close to Russia
No.168977
I wish the other boards I use would also collectively decide to move to a non-4chan imageboard.
No.169016
>>168977Just become a janitor and pester the autistic anons and effortposters! Blow up guaranteed!
No.169051
>>169016how much do they pay?
No.169098
Seems like Uboachan is down right now, without any notice on whats up
No.169101
Okay, it's back up. I don't know about the sites history much, but looks like most of it's user base is on Discord and doesn't really care much about if it's dead.
No.169106
>>169101>most of it's user base is on Discord*bleguh*
Such is the fate of most themed imageboards
Even with relatively gigantic fanbases and compendiums you either get small imageboards (Vocaloid) or none at all (Touhou)
But they are almost always some of the most visually striking sites.
No.169120
>>167489Sandro? Is that you?
No.169146
>>169106>none at all (Touhou)Does tohno not count or something?
No.169147
>>168888i've never gotten into 8moe since its captcha is so annoying for so little
No.169148
>>169106Vocaloid imageboards seem to always have a small but stable community
No.169154
>>169152Unrelated but I love tohnos slang like calling ordinary people ford drivers, I wish kissu had more of them
No.169160
>>169154I drive a ford...
No.169369
>>168964>KoGThat guy is still around. Jesus.
No.169373
>>169101>>169106I should clarify that Uboachan and the Discord are basically two separate communities, and even Sei agrees.
The Discord is legitimately norm infested and I don't recommend using it.
No.169376
>>169373How did that happen? Didn't the site get a new janitor in 2025?
No.169388
What's with all the other spin-off boards that I visit having cheese pizza spammed on them? Does it just get cleaned up here before I see it?
No.169390
>>169388Wap-Hikari seem to have a captcha so we're able to not have any of that, no idea about how Kissu gets none of that.. probably divine protection, but I've seem other imageboards based on more obscure topics getting pizza in them.
No.169394
>>169388>>169390CP bots are too scared to deal with 4taba gangsters (Sturmabteilung of Kissu).
No.169397
>>169390Kissu does too, it usually just gets cleaned instantly.
No.169399
>>169390I've definitely seen it on here before.
No.169411
>>169390It's because some users are
autistic enough to be on kissu enough to report it instantly.
No.169413
>>169411One of the few reasons I've grown to love this site is because of how active it is
No.169434
>>169430Someone should make a patch
No.169450
>>169397This is the real difference, kissu has a larger amount of staff than wap/hikari so they can afford to not run a captcha and just deal with it as it comes.
No.169456
>>169450how do i join the staff for any of these sites..
i swear i never see anything on kissu despite being in the most inactive timezone
staff is the best
No.169460
>>169456You could always reach out to the admins directly by email or just look to see if they are asking for people
No.169469
>>169450It's not about the raw amount of staff. It's about the number of hours they can commit to being online and their time zone distribution.
I've caught CP spam on Kissu multiple times and reported it on the spot. It always gets deleted within 2-3 minutes. That's more than I can say about any other imageboard, including the big ones like 4chan that have 10x the ratio of mods per users (but they're never online and don't get fired if they stop caring).
No.169483
>>169469I think it's probably easier than it was 20 years ago considering everyone has a cellphone, too. Your software just needs to send reports as e-mails or chat messages or something.
No.169488
I wandered through many boards in the past decade or so, and while I feel I have been lucky with the places I frequent not degrading in quality at a pace of 4chan, I feel like all the places I could have called my home became worse over the last few years.
For some the decline was long and ongoing, for others the drop was sharp and more recent. I wonder if anyone else noticed similar thing in the places they frequent.
No.169564
>>169488I could say I felt a similar thing, most places on this side on internet seem to be declining because of a lack of incentive. Artists usually move and go according to where the crowd is.
Most likely it's just seasonal depression which moves on, or it's just bored kouhais.
I don't know if there are any really good recent imageboards other than Hikari, and it's harder to find them to be honest. Activity on a lot of alternative imageboards is increasing though because the hack cemented the end of 4chan's cultural relevancy in a way.
No.169569
>>169488Everythings been on a subtle decline since the early 2010s, with it getting rapidly steeper the last 7-10~ years
The general real life degredation has just been making it harder for some to enjoy the internet escapism/cope time which tends to lead to them being asshats, making it harder to enjoy for everyone else too
No.169571
>>169567I've begun to mostly only frequent Kissu since a year or two back. Started out with few posts but I use it so much now, I like how everyone here usually has their interests and every post gets a reply.
No.169572
>>16910639chan doesn't have a discord though, and this week the site's had about 900+ posts. Also speaking of, is it down for anyone else? I haven't been able to access it since early in the morning
No.169576
>>169572I never use that site, isn't it related to vocaloid? Doesn't seen to be loading for me either.
No.169578
world2ch is down right now, has been since maybe last night
also damn, 39chan is down
No.169593
>>169576Yeah its a vocaloid imageboard. Site is down for me too.
No.169595
>>169148There's another one? I know that in the 2010s there was Mikuchan (not to be confused with 39chan) but it shut down around 2014
No.169596
>>169578>>169572>>169576>>169578>>169593we are working on getting it back up
stay tuned!
No.169645
>>169488We are getting old..., and there aren't any many
good anons to replace us.
Lack of incentive, like one said.
No.169659
>>169572Fuck man, I'm really missing /rvr/. A lot of good songs came out during the downtime but I have nowhere to dump them without it being spammy now that the site's dead.
No.169660
>>169645I am too young but I don't have anyone good that's old to teach me :(
No.169663
>>169662Husband? We're all cute little girls here.
No.169679
39chan.moe is back up!
No.169696
>>169679w2ch is still down sadly
No.169698
I took a look at lainchan yesterday since I haven't been there since the 4shutdown, I forgot to check out the 2025 lainzine so I may read it. Also forgot about the linked chans they had there, may go do some more chan exploring soon.
No.169704
>>169596Thanks for creating a repo for your version of 4chan XT. I just saw it today and I'm going to start using it
hope you don't abandon it https://github.com/figamin/Altchan-xt No.169718
>>169373That sounds exactly like the problem 22chan used to have many years ago up until the day the staff got convinced to close it down and ban every single normalfag infesting the site.
No.169732
Non-discord forums should have decoy "official" discord servers that're really restrictive with post cooldowns and other bullshit
No.169743
>>169741I visited the anime board and of course someone is flooding it with cp, I hope the mods are awake
No.169758
>>169741This is great news.
No.169761
Not an imageboard, but the TLMC Opus player has been down for a while now, or the IP changed.
>>169741Who is behind this "revival" this time?
I'm waiting for Desuchan to come "back" any minute
No.169762
>>169741Is this under the same management? Are they going to aggregate dozens of super niche boards again (do they even exist anymore?) in spirit of the previous one? Otherwise I'm not sure what's the point because right now it's just another imageboard except on an ancient engine with the same topics as everywhere else
No.169763
It's using the shotgun approach of advertising across 4chan boards which would explain why certain unsavory spam was already there:
https://find.4chan.org/?q=iichan.org No.169766
>>169763haven't seen anything unsavory so far but i hope he doesn't get iichan put on the spamlist for this
No.169767
>>169106>Such is the fate of most themed imageboards>fateyou mean the cause of existence?
reminder: 4chan was created by a IRC chat
Every major IB had an official IRC channel where the old guard and admins idled
Having a cabal that coordinates the culture is basically mandatory for IBs.
No.169770
>>169373The discord is fine, it might not be your cup of tea because it's very friendly and casual but it's not bad
No.169771
>>169741Is the trend these days to pick up expired domains of old imageboards from 20 years ago and try to act like you're inhereting their history? I always found it more meaningful when boards are unique and new instead of "revivals"
No.169772
>>169771It's tremendously difficult to populate a new imageboard so I could imagine people want any boost they can get. It sounds cynical, but eh, as long as they don't pretend to be the original staff it's probably not too harmful. It's just a blank canvas until people give it value.
No.169776
to truly bring back iichan you need to form a little webring of a bunch of weird, incredibly specific niche boards
No.169778
Can't interact with images without JS enabled.
No.169782
w2chan fucking DIED
No.169795
>/>169741>>169761>>169763This site was made by maki, an autist who for years has constantly created imageboards only to shut them down weeks or months later after having a meltdown or running out of money. Every time he makes a site he uses bots to spam links everywhere while banning any and all discussion about himself on his imageboards, and more than once he has used his bots to attack other sites and drive users towards his current chan. He usually uses a variation of 64chan to name his imageboards, but he has "revived" defunct chans and stolen names of other sites in the past. His posts should be treated as spam and deleted from the site.
No.169817
>>169782It's been down for 4 days now right? What's the point when we start losing hope it will ever come back?
No.169823
>>169106>Such is the fate of most themed imageboardsI mean 39chan staff are very anti-Discord and Holotower afaik doesn't have one either
No.169833
>>169795Thanks anon, had no idea
No.169856
Not specifically a happening, but anyone surprised at how Tohnos web design is still smooth in modern day? Probably my favorite looking altchan
No.169857
>>169856I preferred the old software from a visual standpoint, though it's fairly nitpicky. They've done a good job translating it to vichan. I do miss the different recent post settings, but again, fairly minor gripe.
It is a very nice looking site though. Clean and simple, with a slightly nostalgic feeling. The variety of CSS themes is also nice. I'm quite fond of that site.
No.169858
>>169857Navigating it is so smooth, it really works well compared to a lot of other sites
It is very unstable though, lots of bugs I've found
No.169860
>>169856I just don't like how vichan looks, but glad Tohno still keeps the lights on.
No.169876
>>169817The owner updated the software not even two weeks before it went down; I assume it should come back eventually. It's not like there was any signs he got bored.
No.170032
>>169767I believe in doing it open and public, it's more community forward that way
No.170147
Moved 4chan complaint to the 4chan complaint thread.
No.170234
World2ch is up again!
There hasn't been any mention of why it was down.
No.170237
>>170234never used world2ch b4 whats it?
No.170238
>>170237This is a nice readup on it.
https://shii.bibanon.org/shii.org/knows/World2ch.htmlTl;dr
>It was launched by a 16-year-old Japanese fella named RIR7 on 3/3/2003 as an English version of 2ch. world2ch was really a world of its own. It is the only place I know of where Japanese otaku were constantly and substantively talking with Americans. These otaku came from 2ch, the Japanese mega-BBS. world2ch was an attempt at recreating 2ch in English, and among 2chers it was well-known, but it never really took off.I didn't know it still existed. How active is it these days?
No.170251
>>170238it's been replaced by pretend users who speak broken English on purpose and try to imitate the original culture for whatever purpose
No.170252
>>170238>>170251It is the severe internet there.
No.170259
>>170238>gogolmoisI ran into them on X (formerly Twitter) one time in a random political thread and it took me a moment to remember where I knew that name from.
They are uh, often at odds with sanity anyways.
No.170261
>>170259Another day of thanking God for not letting me have a Xitter account
No.170263
>>170261My Xitter algorithm is actually very pleasant. I must have trained it well because it's 90% cute 2hus, and 10% cute girls from other media. I never see political stuff unless I click on some gaijin's profile by mistake and he happens to be one of those guys who posts cute girls but also posts politics.
No.170268
>>170261Twitter is an interesting thing because while most people openly disparage it for its cancerous effects on the internet or humanity in general, or being specifically damaging to anonymous imageboards, it's guaranteed you will get someone to defend it no matter where you are on the internet when you insult it. I don't quite understand the contradictory stance, but it's extremely common.
No.170269
>>170268Active X users and Imageboards attract a similar userbase in terms of psychology I'd suppose
Just that a lot of active X users are in it for the money with Elon and before it used to be for the love of the game and causing havoc, similar to how imageboards are I'd suppose
No.170297
Does anyone feel like Kissu's activity shot up 150x since the 4chan captcha
No.170298
>>170297Nothing compared to the shutdown hack traffic last April.
No.170299
>>170298I can't believe it's almost been a year since then. I remember making a visual novels 3 days after the hack using my own music and art. Time passes by so quickly..
No.170301
>>170263Mine is huge titty porn and my favorite jp artists sharing their other hobbies like gunpla, anime, figurines, bjd, vocaloid, gacha stuff, some vtubers, and political views. I guess my feed is not unlike 4/jp/, but I guess with names and pictures I can determine whats good and not to filter through my feed
No.170302
>>170297The new autosage setting on /jp/ probably had more to do with it than the captcha
No.170303
>>170302Did most of the /jp/ people that came here after that end up going back? The activity spiked like crazy for a few days, but it seems to have reduced now (and touhou character threads aren't being bumped nearly as much anymore).