If I'm to be honest I was pretty much in the same boat myself until 2018 when I joined the Rizon IRC and then later the steam chat in a bid to turn around and fix my hikkikomori ways. I wasn't able to talk or really interact with anyone outside of Anonymous conversation and would always judge myself based on my post quality/engagement in comparison to everyone else. I accepted that I didn't really want to continue living that same lifestyle where I'm too afraid to make any moves and the ones I do make are timid and lead me nowhere, so I threw myself straight into the fray and let whatever could happen, happen. At worst I'd just retreat into my shell again and continue the way I'd always been.

Instead, through that leap of faith I met and got to know people and actually make some friends that I still hold to this day. Some of them I was able to come together and make kissu with, Vern and Cool. Through that first initial leap, subsequent leaps have become a lot easier to take and have netted me a nice little gaggle of people that I'm acquainted and/or friends with. Even among the Touhou posters though I wasn't so sure how much I'd have in common with them at first, after getting to know them through joining those sven sessions and other social gathering events I've gotten to know and find interests I share in common with them as well.

The most important part of all of this, to me, is being open to and willing to take interest in others instead of focusing on ways to make yourself interesting enough to approach. But we're on a board only we'll see so I can tell you that you're certainly at that level yourself, just possibly too high of a level sometimes for most people to be able to engage with. Like my other friend who made https://kissu.moe/aut/thread/3835, but that's somewhat normal for an imageboard where people have varying tastes and niches. One thing that seems to be common is that the bar for what people should reply to such threads is so high that some people feel it hard to contribute meaningfully, but as Vern expressed about his Uma Musume blog:
￥why do you think I require you to play the game. Smougda doesn't even know anything about it
￥rather, I don't even expect you yourself to care
￥It's a problem with anyone caring at all about the anime, the game, horse racing
I think it's a valid critique that even the most minimal engagement is better than nothing, and I think that's something more people should probably strive for, but then again it goes back to the mindset that people need to take interest in others before expecting others to take interest in themselves. So be it as it is I'll let my threads die off and fail as many times as they may but I'll always try to engage with others in the hopes that increasing the prominence of people who take interest in various topics eventually leads to more people coming willing to engage in topics and then maybe we'll have a community eventually where people can talk about anything and there'll always be a few people who can talk about certain niches in-depth. And if they don't really exist then they can learn about it through your own insights and research. That's at least the ideal imageboard I want to make on kissu.

Remember the thread discussing "hooks" some years ago? It's something I always keep in mind, the question what angles are there for people to respond from? That's why I typically prefer posting an opener like >>>/spg/3767 over the full walls of the astronomy thread, because you have to reel people in. The problem with walls of text about tech is that 1) they're walls, 2) they're about tech: a double tism filter, and it's the latter that gets me. I believe one of the reasons why you perform better on #qa is simply that it's far more digestible, and that there is less commitment to making a "full" reply rather than a simple comment in response.
It's not something that should make you withdraw into yourself, but self-reflect and reconsider your approach to interacting with people. I enjoy funposting along the 2hufriends, even if 2hu isn't an interest of mine either. You should try it too, it's fun.
>>53
>_master1200
Pitiful thing...

>>53
>Even among the Touhou posters though I wasn't so sure how much I'd have in common with them at first, after getting to know them through joining those sven sessions and other social gathering events I've gotten to know and find interests I share in common with them as well.
I cannot say that I enjoy this colonization.

Geez, what an obscure thread that I only saw because of the 'recent posts' thing I check for moderation purposes.

>>56
Most of them seem quite sincere, and if you were to hide the 2hu threads (since I think that's you in OP) you wouldn't really notice much of a change. The worst thing I've seen so far (that hasn't been deleted) has been in the 4/jp/ meta thread on /jp/, but it's a 4/jp/ meta thread so it's kind of expected that it would turn into something ugly when something major happened on 4/jp/. For what it's worth, the thread went back on track after posters convinced the guy to change his way of thinking/posting.
For all the activity we've received from 4chan-centered people there has been very little cultural clashing. I think the more aggressive people will return to 4chan as they can't get the hit of the drug here. I'd say it's your time to try and strike a conversation about computers or whatever it is you like because there's no indication that these people have 2hu as their sole interest.

>>56
You call it colonization, I call it expansion. The big issue with kissu is not enough engagement for posts, not what the catalogue looks like.

>>59
Good luck with that. Monkey's paw and all. I don't really see much resemblance to Kissu of the past anymore.

>>60
I don't see much of a resemblance of Kissu of the past to 4/qa/ of the past either, or 4/a/ and 4/jp/ before it. And yet I still look back on all of these fondly. Change is something that comes from acquiring new blood and if Kissu can evolve to benefit from this then we will be better off for it.

But of course, if all you wish to do is complain and lament about the state of things do as you wish. I have no inclinations of helping or aiding someone even in a gently whispering of kindness sort of way who remains constantly negative and just wants to air grievances at all times. I tried to connect with you and actually be sympathetic and all that I get in response is more complaints and a complete ignoring of everything else posted. You're no better than Vermin who you're so eager to chide, but actually at least I can talk with Vermin even when we're talking past each other.

>>60
Vagueposting...
Isn't of your complaints is that people don't reply to your tech stuff? Do you think 2hu posters spend 8 hours a day sleeping and then do nothing else but look at 2hu when awake? People have varied interests, especially if they're in the imageboard demographic. You have to give them a chance. It will also take time for these new people to feel comfortable and venture out from their comfort zone of 2hu stuff. I know the anime streams have picked up some people.
We basically picked up new people from the one demographic on 4chan that isn't corrosive.

>>56
>colonization
I think this view of it is very flawed. People joining doesn't mean you're not permitted to have your posts and the site is slow enough that you can still have them. If it's too fast, that's why I had the brilliant foresight to split up a few of the topics into jp qa and win(and you all hated me for it).

No one here cares about my horse race gambling game, but I can still put it in here and there, plus I have a clan that's active and I'm running so I don't really need it to be here and use Kissu for certain specific things.
I think you are just leaning into the belief that no one responding to your posts is a problem of society and not a problem of yourself. And you probably know this which is why you're being combative to any reasonable suggestions otherwise

You'll have to pardon me for being unethical for a second, but this is important to understanding how we're even framing your issue if legitimate...
What do you even want from this thread?
>>>/maho/5583
Presumably the responses here weren't good enough for you, so what more did you want?

>>53
>If I'm to be honest I was pretty much in the same boat myself until 2018 when I joined the Rizon IRC and then later the steam chat in a bid to turn around and fix my hikkikomori ways [...] friends that I still hold to this day. Some of them I was able to come together and make kissu with, Vern and Cool.
I can see how you did it, but how did a perpetual bleher+sigher like Cool-Guy become friends with you and Vermin?

He wasn't always a sigher and he wasn't always a bleher, but over time the sighs have caught up making him bleh

>>63
Yes, Koupen-chan. A vain attempt in saying nothing in the hopes that nothing could be extracted from it.

>>62
>if all you wish to do is complain and lament about the state of things
That IS exactly what I intended. I made this thread on a board away from prying eyes hoping that no one would read my posts and I find myself surrounded by the advice and opinions of others when that was exactly what I sought to avoid. Alas, vichan has terrible memory and I could not delete the thread, saving everyone's time from further misunderstanding... At any rate, if I'm disallowed a noncommital (Some might even say "carefree") thread to post my musings and melancholic thoughts that deserve no response, where else would you suggest I post them?

To save further misunderstanding...
>no one responding to your posts
I'm really not concerned about that. I most lurk now, neither having anything to really say (that rises beyond blog-like thoughts), nor finding any threads that particularly interest me.

>Presumably the responses here weren't good enough for you
I don't have any particular feelings about that thread at all. My most recent post was simply a result of dissatisfaction with both /jp/ being so thoroughly overrun with touhou and the subsequent lack of seasonal threads (and thus the failure of /amv/ to be anything but /v/, to fill this seasonal thread void post-hack -- and I don't mean the overly long seasonal threads (call them whatever you like) that were on /qa/). I have nothing against touhou, or it's posters (I mistook the thumbnail from >>56 for another image). I just think it's category error for them to be on Kissu's /jp/, displacing everything that was, since their threads more often border on glorified /c/ threads.

>>66
waiting to follow up on >>/maho/5894 because I am waiting on CPU and RAM from China and also 1U cooler and thermal paste. I'm not going to make a post saying I'm waiting to make a post.

>>69
>I could not delete the thread
deleting sager.

>>62
>but actually at least I can talk with Vermin even when we're talking past each other.
Talk like this is overstimulating and I would rather not say anything when it's like this. You can message me, I just don't check my messages very often because I rarely use my desktop that much lately. It's nothing personal......

>>72
But really, I think this thread should be deleted. I don't want it to be the face of this board. It doesn't deserve it.

>>67
Enough time has probably passed that the others would be fine talking about it, but idk and I'm not exactly going to say without their consent. We had a lot more fire in us back in the day and dealing with 4/qa/ was able to bond us in terms of having a unified and coordinated goal. The few of us also sorta diverged in opinion of where we wanted to take things as the years have gone by on Kissu. Cool's always wanted to preserve things as his initial ideal of Kissu, Vern wanted... I'm still not sure what he wants because I still find his ideas have been antithetical to whatever purpose he seems to give off aiming for at times but he's been mostly right about splitting up boards and major long term decisions just in the short term I've had some major disagreements with him and especially relating to someone else from back in the day that he had a big fight with and will get mad if I bring his name up though I'm still in contact with him and don't really care about past grudges and whatnot, and I've always wanted to try and recapture the feeling or spirit of 4/qa/ in making Kissu a bit more chaotic and a bit less predictable by introducing more people and more eyes to it that can fit in with the broad idea of 2D/Random but may have some quirks here and there.

Since the beginning if you'd read my posts I've vyed for this and as stuff's happened throughout the years and Kissu got slower I began to sorta get more forward and a bit steamed over a lack of progress and at times backwards progress I felt through actions that did nothing to help anyone and fractured the userbase. I don't really think we'd see nearly as much resentment over integration if people here who complain actually still posted as actively as they used to but because of past actions by others or life situations they've become a bit less frequent in their postings. That's why I'm much more trying to keep Kissu more active and with a steadier flow of new posters, younger/older that still have that flame burning in them to post.

There's a bit of an issue in terms of language, but the way people talk about trans stuff or whatnot has become pretty much ubiquitous on 4chan and I can't really say that it's a mindset necessarily contradictory to what people feel about it here but rather than say the quiet part out loud we choose to keep silent instead. And I mean in terms of generational things, 'tra_nny' is more in line with how people used 'faggot' as a general insult for 'people I don't like' but with the caveat that people do actively hate on people who are trans too and without much distinction between the really annoying ones and people just keeping to themselves. Also posting all the gross wojak-adjacent images that I hate looking at about as much as Cool probably does but I deal with those near instantly if he/vern doesn't so there's not much of an issue there with us over what to do with them.. Not like we'd attract a normalfag audience using language like the times haven't changed from late 2000s early 2010s either just like we wouldn't by posting "icky" anime where teenagers are seen as attractive.

In some part I'm still driven and have a fire to make Kissu as successful as I can because I'm still fighting to carve out a space on the web for more casual and laid back talk/group events of a 2D/Random nature that's not on some discord somewhere where everyone needs to know each other, and instead where the barrier to entry is just finding the site and being able to post like a human. To that extent I'll befriend anyone who seems like they share that same goal of finding a nice place on the internet to try and make Kissu better. And when it comes to growing the site you can't really grow something without new blood unless the old people are willing to be as active and prolific as the younger generations tend to be.

The biggest area of contention between me and Cool right now I think is that while he believes more in having a harmonious site where everyone is sorta positive and whatnot I think that I've always gotten a bit more out of having a bit of a passionate argument here and there (he has too but he's just too tired for that now), and a fight here/there doesn't bother me as long as it doesn't devolve into a shitflinging contest or blatant contrarianism for the sake of shitting the place up. I value actual human feelings and thoughts more than phony fighting for the sake of fighting. I have nothing to really conclude this long wall of text, I've just mostly exhausted things I thought up on the spot.

>>76
im not reformatting this either

My main point is somewhat that you don't really need to have 100% the same interests as the other people, and even if they're different just try to be friendly and see if you can get along. Rather than people having such negative preconceived/reactionary notions of everyone else. They're not bad people at all and maybe more people should see if they'd actually enjoy the Touhou manga and extended lore stuff aside from just the games because it's genuinely good worldbuilding and SoL that people seem to clamor for yet refuse to read anything that gives it to them when they can watch anime instead.

Also I'd ban Andy 1000000x before I banned any of the /jp/ posters.

>>77
fine i formatted it

OP, you requested your thread to be deleted. But are you aware more people will see it on /trans/ than here? I could put it on autosage or something.

I don't think there's any way of seeing it on old UI, but this thread is now on autosage to best serve OP's request to be forgotten. You presumably wouldn't want it on /trans/ where more people would see it.

>>81
I don't want that... Then the people that browse /trans/ will find /test22/. Can't you just delete without moving to /trans/ or something. ugh.

>>69
>I don't have any particular feelings about that thread at all. My most recent post was simply a result of dissatisfaction with both /jp/ being so thoroughly overrun with touhou and the subsequent lack of seasonal threads (and thus the failure of /amv/ to be anything but /v/, to fill this seasonal thread void post-hack -- and I don't mean the overly long seasonal threads (call them whatever you like) that were on /qa/). I have nothing against touhou, or it's posters (I mistook the thumbnail from >>56 for another image). I just think it's category error for them to be on Kissu's /jp/, displacing everything that was, since their threads more often border on glorified /c/ threads.
nigger are you even posting on /amv/ to justify saying this (rhetorical question I know you're not)? because I am and it's way more active than last season ever was

the equivalent of coming in and saying "dead cope channel" but just in more words

>>83
Yeah. We can, but i think they don't remember how to do it

>>54
Coming back to this to say I followed my own advice in posting >>>/win/3354 and OP should adopt a similar tactic instead of moping around.

>>67
I'm a bleher, sure, but I don't know about sigher. I guess I've been in sigh positions in the past year more than usual, but am currently feeling better. I don't really type "sigh", at least not in a serious manner. It's more like "sigh, no mewkledreamy season 3". Anyway, the answer to your question is "shared interest". It goes back to the formation of kissu and the reasons it was made to begin with. Well, I guess he said so here >>76
I wouldn't quite say the fire is out of me, but when my fire burns others aren't able to. I'm trying to channel it towards game dev stuff eventually...

>>75
I hope you know that you have people that care about you here, and that's why this thread gets a lot of replies instead of ignored.

>>77
cute plump foot even though the toes are a bit long

>>52
>I've realized there's a deep contradictory tension that lies within me. I often want to share things I find and think about with others and then feel lonely if no one responds, but more often than not that loneliness makes me want to be alone out of embarrassment for having tried. I think that feeling of wanting to be alone is exacerbated by being outnumbered by those with other interests -- like the touhou posters. I simply have no commonality of interest with them, which causes me to withdraw further into myself. It's the sort of feeling like when replying in a chatroom with names and then conversation continuing on as if you had said nothing...
>>69
>That IS exactly what I intended. I made this thread on a board away from prying eyes hoping that no one would read my posts and I find myself surrounded by the advice and opinions of others when that was exactly what I sought to avoid.
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>>75
>But really, I think this thread should be deleted. I don't want it to be the face of this board. It doesn't deserve it.
>>81
>OP, you requested your thread to be deleted.
>>83
>I don't want that... Then the people that browse /trans/ will find /test22/. Can't you just delete without moving to /trans/ or something. ugh.
Here's some more attention that you so obviously want.

>>76
Thank you for the xplanation

Just to let you guys know and because I can relate to OP's wish to have certain posts disappear without a trace, the most recent thread on /trans/ with what appears to be Berun's transcription of the Kid Buu transformation features one post specifically mentioning this board, which got at least me to check here again out of curiosity and find this thread. If possible, I think it would be best to delete or edit that post.

>>94
Ah, yeah I guess it would. Well, it's not exactly meant to be a hidden board. Just an old UI testing bed or something.

cute thread