No.179040
>>178975It should have been a permanent rangeban just for the cancerous way you talk.
No.179042
>>178981¥Caring about 3dpd to begin withHe's a lost cause.
No.179234
>>179232The problem, in my opinion, was that plenty of users didn't know about the migration / didn't want to migrate.
And so the threads typical for 4/jp/ didn't really take on, so some people got bored.
Though I'd say that there are more people now who use both kissu and 4/jp/.
No.179236
>>179235I wish people actually stayed in one place and kept it alive instead of splitting into numerous ones for no reason. I hate people.
No.179238
>>179237
Delusional, really. People are split into too many places whether 4 is there or not.
I'd rather people just dealt with the couple kuso things about 4 instead of what we have now where every place is a crawl.
No.179240
>>179239
I don't know if you realize but 4 is just as dead as this or some other chans at the moment. It might actually even be slower than here.
A surge of activity when it actually goes down is because it's a happening.
Either way, it's this migration mentality that killed every place in the end. I'll have fun refreshing ten different chans just to hopefully see one post because everyone thinks their own shithole is the best one. Yippie.
No.179242
>>179241
>are you kidding me
>feel free to go to
Yeah, it seems like you're having trouble believing 4jp is deader than here.
No.179243
>>179242>4jp is deader than hereKissu still sometimes goes over an hour without any posts (sometimes hours), 4/jp/ isnt THAT dead
No.179244
>>179243If you take away the 3DPD threads and the generals that anyone with half a brain immediately filters, it's either the same speed or slower.
Sorry but it's what it is.
No.179246
>>179245
The topic was /jp/. Of course nobody believes that the whole site is that slow.
>stats
Again, those are 99% 3DPD generals and vtumors. You have no idea what you're talking about.
No.179248
>>179247
They literally are. You can stop speaking now.
No.179251
4/jp/ meta talk has been moved into this thread from the blog thread.
No.179252
"Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse "
The fuck happened?
What kind of abuse are they talking about?
I'm not giving them my email.
No.179253
>>179252Self-abuse (you tried to post on 4chan)
No.179254
>>179249
¥rapeape-sama please let me shitpost as a janny, I will even do it for free!
No.179257
>>179252It's probably a false positive because their anti-bot heuristics are set too aggressively. The last time that happened, you could unblock yourself by loosening certain privacy protections in your browser. I think you had to allow canvas fingerprinting, disable first party isolation and use a non-private window.
Just tried that with a new browser profile last night, but it no longer works for me. Strangely, I can still report posts. A real rangeban blocks reporting too, IIRC.
Did you have an aged cookie before you got blocked? (That is: were you getting the 1-round captcha with 3 easy pics and one "Verification not required" after every post?) I think those used to bypass fake rangebans, but I can't confirm because my only 4chan cookie was on a laptop that died.
No.179258
>>179252>>179257If it's still true or not I don't know, but they were/are still throwing that message at people entirely at random for new cookies. I have tripped it a few times but I post rarely and always in incognito mode so my cookies never save
No.179260
>>179257>Did you have an aged cookie before you got blocked? (That is: were you getting the 1-round captcha with 3 easy pics and one "Verification not required" after every post?) I think those used to bypass fake rangebans, but I can't confirm because my only 4chan cookie was on a laptop that died.Did they fuck with the captcha again? I was away for bit over a week, before it was just one image, now it's 3?
Anyway cookie did reset while I was away(at least I think) so I had to do the harder ones for the first couple of times, though after that I only got those that you've mentioned.
Maybe I posted too much?
No.179645
what happens if someone pays but doesn't bend the knee to ofcom's demands? do the penalties start again from the beginning?
No.179646
>>179645Actually what happens if they don't even pay the fine? Can they even do anything legally if it's hosted somewhere else outside of the UK?
No.179647
have you got a loicense for that imageboard m8
No.179648
>>179646no. 4chan even needing a lawyer for this is ridiculous.
No.179651
Whole affair is just excuse for british goverment to brand the site as criminal and to block the site nation wide. They never expected to get payment.
No.179735
The state of 4chan actually makes me sad. It's like a reanimated corpse. Even in 2015 it wasn't this fucking bad.
No.179736
>>1797352015 was 19 years ago...
No.179737
It's funny they haven't made new wordfilters yet.
No.179738
>>179737That implies the mods actually give a kuso to moderate the site
No.179742
>>179736Anon... It was 50.
No.179743
>>17974250 was way more than 19 years ago.
No.179744
That "Martin Random" guy from Something Awful who claimed to have been /b/'s creator seems to have privated all of his videos. Only a few shorts remain:
https://www.youtube.com/@falconryfinance/featured He also deleted his xitter account (pic related).
My guess is that he got threatened with legal action by either moot himself or a current 4chan staff member.
Did anyone here happen to save the "True history of 4chan" one where he mentions that moot met with Epstein before it was revealed to the public?
No.179746
>>179744I never followed closely but from what I can tell he oicked fights fast and loose with at least a few people so it’s not surprising.
I just casually mentioned his X handle once on a lighthearted topic and some random schizo spammed me (and him?) with several chain replies of kuso I didn’t understand, assuming I knew him personally or something.
No.179768
>>179744I've followed 4chan history for quite some time and I don't ever remember hearing about this guy. /b/ was just Anime/Random in the beginning.
>Did anyone here happen to save the "True history of 4chan" one where he mentions that moot met with Epstein before it was revealed to the public?Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knows.
No.179773
>>179768>Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knows.He did, but that guy seems like a schizo so he was probably just making it up.
No.179790
>>179746Yeah, I remember people posting him arguing with what looked like A-san on xitter, and A-san said he did know him and met with him before, which would add legitimacy to his claims.
>>179768>Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knowshttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA02179976.pdfhttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00922817.pdfhttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01848168.pdfHe even came forward to deny Epstein had anything to do with the creation of /pol/:
https://www.theverge.com/tech/879132/moot-4chan-jeffrey-epstein-meeting-pol>I met with him one time for an unmemorable lunch meeting>I did not meet him again nor maintain contactThat's one thing he's lying about, because the e-mails imply they met at least two or three times.
>>179773'Coincidences' of this magnitude don't happen randomly.
No.179802
>>179790does this guy just hunt down and meet with literally everyone? author(s) of SICP met with him as well i think
No.179803
>>179802big E was in the buisness of building connections
No.179804
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>>179790Those files are questionable. Not that the DoJ gives a fuck since they're complicit.
>>179802Yes, he was in the blackmailing and (human) networking business, though its wrong to call it business since he was really subsidized by one... government.
No.179806
>>179804I will also say that its very weird that of all things this is what brought Moot out into the world again when he was radio silent for years and years.
Maybe its not that weird, really. Lots of huge pieces of kuso that willingly associated with Epstein eventually did 180s in public as PR-esque damage control.
>I didn't actually like Epstein or anything. Yes, yes it was a mistake and I didn't know what I was getting into :^)Like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, etc.
No.179807
Epstein involved in letitimate and shady business. He was ultimately just a guy who built connections with everyone with some degree of influence in order to be the guy with a foot in the door with everyone.
Leaving the worst assumption off the table, would someone assume that the owner of 4chan has such a high moral compass that they would refuse to meet with the sketchy billionaire... Presuming they even knew who he was
No.179808
>>179807He wasn't just some guy.
And what's weird about Moot meeting him is that he isn't some famous CEO, politician, scientist, or anything like that, just someone who built a clone of a Japanese imageboard when he was a 15 year old shitposter. In addition, he doesn't look as though he has been truthful about meeting Epstein
>>179790 and of all things decided to come out of the shadows to tell everyone that he definitely regretted meeting him.
No.179810
I'm a bit conspiracy (read:schizo) minded so I know that if super elites are meeting up with you, that person was already in those circles. Either military intelligence, high ranking bankers, royal family, etc. These kind of guys absolutely do not rub shoulders with peasants.
With the large amount of cultural influence (aka manipulation) that 4chan has on people and the internet in general, it makes me wonder if m00t and his family really aren't who they say they are. That extends to 4chan too. It's a scary thought. /blog
No.179812
>>179808Epstein had no power aside from information. He just met with people.
You're making it seem like meeting with him was like meeting with the chief of the illuminati.
No.179813
>>179812Information is power. Knowledge is power for a reason.
No.179819
>>179744>claimed to have been /b/'s creator What? wouldn't /b/'s creator obviously just be moot?
No.179820
>>179808>And what's weird about Moot meeting him is that he isn't some famous CEO, politician, scientist, or anything like that, just someone who built a clone of a Japanese imageboard when he was a 15 year old shitposter.Moot may not have been a teenage tech savant, but his site
was influential at the time, and that was enough.
No.179821
>>179802Not surprising since he was connected with big tech people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk.
>>179808In Epstein's own words: "the potential for manipulation is huge" (pic related), meaning he was clearly looking at moot and 4chan from a social engineering point of view. I'm only going to post pics from now on instead of directly linking to the files since someone pointed it might not be so safe to access them directly (even if it's from an official source). Gotta remember that 4chan got hacked through a pdf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHL5XLYTADgAlso, when someone asked "Martin Random" about "what was 4chan even for", he replied with "large scale psychological operations", which is how Epstein saw it as well.
>>179813You're most likely talking to a gaslighter trying to run a damage control narrative for the 4chan staff. All of those crooks should be investigated by Interpol along with moot. It has been clear for a long time that 4chan stopped being a hobbyist site long ago. All hobby boards are dead/dying.
No.179823
Something Awful and 4chan could've just been one big data harvester/psyop. I wasted so many years on there... it scares me that this is probably true
No.179825
I fucking hate precures
No.179827
>>179821Oof, that's so interesting yet not surprising at all. Thankfully I've always only lurked, and haven't been to that place for years! (ok, maybe only for porn sometimes...)
No.179829
>>179825Uhh only the glowing ones of course
No.179830
Is it conspiratard hours or something
/pol/ was made because /new(s)/ got canned. Yes I definitely believe epstein psyopped you with 4chan to hate all the things he supports
Just people with an axe to grind developing post-hoc explanations for things they want to fit into a nice convenient narrative (Epstein created 4chan....and then they sell you whatever bridge is arrived at from that conclusion)
No.179831
>>179830Not saying eppy created it all by himself. Not even saying he cared. But there's definitely some very powerful people who were strangely interested in a site like 4chan. Epstein's drinking buddies maybe.
No.179834
>>179831There's been federal interest in western imageboards (re:4chan and 4x2chan) since terrorists decided they were good dumping grounds for manifestos and calls to violence. There's the whole popular image of some politician (was it Hillary?) reading a physical print out of 4chan posts, and of course the prior documented evidence of an actual FBI agent posting on 8chan and failing horribly at their job (+ all the janitors who had .gov emails or whatever). I don't think there's much strange about it.
No.179837
>>179830Hey, you good with that strawman, dude? Are you moot's boyfriend or something?
>Yes I definitely believe epstein psyopped you with 4chan to hate all the things he supportsHe was deeply involved with 'alt-right' people like Steve Bannon. And a Norm supporting neo-nazi bullshit is actually not that uncommon. "Weev" which "Martin Random" also mentioned is a Normish neo-nazi that he claims to have played a part in convincing moot to house neo-nazi bullshit on his site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev No.179847
>>179831a lot of powerful people were looking at 4chan. i suspect this is part of the reason moot suddenly dropped it.
>>179837weev 100% glows. he was talking about palantir tier tech all the way back into the early 2010s.
No.179857
>>179837weev was /i/ related and nobody knew or gave a kuso about his white supremacy at the time, because a man as ridiculous as him was not taken seriously on a political level, and 4chan hated politics thorough the 00s, when weev was anywhere close to relevance. Anyone who speaks of weev in the 10s is just lost.
Martin is a schizo circlejerker and half of team knew this, you can literally read them on old.sage.moe calling MR a weirdo in the open if you look him up. He was only a mod because he was 24/7 working /b/ and he was part of moot's IRL clique. While i think he is right that moot was an angry little twerp, the rest is literal slander because moot ghosted him during an emergency and he never forgave him. moot like weev because he was an /i/ troll as, again, nobody gave a kuso about his neo side. Politics were anti-lulz
moot hanged out with epstein because the TIME 2009 prank threw up to stardom and he could no longer hide while attending university. He was some NY middle class urbanite, who was also a shut in who spent 99% of his free time watching anime, suddenly exchanging sweat with the cream of silicon valley and NYC editorial. He was not gonna say no to the richest guy he'll even speak to.
And you can see his actual political leaning with the people he worked with: moot worked at the ultra-liberal buzzfeed, who were some of the FIRST pushers progressive clickbait. He worked there because he was sucking off Ben Lerer, who went onto angel-finance canv.as together with a bunch of other globohomo lads, the further right of which was anderseen and he only became a trumpist years after canvas died. The right-most person in moot's circle is maybe swaglord, otherwise his "childhood friend" was literally Mallory Blair who worked at fucking Gawker. That's two separate left-leaning globohomo outlet he was peripheral to.
>Are you moot's boyfriend or something? I WISH
No.179858
it's weird that Epstein supposedly created and engineered a board that would be obsessed with bringing the crimes and conspiracies of him and his cooperators to light. if the political board never existed, there probably wouldn't be half as much interest in uncovering the truth behind his island and his friends. total backfire
No.179859
>>179857Ok, but you sound like an actual 4chan staff member (kinda blew your cover there, didn't you), and therefore I have no reason to believe you're being impartial about this.
And yeah, moot himself was 'liberal/progressive' and hanged out with liberals/progressives, but money still talks. He obviously didn't like having to host /pol/ on the site. So much that he had a mental breakdown over it and nuked the board, causing a massive exodus to 8chan at the time. So it's almost as if it were an external force with a lot power and money forcing him to do it. Hmm.
No.179860
>>179859I just did my homework. You are not the first to asks these questions. old.sage.moe is a god send.
And if you want an actual ex-4mod posting, you have
>>179559> but money still talks. you underestimate how much of an autistic shut in moot is.
moot explicitly said he added /pol/ because he felt guilty over screwing his own communities over and a fight with Sherrod DeGrippo, the original founder of ED who killed the ED community because they were unmonetizable, made him decide to bring it back.
https://4chan.org/4channews?all#106>In January 2011, I fucked up. Frustrated with /r9k/ and /new/, I removed them from the site. It took this exchange (continued here) months later with the founder of Encyclopedia Dramatica for me to realize how wrong I was. Shortly after, I re-added them and apologized to the community.https://archive.org/details/roflconsummit-iu?start=2412His autism is also why the site never had pop-up ads or redirects until Hiro happened.
>So much that he had a mental breakdown over it and nuked the board, causing a massive exodus to 8chan at the timeInfinity didn't exist in 2011. Neither did their mom & dad Wizardchan and Vichan net.
savetheintenet made 4chon as a /r9k/ + /pol/ bunker and that site died a year later, predictably, after moot brought back both boards. The exodus you speak of happens in 2014 during the peak of the culture war.
Real answer should be that /pol/ was brought back a day BEFORE moot meet epstein. He was shitposting with fags in Oct 23 7:00 AM then meet Epstein the same afternoon. Boris was asking Epstein about moot in Oct 24th 15:00. They either met up on 23th's afternoon, or morning in the 24th.
Proof courtesy of Rumia's research:
https://archive.tinychan.net/read/prog/1319370209Not only you have precedent of moot being crippled by his own ethics and a reason with DeGrippo's exchange that explains why moot did it, the dates don't actually add up.
If money talked, moot wouldn't have had to suck left-leaning Lerer's dick for a measly million in start up funding.
No.179862
the entire moot-epstein connection just points to moot wanting to hit it big in the NYC tech scene and wanting investors. i don't really blame him and would've gladly donated to 4chan if he still ran it today.
No.179863
>>179860>savetheintenet made 4chon as a /r9k/ + /pol/ bunker and that site died a year laterthere's something incredibly fucked up about the fact that most imageboards today actually run on forks of his code.
No.179864
>>179860>you underestimate how much of an autistic shut in moot isYeah, an "autistic shut in" that gives TED talks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_1UEAGCo30 Get real, you clown.
>moot explicitly said he added /pol/ because he felt guilty over screwing his own communities over and a fight with Sherrod DeGrippo, the original founder of ED who killed the ED community because they were unmonetizable, made him decide to bring it backAnd I don't buy that now given the new information. It sounds like a coverup.
No.179865
>>179864>Get real, you clown. lol is this MR
anyway his body language is really uncomfortable through most of that
No.179867
>>179863ey, respect tinyboard.
Though personally i prefer
tinybbs>>179864Yes, after 4chan made him famous and people in his circle and university were peer pressuring him to become "someone", because 4chan 2008-2012 was literally reinventing Internet culture, and at the time people were convinced "internet culture" meant something. Even then all his panels are fucking forced, trust me, i watched them all. Why do you think he straight up disappeared as soon as dropped canvas and 4chan?
There's a funny one here. Before he was outed as Christopher Poole there were people from Virginia college complaining that he was a shut in.
https://old.sage.moe/b/thread/33017821/#33020001Bonus points if you find the angry moot anonpost telling him to fuck off.
>It sounds like a coverup.Unfortunately, vibes don't beat facts. The evidence is all archived.
No.179869
>>179865>lol is this MRNo, it's not, but I'm sure moot tried to sue that guy already given his recent scrubbing of content.
>>179867>Unfortunately, vibes don't beat facts. The evidence is all archived.The e-mails are as well. He already lied about the fact that he only met him once, so he could be lying about this as well. And about the dates not matching: it doesn't need to be Epstein himself influencing him to create /pol/. It was Boris who said "the potential for manipulation is huge" after all. He had already with him before Epstein.
No.179870
>>179869https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01992938.pdf>Last night and this morning in SF.>Fun. Also met some interesting people. Boris Nikolic said he met him in October 20th that very morning he sent the email, in San Fran. moot had been a panelist at the O'Reilly Summit that started October 18. They met there.
The DeGrippo exchange happened in ROFLCON II, August 2011.
Even if I assume you are right, Boris had literally 4 days to convince moot to bring an irrelevant board he wouldn't have known about, as the 4chan stud and reason anyone in 2011 cared about 4chan was /b/.
I somehow doubt Bill Gates' little Igor could convince the stubborn mule knows as Christopher Poole to reopen a board over a casual chat and maybe 4 days of emails. I think he met moot and immediately suggested he arrange for him to meet Epstein while he moved back to NYC, where he actually met Epstein iirc.
No.179871
>>179870>n ROFLCON II, August 2011. *ROFLcon II.5, ROFLcon II was 2010.
No.179878
So moot didn't really want to be famous yet 4chan forced him into fame.
Kind of a shame really, but he held up pretty well throughout it, talented and stubborn little autist.
No.179879
/v/ is just hard to look at nowadays
No.179880
>>179879It's been generally awful for over a decade now, I presume you're just getting old and nostalgic.
No.179881
>>179880That's true, but it's like comparing a burning hot log coming out of your ass to explosive diarrhea on a public bus
No.179883
>>179870>Boris had literally 4 days to convince moot to bring an irrelevant board he wouldn't have known about/pol/ is not /new/. /new/ was just supposed to be about news, /pol/ is something else entirely. It's neither about politics nor news, just "Politically Incorrect". And even the mods themselves still have no idea what to allow and what to delete from that board, hence why it became the new /b/ (even taking its job of being the gateway to 4chan for newer users). And the way moot handled it seems like someone who had no real say in the matter in my opinion. I mean, he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later. I'd just delete the board before it came to that.
No.179911
>>179883>he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later.that probably has more to do with him running out of legal funds after The Fappening and having people like Epstein take interest in him.
No.179914
>>179883>I mean, he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later.technically /v/'s doing, not /pol/. gamergate blows up, and immediately after that someone leaks moots private socials with mallory blair. Then the harassment campaign on moots irl friends begins, and that's when moot really loses it.
swaglord is also partly to blame, because he was a friend of both blair and moot, and thought it was a good idea to take a pic with blair to troll 4chan, feeding the "feminist takeover" schizophrenia
actually, swaglord could have been a big factor in convincing moot to get a statu up going and hang out with nyc journo people. irwin becomes a mod out of nowhere in early 2010 despite having no history with 4chan, then moot starts networking with lerer ventures. I wonder if he attended Columbia with moot.
No.179932
>>179930post tldr, not opening /jp/
No.179939
>>179932Hi all! For many years I've mostly been hosting the /jp/ GTA server only on significant events, so I'm doing something unusual. I plan to host sometime this weekend (probably around 7-9 PM EST) and maybe even randomly intermittently while this thread is still up to check some new things I've been working on. Please look forward to it!
I mentioned on the 7th anniversary there was a possible chance that I would be moving to another country. This has indeed come to pass - I'm moving to East Asia in a few weeks where I'll very likely be living permanently, or for at least the last few years I'll be hosting this little event. So if you live in the US these next few sessions will very likely be the last before I enact the ultimate /jp/ filter of actually needing to live in asia or suffering 300 ping.
No.179953
>>179950No idea, but people from here have joined before and there was no issue whatsoever. It's probably fine as long as you're not out there advertising Kissu or something.
No.179971
>>179946>"Project Chanology" likely had investors backing it up, as it's extremely rare for these kind of protests to arise spontaneously.not investors, just media who propping it up because it aligned with their "grassroots progressivism" ideal.
Chanology started as /i/nsurgency trolls deciding to become activists. If you check the old raid wikis the "bernie liberal" mentality was pretty clear. The very first chanology thread is archived.
https://old.sage.moe/b/thread/51051816/#51051816It had some traction but not much, then became more popular outside 4chan, which retarded outsiders, in their retarded and outsider ways, just stated "4chan did this" which is how you ended up with a bunch urbanites posting longcat is long memes.
Basically a bunch of IRC hacker circlejerks peripheral to 4chan gamed 4chan to go viral.
/pol/ was grassroots too, in the sense that reps started moving there because they were getting deplatformed everywhere else. it's only later that media started saying, AGAIN, "4chan did this". This is our burden basically, to be blamed for the gayops of every little group out there.
Truth be told, boris was just wrong with the "potential for manipulation" line. 4chan never started a political movement. They has people from elsewhere (troll IRCs or rejects from social media) dress up in their colors and force politics on 4chan.
No.179986
>>179946>take EFG for exampleEFG predates Chanology.
No.180018
Seeing all of the kohai buzzwords on /a/ really is something. Everything is Peak this, Mid that, never expected that kuso to take off on there. Nobody says anything about it either. I guess it's a new era.
No.180019
>>180018They're all xitter /pol/ tourists that ended branching out.
The site really needs new word filters.
No.180030
>>180018Let them cook fr bro
No.180058
>>179867>tinybbsIs that the AnonTalk clone? I actually sorta like the UI for that even if it was designed by an actual schizophrenic.
No.180085
>>180018I hate it too but honestly you see them so much that they get stuck in your head and you end up repeating them subconsciously. I've seen millennials use them too. I guess it's just how internet lingo evolves.
No.180225
/v/ mods are still on a personal vendetta against Delrarune threads. My thread reached bump limit, no porn, no schizos, funny OP pic I made myself on RPG Maker. Still got a 3 days ban on all boards.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/743609441/This has been happening for at least a week. A new chapter released a month ago and people want to discuss the game, which at this point along with Undertale should be considered a cultural phenomenon. This is specially annoying because other recurring threads like GTA VI threads on /v/ or The Odyssey on /tv/ don't get the same treatment.
No.180226
>>180225It's well known video game discussion is forbidden in /v/. Only console war and xitter threads are allowed.
No.180227
>>180226I wish there were vidya focused imageboards like there are /jp/ spin-offs. I have nowhere to discuss videogames anonymously. We got a thread here on Kissu at least.
No.180229
>>180228Well, there's no guarantee the average game is going to get more than one or two replies as a thread, if any at all.
No.180240
>>180232It's not a lie if anon is his own uncle!
No.180242
>>180227i swear any site that has a /v/ gets cursed. i love video games but the people that want to post about them on imageboards are troglodytes.
No.180243
>>180229The souls thread has done well, it's just a matter of trying.
No.180259
>>180258In a game of chicken, everyone else lost and I won
No.180260
>>180259>game of chicken I think those are called basic self-preservation skills.
No.180263
The age of Imageboard... is over!
No.180267
>>180262let me guess, that's a deltarune thread?
No.180272
>>180267yes, sucks because I kinda wanted to see what /v/ actually discussed about zero ranger but was insanely disappointed
No.180273
>>180272i don't really feel bad for deltarune posters, to be fair.
No.180289
>>180278it's the honey girl
No.180307
>>180227Same. /amv/ exists but it's a bit slow.
No.180308
fuck I forgot to sage the thread
No.180311
I hate /dbs/ shitters. you can't have a normal conversation about dragonball on 4ch any more. Don't they get tired of that kuso?
No.180312
>>180228I don't have the motivation to carry a thread with qualityposting.
The last games I was REALLY excited for were Elin(Kissu doesn't like generals right?) and Dragons Dogma 2. New Xenoblade looks cool too but I don't own the console so that puts a damper on my excitement. Maybe I'll make a dogma thread when the DLC drops even if it wasn't everything I wanted
Speaking of Deltarune, I've been waiting for the full release. I will be cringe with the rest of the deltarooners when that is done.
Random screenshot. Does sage work with images attached? I'll find out
No.180313
MTA is getting hosted again in a few hours.
No.180314
(around 8 PM EST)
No.180315
>>180313Hope I can make it there’s a big storm outside and it might cut the power…
No.180321
>>180318iirc nonny/nona is from /lgbt/.
No.180328
>>180318I've never been called nonny on the hacker known as 4chan, are you browsing homosex threads or something?
No.180335
>>180328I mostly browse /g/ nowadays which is where I keep seeing it, first time I recall seeing it was here:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108865844Definitely started noticing it more and more on /g/
>are you browsing homosex threads or something?maybe you could say that about /g/ sometimes...
No.180418
>>180335Since always. It's just very easy wordplay to coin. But its interesting in a way: Almost all people who've come up with it are from ERP circles. Search it in the archives, most posts are roleplay related.
No.180419
>>180335>I mostly browse /g/ nowadays/g/ is one of the boards that's up there in terms of how many of its users are schizos.
No.180421
/maho/ could be half as active as /g/ if everyone here posted there instead of /g/. Nearly everyone here is a codegarch of some type so we have the numbers. I hate it but I keep going back there to refresh /g/ since you guys won't post here.
No.180430
>>180422Inactive mostly-idle board + Idol fanatics who believe that more images of their idol in their threads = their idol is the best
I think most boards have something similar to this, for example with /vm/ having the Uma fanatics with their constant 3~6 threads up at all times (despite being a lot more conservative and thoughtful about not spamming the board with new threads)
No.180469
>>1804221: They spam images in their generals which causes them to quickly reach the image limit before the actual bump limit.
2: They try to bump the thread off by posting filler ghost replies in other threads, but are unable to do so because people from other generals are doing the same exact thing and bumping their image-limited general. That's plan A.
3: So instead they try to spam as much filler garbage in their own thread instead in order to make it reach the bump limit. Once it has, they resume trying to spam other threads, but that also fails because of the 2 week autosage. That's plan B.
4: The next logical step would be to instead just try flooding the catalog with a bunch of filler ghost threads, but the issue with that is that there's a very long cooldown between thread creation by the same IP, so if you don't have a VPN or anything like that you're going to risk being unable to create a new general just as your old one is about to be bumped off, and having their 3DPD of choice be in the new general's OP is of the utmost importance to these degenerates so that's a risk they're just unwilling to take. That's plan C.
5: At this point, there are two possible outcomes:
5.1: Plan C is unsuccessful, and the descent into insanity from not being able to post a PNG of their favorite 3DPD begins to take a heavy toll on what little is left of these anons brains. They ditch all morality, and just start a new general despite their current one being on Page 6. Other anons who were waiting to feature their 3DPD will feel cheated and remember that this was done by the way, so the next general will be created by someone else when this brand-new one hits Page 5 intead.
5.2: Plan C is successful (usually because of a vpn spammer from either the same or another general creating a bunch of threads) and it now becomes a race to see who can create the new general first without doing it too soon, Wild West showdown style. What ends up happening is that several people pull the trigger at the same time and you end up with 3-4 brand new generals being made, and janny doesn't delete them for some reason so now you go back to step 1 but with several generals at the same time.
No.180474
>>180469What the actual fuck?
No.180477
>>180474I'm just answering the question...
No.180479
>>180469we have begged repeatedly for the mods to add some kind of idol board for these fucks for years, and you know what they do? they let the vtubers just stay and kuso up the board just as much as the 3dpd. fuck, 4/jp/ was so deliberately mishandled, I don't even want to open it to see the mess it is now.
No.180480
>>180479It makes me sad enough to cry when I think about all the trouble /jp/ got for just wanting to have fun. Moot hated us, the mods hated us, saegrimr hated us, the new management was more than willing to let vtubers and generals snuff out the culture that was barely hanging on.
...Not that I didn't kuso up the boards from time to time... I funposted and loved irony just like the rest. I just lament what is gone...
No.180483
>>180474>>180479And it has definitely gotten worse as of recently. I stopped using 4/jp/ very much back in 2024 but at least back then the board was more balanced with 2hu threads on the first page. Now, the first page is the gay ass idol, vtuber, etc. threads and 2hu threads are way more dead now. I do believe this is also in part due to the hack that happened. On a longer timeline its also due to the retarded changes to the site that made making threads and posts more annoying.
I do like that Kissu and other imageboards are picking up the slack.
No.180496
>>180318>>180321I'm pretty sure nonny was from /co/ MLP stuff back in the day… Nona I have only ever seen on crystal.cafe
No.180499
>>180469This could go for almost all generals, even the ultra rare "good" ones.
>>180479Mishandling of hobby boards is one of the few things jannies actually do on that site.
No.180520
>>180477No I'm not blaming you, I'm just baffled.
No.180536
>>180499I know at least one, maybe 3 /jp/ generals that aren't like that but I think naming them would just come off as advertising.
No.180540
>>180530they couldn't stand "/jp/" botspamming and report spamming the queue 24/7, then playing victim when they got hit for not playing fair.
No.180542
>>180530>the reason the mods killed off /qa/ and turned it into the you-know-what boardthey killed qa because every group in it including and especially the 2D/Random) people were in a retarded arms race to see how much they could get away with botspamming the entire board and doing retarded bot bumping subterfuge. At that point anyone would get tired and tell all involved parties to fuck off.
One could argue why they then let the cancerman teens stay but they also kicked them out, that igniting the pseudo feud that imageboard subgroup now has with the entirety of 4chan
>>180480>Moot hated usThis is based on what specifically? (genuine question). Also usually when someone says "
Everyone hated us when we did no harm" I have to take their assertions with a grain of salt.
No.180546
>>180011Damn, right side is basically a proto soyboy
No.180547
>>180469This is just the old 4/qa/ thread system reached from first principles.
No.180618
>>180612Dunno if there's enough people but I like posting in these
No.180621
>>180612I haven't posted on /g/ in forever, I only went there recently to grab the windows 10 iot hardware licence script thing off of /fwt/ for a couple of computers I had a crusty windows 7 install on. Anytime I read anything on that board, its kuso AI image dumps, mindless consumerism, the usual /v/ template threads, and other nonsense. Its definitely gone to kuso since 2017, but it is a reflection of the current tech landscape anyways.
No.180631
>>180612Yeah, I'd be open to a general questions/help thread. Seems like every /tech/ and /g/ board I've ever used has had them.
>>180588AoC?
No.180646
What the hell is it with this blacked spam? Every 3rd reply on /fa/ is some interracial tiktok. Is it another schizo
No.180647
>>180631Anonymous of Colombia aka THE /jp/ meido. And basically the guy whose neuroticism singlehandedly created the spinoff scene.
No.180648
>>180646>/fa/>another schizonot "another" schizo, its THE schizo. Ruggarell aka the guy who spent almost 15 years make blacked threads on /v/, /b/, and who knows where else.
He's obsessed with the denim thread for some reason, and has his name in autoban and the denim thread has custom post limitations hardcoded in 4chan's source code because of him.
No.180667
Someone is currently posting a new thread every couple of minutes on 4/jp/. The front page is just a bunch of 0 reply threads.
No.180668
>>180646/fa/ has little to no moderation. I've seen nudity stay up until the thread 404s, and that's not mentioning worksafe spam being allowed to mess up the board.
No.180669
>>180647Meido was great, what are you talking aboot
No.180672
>>180612>/dpt/Legitimately a sad reminder, what used to be a great little place to squibble and talk about programming has been transformed into a playground for a malicious sperg who doesn't even program and just blogposts about his GPT fueled hallucination babble, proud proclamations of being ADHD followed up by calling everyone he doesn't like "autists" and how they should be turned to fodder or feed for multiple years straight.
Although that seems to be a modern day 4chan staple, one singular person ruining it for everyone else.
No.180676
>>180672/dpt/ was just living in the shadow of /prog/, it was inevitable some schizo would take it over due to bad moderation
No.180678
They haven't been made in a very long time, but the /chad/ threads on /g/ were great and what /dpt/ wished it could be.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/subject/chad%20help/type/op/ No.180679
>>180677I wonder what moot would think of 2020's /jp/.
No.180680
Kuso that's not worth the headache like the rest of the site
No.180683
>>180672>that seems to be a modern day 4chan staple, one singular person ruining it for everyone else.yeah it's happened to /bleep/ and /classical/ on /mu/. I think the music production general on /g/ has its own resident spammer too.
No.180684
my favorite /trash/ thread has a schizo that's been making it unusable for weeks, the mods even know this and only occasionally IP wipe him
No.180690
>>180679I keep thinking of moot's graduation lamentation: "I grew up, but 4chan didn't grow up with me".
No.180691
>>180686same, had a reply I wanted to make on /v/ but gave up when I saw that
No.180695
>>180686>>180691This has cut down on posting so much. Really one of the worst things I think has happened to 4 is the cutdown on posting through absurd captchas and precautions in an attempt to eliminate spam, mostly CSAM. If there's cp, just delete it, I would agree with it more if it actually worked but I still see plenty of bot spam and cp. You might argue that 4 has enough commercial appearance that it would draw attention but I really doubt it. Really wish it'd just go back to the really simple captcha or none at all and do whatever kissu does.
No.180703
>>180686I just got that too, but mine was permanent. They must have rolled out a new ban wave.
No.180712
>>180670AoC. He has not a bad dude but he was unstable and extremely anal retentive. Which made him lowkey extremely influential as his anal retentiveness caused ghostposting to become /jp/ culture and /ota/ (therefore hima and gnfos and our entire family tree except for bun) got started by people who spent an entire year trolling the fuck out of him. Basically funposting exists because tokiko and otamin fucking hated AoC.
kuso, he was fired twice. moot apparently found him funny so he kept giving /jp/ to him and he was the only guy who was allowed to run a script to autodelete posts.
>>180670Of Colombia. He actually started the "Anonymous of [place]" trend.
No.180713
>>180672Honestly I haven't been to /dpt/ ever since
the dra/g/on maid poster AKA Eli Selig stopped posting there, did another schizo appear or are you talking about that one?
No.180714
This is why generals are bad. They're inherently fragile. You should post your programming thoughts to /maho/. We could make a programming blog if it helps.
No.180715
>>180714>You should post your programming thoughts to /maho/Are you suggesting we should make a programming thoughts general - /pgt/?
No.180718
>>180714I agree
Generals were the worst thing to happen to anonymous bulletin boards, they inherently go against the spirit of anonymous with users interacting with the same people everyday to the point that cliques are made, and if certain people stop liking each other they vent their frustrations with passive-agressive remarks, which makes shitposters get ahold of this and put fuel to the flames, and at the end you have an unsuable thread that is only visited by the same butthurt people or the trolls looking for a dramafest.
No.180720
>>180715nah, just make /prog/, I was tempted to make a catch all kind of general for consumer tech, thinkpads, and OS nonsense, but I felt the topic was too broad so I relented.
No.180722
Generals are a symptom of a board filled with low quality content/engagement and mods not doing their job.
>>180715>>180720Make a thread about your tech thoughts/findings/ideas.
No.180730
>>180722Isn't this thread technically in itself a general?
No.180731
>>180730It's a cyclical thread
No.180733
This site has been half generals ever since /amv/ was made.
No.180734
>>180733Is it? Feels more like all the seasonal anime threads on /jp/ and game threads on /qa/ just got moved to /amv/.
No.180740
>>180689It's
/hmofa/. I thought it was worth mentioning here since it's one of the only times I saw a mod intervene on /trash/ that wasn't just banning a general.
No.180758
Is it even possible to post on 4chan without a Pass™ anymore?
No.180760
>>180758with a good cookie it's been a decade since it was so easy
No.180763
I was thinking about the idea of a 4chan clone without cloudflare, a lot fewer boards, and "anime website" in the rules.
No.180766
>>180730It's a containment thread, generals have a "community" around them.
No.180769
>>180421Sorry, I'm just too used to it especially after so long but I'm really only there to follow on AI developments which is partially my job with /lmg/ and some /dpt/ and /vcg/ and on occasion, /ldg/ which is a hellhole. For the engagement I put in, it's still been really good but the quality is starting to backslide with the amount of new people who don't give a crap and found a place to kuso up. It's not the only place I get AI news and follow on things but I consider myself pretty well read and up to date on the subject. I dunno if it would make sense for me to do a sort of curated AI thread from the most interesting things I found and etc. but we already have a few AI threads and I dunno if it makes sense for me to be singularly posting all that in mind.
No.180770
>>180769Post about it, doesn't matter if it's in an existing thread or a new one.
No.180861
Am I going crazy or has /vr/ lost so much traffic recently? I've been seeing the exact same threads that were made weeks ago.
No.180863
>>180861Pretty sure most of the site did
No.180879
>>180861/vr/ feels more inorganic to me these days. Like those threads asking what something was like back in the day or how was some game received at release. They don't feel like a real person that's actually curious because by the time one thread is done, another is put right up.
>>180867This prompted me to look through the charts. I don't think any board has had such a pronounced decline in activity as /jp/. Not that a chart is needed to tell when you can just look at the board.
To think the actual numbers should be even lower if you were to remove the vtuber and idol threads...
No.180881
Can someone explain me what's happening to /v/ touhou threads? there's this anon spamming the same words and getting deleted over and over again, fighting some kind of script.
No.180885
>>180883So what your saying is the numbers from the pandemic inflated everyone's idea on what a fast board should be?
Because that's what the chart is saying, like if anything this is just going back to pre-pandemic numbers.
No.180890
>>180881iirc some schizo who hates touhou and tries to flood the thread with illegal garbage.
>>180879Did the napkin math a while back and over of the board's activity is the 3d generals and hololive.
>>180882One one hand generals are always doomed to becoming hollow circlejerks but at the same time sharty vermin kill everything they touch. So I dunno what to think here tbqh.
No.180891
>>180885According to my predictions the number of posts between 2026 and 2027 will be half as much as last year (assuming activity will stay constant), so this is a downward trend, it's not going to stay at pre-pandemic levels, it's going even lower, I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029.
No.180892
>>180891> I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029Kind of late but good riddance. 4/jp/ really needs to be put down.
No.180897
>>180861>Am I going crazyYes
>or has /vr/ lost so much traffic recentlyAlso yes.
No.180899
>>180881story goes one of the main 2hu guys tried to mingle with the pedoproxy people and it blew up badly, and since november last year the pedoproxy has been trying to kill every thread that has reimu in the OP. They mellowed out, it used to be csam.
>>180885its saying vtumors outnumber every other jp topic of interest by a 5:1 ratio, and now that they left and vtubing is deatj, jp returned to the mean.
No.180911
>>180899i really did wonder what the history behind that was. it was obvious that he was using that tool because of the randomized resolutions.
No.180916
>>180891>I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029There are those who feel they have some sort of loyalty to the board, so I suspect there will always be a dozen or two who will keep posting Touhou on /jp/ no matter how clogged up in generals the board gets. If Touhou on /jp/ can survive a vtumour apocalypse it can survive anything. Not necessarily "be alive", but "survive".
Feels a little weird to use Touhou as a measure of aliveness, but that's really the only topic on the board that isn't self-quarantined to generals.
No.180959
>>180885Imo all boards feel different pre pandemic and post pandemic, the site bleed users like crazy
Even on slow boards I could have discussions that lasted the same day back in 2018
No.180960
>>180885>>180959It's a difference in quality, not quantity.
Pre-pandemic, many of the nerdy hobby boards still had long-lasting threads with sincere, in-depth conversation and/or witty funposting.
The pandemic boost flooded many slower threads off the board, but when the tide receded, many effortposters didn't return. Even threads that managed to last never had the same sincerity, depth or wit.
Then the hack happened, and most of the remaining effortposters left. So did half the mods. The mods who cling to the sinking ship are the ones who weren't in touch enough with the community to leave when the community did.
No.180961
>>180960>It's a difference in quality, not quantity.can't say I notice a thing. The kids are still kids, the autists are still autists, the bandwagon retards are still the same.
The only meaningful qualitative change I've noticed in over 15 years in imageboards was the culture war, and that was a slippery slope of off-topic take overs of threads that hit bottom in 2016-2018.
The pandemic changed nothing besides shifting where the kids resided and what manner of vernacular the flourished their particular brand of dumb kuso with.
>Then the hack happened, and most of the remaining effortposters left. So did half the mods. I had you till there. both statements are factually wrong. The hack changed even less than the pandemic, it was a nothingburger.
>The mods who cling to the sinking ship are the ones who weren't in touch enough with the community to leave when the community did.Which community?
There's around 200 separate communities that compose 4chan and i'm likely lowballing it.
No.181029
I decided to check out /jp/ after leaving for a bit, and holy kuso.
I leave for couple of weeks and the board is completely unusable.
Seriously, I counted four threads that weren't complete kuso shows.
I remember it being bad, but not this bad.
My guess would be that the people who didn't migrate slowly left as the board became more and more unusable.
It's not that surprising, both during the hack and after the autosage, there were people who said that they wouldn't migrate and that if it got too bad they would just stop using imageboards entirely.
No.181033
I have visited 4chan perhaps 5 times in the last few months.
Never posting.
About a month ago I shuffled through my reaction image, general 2DR folder. It's been a perpetual stew of images running since circa 2008.
To be frank, alot of it aged very poorly to me. I had to take stock that not only could I never find most of these images when I would want them, but that I almost never posted any of them.
So I deleted many stupid ones, and sealed off the rest never to be used again.
I am not an archivist and it's time I accept that.
I don't care about chan culture; I haven't felt close to it since old /qa/ revived the fainted spark in my heart of those days. I'm ready to let go.
No.181035
>>181029> I counted four threads that weren't complete kuso shows.Which?
No.181037
>>179867>was literally reinventing Internet culture, and at the time people were convinced "internet culture" meant something.You know how out of touch this sounds? The Internet back then was in the process of getting cordoned off but it was still gigantic. The only time I ever heard about 4chan was because of some offhand Youtube comment that mentioned boxxy, who mentioned 4chan in her video.
It wasn't until 2013 that it really started making waves by which point everything was highly centralized.
It's only when 90% of the internet was gone 4chan became a "prime mover" of internet culture.
Y'know I think this is why I was never able to fully integrate with 4chan because their culture is totalizing. Like the whole "final boss of the internet" spiel, when the internet back then was an ocean.
No.181047
>>181037You lads are starting to mix the 2000s and 2010s together.
>It's only when 90% of the internet was gone 4chan became a "prime mover" of internet culture.4chan became a primer mover of internet culture in late 2005. In the late 00s you literally could not find a single joke on the Internet that wasn't made as a template or rage comic or shoop or copypasta on 4chan or Krautchan or Dvach, and the latter two came RUNNING to export their kuso to 4chan as soon as they could because it was the imageboard "homeland".
ROFLCON I, the "internet for internet's sake" convention, was in 2008 and moot was the special *star* guest at the time.
By 2010 we had already peaked and were running on fumes with /b/ basically dying, you had smaller boards sequestering and going the "high quality autheur" route by breaking away from 4chan and starting closed-gate community projects like Katawa Shojo or The SCP Foundation.
>It wasn't until 2013 that it really started making waves by which point everything was highly centralized.>2013Hell no. Years late. You can check it on 4stats and see 4chan was already slowing down in 2012. The only reason we weren't a dying old fart site by the mid 2010s was the culture war deplatforming half the GOP on social media and Reddit's volunteer mod system imploding and normalizing permabans on first offence, creating the a massive fucking hatefandom that went to 4chan specifically to scream bloody murder about reddit.
And even then having more posters than our format was designed for didn't make us more relevant. By the mid 2010s we were solidly a Twitter+Tumblr repost central, where the real Culture creators resided. We were reaching the point of self-parody were we kept remixing our old classics (wojak and pepe). I guess you can argue we served as a popularilty filter for other community's content and if you kuso was truly good 4chan would act as word of mouth. But it wasn' a "4chan thing".
For the record: We should have been an old fart's site a decade ago. We were denied our laurels.
No.181049
>>181047>ROFLCON I, the "internet for internet's sake" convention, was in 2008 and moot was the special *star* guest at the time.And if you pay attention to this you'll notice the closest thing even resembling competition at the time was Youtube content creators, who were arguably the only group with more cultural relevance than 4chan but lowkey it was because they had discovered how to assembly manufacture viral content and thus MAKE MONEY.
That's why half the panels in that convention were from venture businessmen trying to monetize the thing. The lads who made cheezburger and know your meme among others started there. 4chan existed in contrast as the place "pure grassroots internet" happened
No.181053
>>181033NOOOOOO!!! DUMB deletard. Could have zipped them up and let someone else archive them. Siiiiiigh.
No.181054
This is like hearing about someone else's hard drive crash but you did it on purpose
No.181055
You reminded me I need to sort my maymays
No.181056
>>181055Same I need to set up a local booru. Don't know what's the best soft for manually building a tag system.
No.181061
>>181056shimmie2 is what paheal uses and it works just fine for me as a local installation. although it kinda sucks for posting images on imageboards because you can't drag and drop onto the reply box and it won't fetch from 127.0.0.1/localhost.
No.181084
>>181033>Never posting.No kuso, nobody can post.
No.181086
>>181033Can you zip it and put upload it to desu.si or something?
No.181098
>>181061isnt paheal fucking archaic, specially for its search system?
No.181105
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse [More Info].
Musical fucking chairs of a site
No.181116
>>180686>>180695They have to be using this to kill 4chan?
These range bans make little sense otherwise.
Obviously they can't just kill it outright or there would be too much backlash, but by making it literally unusable unless you pay up or give an email.
I mostly just posted on /a/ because it's where there is still long running and active participation in a few niche series I enjoy. But i literally can't participate in the threads without jumping through these id hoops which I decline.
Kissu's /amv/ has one of them and I've crossposted for a while despite how slow it's been but I just want my 4koma threads...
No.181126
How the fuck do you get so many range bans I literally only ever got one in my phone.
Are you resetting your cookies every day?
No.181127
This is the schiz indulgence thread
No.181129
>>181126I get them and I don't even post much, sometimes I see a thread and try to make a post, wait the 2 minutes, do the faggot captcha, then still get the range ban notice
No.181130
>>181126cookies go back to minimal trust status if you dont post in a week iirc.
No.181131
>>180891what a safe, non-committal prediction.
No.181142
>>181126No, I keep Firefox open for weeks until the updates start crashing tabs (made the mistake of installing Firefox Beta).
No.181143
>>181130I use librewolf and haven't posted from this PC for 2 weeks and only the captcha got reset, no range ban.
No.181151
Why does "Who are you quoting?" make serial shitposters so mad?
No.181152
>>181151Who are you quoting?
No.181154
>>181126You post wrongthink enough times that you get targeted by the mods.
>>181151'Who quote' is a simple reliable method for revealing outsiders so it makes shitposters mad. Same with 'on what'. It's like fnord it throws a fnord into their machinery.
No.181160
>>181154ermmm reddit spacing much???? ://///
No.181161
>>181143trust system is dynamic and weighted a lot of stuff. your ISP is likely trusted, and cookie is still old even if you are an inactive poster, I believe it still takes a full month to expire (haven't checked).
No.181162
>>181161>I believe it still takes a full month to expire That does seem about right, at least that's how long it took me.
No.181168
I don't buy it.
I've had a tab open for two months and posted safe stuff regularly, I still got range banned. I almost gave up using the site but un/luckily I had a powercut and that reset the ip to something permitted but only a week or two later that one was banned too.
I did access 4chan from a couple of devices but still had one live browser session maintaining the connection, but I was posting from it one minute then the next I couldn't and still cannot post.
It seems malicious or incompetent.
No.181179
>>180867>>180879It just struck to me that most boards' pph peak of the last 6 years is either 2022 or 2023, after a correction in 2021 of the anomaly of 2020.
I believe that, without COVID, most boards would have the same slow death as we see it occurring since 2022.
No.181184
>>181168real rangebans are exceedingly rare. You get fake rangebans and those ask you to verify an email.
The trust system is dynamic, if its automatic i don't know, but dsw does tighten it when proxysite people start sperming.
No.181224
>>181098Paheal is still a thing??
No.181257
>>181184Then I don't get what's going on.
Have I offended faggot mod?
It's a uk domestic IP so who knows whether there are botfarms running off compromised networks but it's still a pain in the arse. Maybe they don't like the script blockers?
No.181260
It's quite funny how twitter has an idealised image of 4chan through /lgbt/, lately
No.181261
>>181260it does??? how????
No.181262
>>181260twitter as a whole has just become 4chan 2 in my opinion. i cam't stand being on that site for more then a second unless i want to be assulted by some 14 year old's opinion on my feed. bluesky is too porn happy for me to use that app either. hard to find anything to make work go by quick these days.
No.181272
/a/ back to 2008 levels
>>181262> 4chan 2more like /pol/+/r9k/+/int/+/v/ 2
No.181275
>>181262Funny, I just use it for looking at Japanese porn artists
No.181280
>>181261Matomete xitter accounts of 4chan boards has become a lot popular since 2023. (Do you remember that one (underage) anon that wanted to create one about /jp/ around 2020/2021?) The ones about /tttt/ general from /lgbt/ especially are very popular the past couple of months.
No.181297
Why does 4/jp/ get those "duplicate" threads? Who is making them? Why are they doing that?
No.181301
>>181297Could you post a screenshot?
No.181303
>>181301NTA but.
Though this has been happening for a while now, even before the autosage and maybe even before the recent hack.
Apparently someone spams them to push some threads down?
No.181308
>>181260Its rather annoying when people treat any site as a monolith. I can verify what you're talking about, but this is obviously a minority set of twitter peddling that rhetoric, not "twitter" the whole.
Generally any discourse about 4chan from sites like these is useless because its always from a person who only really frequented one board who has an axe to grind and a narrative to sell you. Depending on who you ask it was a queer bastion or a refuge from the censorious internet or the puppet of a global elite oligarch operation or whatever. All of these people will make these claims authoritatively as well.
>>181262Its a weird situation, feels like a chicken egg thing where I can't tell you who poisoned who first, but the certain thing is that the board coalition described in
>>181272 has fed into and taken out a substaintial portion of sects of twitter to the extreme detriment of both. Its just a homogenous pot of soup now, but the soup is actually just liquefied kuso.
I can at least mildly respect (some) 4chan boards for still telling OPs who just post twitter screencaps to fuck off, but the inverse is laughably not the case. Twitter users will just pull up kuso greentexts of posts that never got more than 10 replies maximum and trade them around to the tune of thousands of likes. Its like the specific culture there is just coalescing into what people think in their heads and not reality, and those thoughts are manifesting in tweets that actually affect reality.
No.181309
>>181308/lgbt/ was a trojan horse infiltration of the site
No.181315
>>181297They are spammed by one of the hololive anons to push their generals down. Please refer to
>>180469, it's not the same word-for-word but it's very similar.
No.181317
>>181308>feels like a chicken egg thingreally?
i feel like twitters culture is simply a consequence of its design.
No.181324
>>181317I agree, but I refer less to the natural aggravation of twitter due to QRTs and its prior (also aggressive and argumentative) culture and more to its incestuous relationship with "4chan culture", where 4chan culture refers to the sphere greentext and /pol/tard or /v/tard rhetoric 24/7 that has become the identity of many a board, with the same talking points passed around both sites.
No.181344
>>181126I used to post at work in incognito mode and now it doesn't work anymore because of a rangeban (but my phone has old cookies so it is still able to post even thought it's connected to the same network)
I don't know what it's triggering it really, I changed the browser, language, etc.
No.181345
>>181262I wonder why nobody hasn't made a clone of twitter but with anonymous names, seems like a golden opportunity.
No.181346
>>181345You could probably tweak Pleroma into doing that if it still exists idk. Sounds like a fun unhinged site idea though
No.181347
>>181346Still I'm not sure if it would catch on, the thing about twitter replacing anonymous culture on the internet is the increase of virtual egos, everyone wants something under a name.
Kinda like how namefagging or avatarfagging have gotten stronger lately in any board/general.
No.181348
>>181345On a practical level without names attached it would be more difficult to find "tweet" threads you want, and with additional changes to accommodate that it might be unrecognizable as a Twitter alternative. I don't even know how it would work without turning into another imageboard.
No.181349
>>181348Kinda like a imageboard without a catalog, just an endless feed of posts
No.181350
>>181349Holy kuso that's disgusting.
No.181351
>>181297>Who is making them? People who think their OPs won't get any (you)s so they copy posts from an archive in the hopes it will start more conversation.
80% of conversation of 4chan is built of ritual posts and the kind of person who wants to write "I LOVE MY WAIFU" once a week does not care how he achieves that dopamine hit
No.181352
maybe ritual posts is not the right word, more like ritualized discussion
No.181353
>>181349That's literally just twitter
No.181354
>>181308>Generally any discourse about 4chan from sites like these is useless because its always from a person who only really frequented one board who has an axe to grind and a narrative to sell you.User facing anonymity does not exist to make this impossible, they exist to make it not hold up to scrutiny aka anyone who bothers to reply.
IBs cannot dissuade people from trying to sell narratives, the format just makes it very easy to shoot them down, and very easy for the shot-down user to back off and disengage once he realize he's being retarded.
No.181355
>>181354No past, no legacy, no shame, no inhibitions, no narratives, no reputation, Only what you feel is right, oh and no fucking internet points just satisfaction or amusement.
You can reply a hundred times to your own post with bait or effortpost a fucking thesis.
You can hammer out an idea and not be constrained by your cringe immaturity or pushing a certain concept.
everything and nothing. chaos but everything ultimately reduces to intrinsic truths after getting called faggots for everything else.
No.181358
>>180769It'd be nice for a papersanon revival.
No.181369
>>181347>namefagging or avatarfagging have gotten stronger lately in any board/generalIt was much worse in the 2010-2015 period, especially on /a/.
No.181375
>>180421Sorry, best I can do is to talk about how I hate the computers, internet, technology, electronics, logics, systems engineering, coding, ladder programming, manufacturing, et cetera.
No.181376
>>181369I think it's widely accepted now to the point that newfags consider it "normal" and would get upset if you don't acknowledge said namefags.
No.181380
>>180883The general posting speed seems kind of accurate but I feel like /jp/ is just generally filled with far less unique threads now after 2019. It's mostly just generals, and it's not like 2019 was amazing.
No.181384
File:a.mp4 (6.05 MB,480x360)
I found this video while I was combing through my old files
No.181388
403
No.181389
>>181380There were definitely a lot more 3DPD generals cropping up after the vtumour shitshow happened a year later in 2020, or just more general threads in general really. It's been a while since I browsed 4jay regularly but it felt like the only topic you could make normal threads for was Touhou, because everything else was locked away in isolated generals. And if you wanted to discuss something new, you had to make a general for it.
>>181384Ooh, /a/ Draws Soramimi Cake. I drew a few frames for that one.
Are /a/ draws still a thing?
No.181411
>>181345Wouldn't make sense. Retweets QRTs and (to a much lesser extent these days) follows are more or less paramount to making twitter twitter. And all of these break under a full anon system. Especially when you consider since there's no traditional timeline you'd have to have a algorithmic one by default.
So you'd have an endless feed, where the next content you see is based on the previous content you retweeted and liked, from people you don't know and probably with posts that get pruned pretty fast...Honestly people would just immediately start same/namefagging and make the whole gimmick moot.
No.181448
I think 4chan is finding itself in the same situation that 2ch/5ch was in late-2000's and early-2010's. Most of text-base Japanese internet culture had migrated to Twitter, while 2ch fell into irrelevancy year after year.
No.181449
>>181448Japan's text-based culture has always been and remains a lot stronger, which allows 5ch and its splinters to have some resiliency. I'm probably less optimistic about 4chan when it looks like shortform video still isn't done eating everything and it's only getting harder to for people to read anything longer than a paragraph.
I also think it's hard to draw comparison to the past with the unique pressures of AI (post quality, collapse of advertising, or otherwise) and black swan events like Twitter changing overnight into X.
No.181463
Some guy on /a/ snapped a pic of some kid speed watching anime and the entire thread is now a pedo morality thread. Includes OC.
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/290127793#p290128475I guess 4ch can still be fun once in a while
No.181464
>>181463High quality bread
Thank you for bringing this to my attention
No.181465
>>181464Yep. Some anons really know how to draw a cute girl
No.181498
>>181126>>181344>>181272>>181257>Have I offended faggot mod?Green reddit just made a big table of posting changes and linked them to proxysite activities.
There's a fuckload of systems and they are modified all the time. Its straight up schizo - it microrangebans you for hitting a bad fingerprint and if you hit too low trust on a single device while using wi fi IP it will make a temporary blacklist of every other device you use to connect to 4chan.
gomen for the link but its literally the only place that has talked about this
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/128989/post-25237396 No.181513
>>181498>gomen for the linkTbh I was actually thinking about this post/thread after having read it yesterday, but I figured it'd be persona non grata behaviour to link KF kuso here. That being said its pretty informative (in the positive sense, at least the parts relevant to 4chan development), you'd think the bibanon people would have covered something like this already, but I guess it's the topic of the thread that expedited that research.
That being said...it more just elaborates on issues people generally had a good idea of than anything. The notions of 4chans dwindling activity and increased user hostility has been more or less felt real time by everyone who's used the site between now and 2024, I suppose its nice to have it more formally documented somewhere though...
No.181527
>>181498>>181513Some observations I made before ended up in the OP, which is pretty funny. The moot/Kimmo Alm stuff is something I've been bringing up a lot.
No.181549
>>181548
I never understood why people complained about those. I'm glad they got filtered. What's actually annoying is their frequency on low trust IPs but if rapeape was a good admin he would actually communicate with the userbase and explain why it's happening
No.181552
>>181548
the challenges themselves aren't hard but you gotta compound this with:
>1 minute timer
>captcha not aborting if you failed one challenge
>useless slider
>50/50 fake captcha failure if you are too new
Kuso like this simply frustrates people out of posting, and the numbers don't lie. desuwa is lost in the sauce.
No.181553
like kuso people with actual sight impairment could NOT solve some of the old star captchas or the current square ones in time.
No.181554
>>181552>1 minute timernot a problem unless you're deleting your cookies every day
>captcha not aborting if you failed one challengeskill issue
>useless sliderskill issue
>50/50 fake captcha failure if you are too newgood, newfaggots that are too retarded shouldn't post
No.181555
>>181554>>181554>not a problem unless you're deleting your cookies every daywrong one minute timer, the timer to *solve* captcha.
As for the rest, you are mistaking the tedium of the activity with the difficulty of the activity. And trying to posture what a hardcore 4channer you are I guess, as if anyone cares.
No.181557
>>181555>wrong one minute timer, the timer to *solve* captcha.That's a 30s timer and isn't a problem even if you're posting on cooldown like a retard.
The new captcha just exposed how stupid the userbase is. The actual problem is the fake rangebans.
No.181559
Do people really give their email to 4chan?
No.181561
>>181559Just make a fake one?
No.181564
>>181463>>181464I feel a bit bad because my kuso scribbles got more replies than the objectively better art posted later in the thread.
No.181570
>>181564Just means you posted at the right time and they didn't.
No.181571
>>181464Why does he look so... American?
No.181574
>>181464Well, it's just MHA so why not speedwatch through it.
Not like anything precious or subtle will be lost.
No.181635
4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance starting at 12 p.m. Eastern Time.
No.181637
>>181635Someone posted ayy lmaos again and they must delete the evidence!
No.181638
>>181463Someone post the /v/ one it's on my hard drive but can't find it atm.
No.181641
>>181638it was already posted in that same thread
No.181644
>Performing maintenance. We'll be back soon.
So it happened again
No.181648
>>181646damn........
.....hot
No.181651
damn I didn't know there was a happening thread here what the hell
No.181653
>>181635hope it stays down
No.181658
It's back.
No.181659
So what changed? For me, captcha was a little slow to load but that's it.
No.181661
>>181658The site is back, but the subsystem is still borked on my end.
No.181662
>>181659For me, the captcha alternated between timing out, throwing a Cloudflare gateway error, and throwing a connection error when posting. Now it does this.
It's kind of impressive how they manage to make such a low-tech site break in such eldritch ways.
No.181664
The least they could do is add funny wait music.
No.181667
>>181666They couldn't pass the captcha...
No.181678
>>181677Because it's fake. Unless someone can prove it used to be there, it's not in
https://4chan.org/4channews?all#oldnews and that page has not been used other than for anniversary pictures. If they were going to announce such a thing, they would do it on the blog they resurrected for the hack to put out a statement.
No.181679
>>181678Maybe, this does seem like a perfect time to stir the jar for laughs.
However there used to be a lot of rule breaking /g/ threads not getting deleted for a while and now suddenly the place seems more sterile.
I find it plausible that 4chan announced this and deleted it after backlash or the anon in question was a rogue mod himself...
Hiro could clear things up but I doubt that he will.
No.181680
>>181677This has to be fake
No.181684
>>181683
The entirety of 4chan is excluded
No.181724
>>181685
2ch -> 40yo senpai and politicschizo central
Futaba -> 40yo senpai and hobbyschizo central
4chan -> 35yo senpai and politischizo+hobbyschizo central, but it occasisonally gets a lot of people to discuss hot button issues that could get them deplatformed, witchhunted or just simply kicked from the group chat in their usual hangouts because public forums on the internet are about to go extinct.
No.181735
>>181732
>there sure is a lot of oldfags then
This is 100% correct in 2ch's case, Japan has a high average age, and at one point it was literally bigger than all 00s japanese social media sites put together. Those people are just not gonna stop using it.
Otherwise the site is archaic kohai repellent, and it wont get any new user flow anytime soon, unless Hiroshimoot's political career actually takes off and stars drip feeding 2ch from sheer popularity.
As for Futaba, I honestly can't tell you what % of that 800k is spambots. The motherland is a ruin. It cannot handle csam spam in time and recently got removed from wayback machine over it.
Even though I'd agree in principle I'm casting doubt on those numbers, I'd expect half at least, and futaba being much, much smaller. Where you got the stats from?
No.181738
>>181736
>reports never go anywhere.
It's working exactly as intended.
No.181746
>>181739
CSAM laws aren't for protecting children they're for controlling the web.
No.181748
STOP doing that there's not even an archive yet
No.181749
i mean nothing bad happened but just because i wanted to
on a whim
No.181756
the people are suffering from 4chan addiction. grim.
No.181912
>>181911fuck the video didnt embed at the proper timestamp, the claim is around the 10:04 mark
No.181916
I'm not watching Flesh Simulator man.
The guy is a kuso stirrer not too dissimilar to Mr. Random himself.
No.181924
>>181916Fair enough, but im still curious if the claim actually has a real basis or if its just mental gymnastics by him
No.181966
>>181924Critical thinking would infer that if you can find no secondary sources for a claim made by someone with an already unfavourable opinion of a community, that it is probably bullshit. But do your own homework.
This entire subsphere of extended something awful kuso from maladjusted internet addicts is eye melting cancer everytime I have to be exposed to it.
No.181971
>>181911QRD? I've only watched this guy's MK ultra and gubbiment stuff because with everything else you can tell he's an ultra massive
balding faggot.
No.181976
>>181971Its just some exposé on mr.random, most of the video is about him but at some point the BALD man starts mentioning SA culture along with raspberry heaven, and how the creation of 4chan wasnt actually done by moot but rather raspberry heaven as a whole because they wanted to host lolicon kuso or whatever and moot was just a guy they could pin the blame since he was still a minor.
Very strange stuff.
No.181977
>>181911Schizo vs schizo fight.
MR, the guy who basically invented 2006 /b/, running a discord harassing people at age 45 was not on my year's checklist however.
>>181924He watched the "something awful banning hentai caused the rise of the tech right" somewhat well educated conspiracy documentary and MR's other bullshit video where he slandered half of the original team4chan while claiming RH was a full on secret cabal who manipulated moot into creating 4chan and just ran with it as if it was all true
At some point James Curbo (aka Hannibal the founder of RH who was confident enough in his community not being shady to self dox) will have to make a public statement and dispel the >secret anime pedophile cabal rumours
No.181979
>>181756I lurk /biz/, sometimes
/pol/ because of the iran war general. Don't post anymore because there is nobody worth talking to on that website.
No.181980
>>181977>running a discord harassing people at age 45i'd say he's adapting to the times but actually the meta of a bunch of people in a room discussing how to fuck over someone might as well be timeless
No.181981
>>181979That entire site feels so neurotic now, its like reading into the mind of a schizophrenic, constant noise and tangential thoughts that mean nothing and go nowhere. The kuso that people post on threads now makes my brain hurt, I really miss talking to others in a grounded way, even sperg outs used to feel more logical and collected than they do now.
No.181988
>>181981>That entire site feels so neurotic nowThe modern internet user is just increasingly neurotic, alternative websites never stood a chance.
The rise (or rather proliferation) of the "named board schizo" could have been avoided though, the premier issue of 4chan is lax and completely opaque moderation, but I guess that's always been the case.
No.181996
4/jp/ is really good right now
No.182001
>>181988This is almost like a ....
virtual insanity of sorts...
No.182002
>>181996just checked. no.
No.182004
>>181911>>181924>>181966Wasn't the internet wild west back then and hosting loli wasn't that big of a deal? Why would they need a fall guy for this purpose? It's not like 4chan was advertised as a loli site or for any illegal purpose.
No.182007
>>182004>Why would they need a fall guy for this purpose?you dont, this is MR's retarded attempt at amplifying his "internet mastermind" brand and not "literal schizophrenic who lost everything, was homeless, and now lives in the cali boonies with his mom".
Him being a schizomod that was 24/7 on /b/ is actually true, and documented in his mentions and embeds on old.sage.moe. But that's about it for the facts.
In his schizo mind he turned /b/tards into Anonymous by manipulating /b/'s mindless mob phenomenon into becoming a liberal troll army. Something he dates around the time of the Hal Turner raids, whose harassment he claims to be directly involved in. MR has an entire philosophy behind this idea of /b/, he deleted the videos now but on his dogwalk videographies he goes on about anonymous idealism quite a bit. He basically went for the whole "potential for manipulation is great" epstein meme but in 2006.
So of course it makes sense that 4chan was "very illegal" in his mind, because he was going above and beyond what everyone else in 4chan staff was doing, and was literally hallucinating he was controlling a revolutionary mob.
Alongside this he was part of Raspberry Heaven, you can find him on RH's wayback pages. So to further sell his brand image he spices up RH to be a "developer collective" with the express purpose of making counter culture kuso, and not just a perfectly average 2000s IRC group where hannibal's personal circlejerk mingled with a bunch of guests to chat and talk about anime, and these tangentially connected groups just happened to own servers. Kuso like half of RH were actually 4chan imports. See MVB and Shii.
The "RH ran 4chan to host lolicon" kuso is some drunken telephone game about Censored_Vagina, another RH guy who very likely footed the november/december 2003 4chan bills for moot and volunteered to manage bank accounts, then dissappeared in 2004. MR also omits doing a big donation under the pseudonym "Marmandy Jones". He even got his own banner for that.
>Wasn't the internet wild west back then and hosting loli wasn't that big of a deal? The 00s internet was a wild west in the sense that it was populated by competing gangs of teenaged kids who were dick measuring each other 24/7. You could cause scandals with impunity.
>and hosting loli wasn't that big of a deal?It always depended on how you presented it. loli entered the west as an artstyle in the same way chibi is an artstyle, specially thanks to late 90s blob like shojo manga/anime styles. Nobody knew about about the real porn magazines the lolicon fandom originated from.
Kuso, Bleedman drew "western loli" but nobody saw Bleedman's kuso as pedophilic. Just retarded and angsty.
No.182065
>>182054I no longer use 4/jp/ so I haven't updated my filters in a long time, it should be closer to 60 actually.
No.182121
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse
It's been months
No.182198
Damn, there's no mirror of the RH wiki, even IA has only few pages archived. I remember reading through it not that long ago.
No.182290
I was forced to delete cookies on my browser and got affected by the IP range ban even though I have a static IP I have been posting with for years and never ban evade or do weird kuso.
No.183004
>>183001It's a circlejerk.
No.183005
>>183001Shooting the kuso, if your screenshot is any indicator.
But nevar forget anon, ALL 4chan jannies are unpaid discord losers who doxed themselves to delete threads they don't like. A terrible fate has already befallen them with or without your anger towards them.
No.183067
Dangerous levels of irony...
No.183167
This is one of those cases where I can just sense that something is wrong about the poster without even having to look up his origin on the archives.
No.183174
there's something wrong with sagers
No.183191
>>183181/vt/ sucks and your oshi (this one particularly) or whatever is kuso
No.183207
>>181151Shitposters throw a hissyfit because they can't interact with others without irony.
>>183203Rapeape one got deleted.
>>181154"on what" is too known now so it doesn't have same effect these days.
No.183367
>>183068this post reads really funny, but I do wish to know what it originally said
No.183550
Anyone having trouble verifying their email? I got the "verify email address" notice and in the past that worked but for some reason now it's saying that the link that it sends me is invalid or expired.
I sincerely hope that 4chan shuts down permanently sometime within the next year, fuck that garbage website.
No.183573
How much of 4chan's traffic do you think is artificial?
I think that almost every board has at least some bot posts.
No.183574
>>183573Probabably about as much as any big social media site (so 50%+ of the userbase)
No.183580
>>183573it's choke full of precures, shills, and bots to the point of being unbearable. and i doubt it ever gonna change at this point, it'a terminal patient.
No.183585
>>183573Probably 30%, with some boards being much more botted than others. Everything else is stealth ads for twitter accounts, poopdickschizo posting, and discord generals.
>>183001Genuine cancer. Banning popular franchises makes sense only if actual discussions fill the gap and not offsite ragebait slop.
No.183590
>>183588Is it the mods?
I get a "bad gateway" error when I try to get one...
No.183596
>>18357350-60%.
On the biggest boards easily 70-80%.
No.183599
>>183598>the IP counter was disabled a while ago but that in itself probably means they're hiding something.Literally just apathy. Allegedly it was disabled in preparation for a sale so Hiro could bullshit the potential buyer that the actual userbase is larger, and when that didn't go through, nobody in the staff gave a kuso to turn it back on.
No.183603
>>183600Just got it as well. I don't recall any maintenance happening today, right?
No.183604
Of course the site shits itself right after I return from a ban.
>>183601https://github.com/webserver-llc/angie No.183605
4chan is down... CELEBRATE!
No.183606
yeah API isn't working either, rest in piss
No.183607
>>183604So what? Does it mean 4chan has been shut down?
No.183609
Interesting time for me to open this thread, haven't even opened 4chan in months
>>183607could just ask in the IRC...
I figure they fucked up something while trying to remove...something else,
No.183611
Earlier today some people mentioned that the captcha was slower than usual I think.
No.183613
the cdn is still up
No.183614
>>183607It means one of the potato servers exploded while a dev was trying to fix the captcha issues that happened some hours ago.
No.183615
>>183609Been a while since I used the IRC channel. Forgot my password.
No.183616
Wasn't there a similar issue with the captcha being very slow/borderline unusable a few months ago? Weird.
No.183617
>>183599Wouldn't shock me but 4chan seems like a good place to shape public opinion through repeated ragebait like all the spam I linked to.
They did it with the constant Apple spam to the point where users turned posting Jay's dox as a meme so it kinda feels intentional tbh.
Maybe the AIsloppy isn't getting enough positive attention anymore and AI companies are getting desperate and 4chan opened their ass to them.
>>183614Fuck, they don't even give you a heads up that their kuso site is going to go through "maintenance", whatever that means, anymore.
If there's any real people left on 4chan anymore it has to be masochists, maybe they enjoy kuso breaking all the time and the rampant spam there.
No.183618
>>183610post the flac version onegai
No.183619
Weird that sites are so always online all the time now that any downtime is regarded as death immediately, at least sites like these anyway.
If Kissu randomly went down my first thought would be someone (Vermin) fucked something up server side, not that it died (unless I'd have contextual reason to think that it got canned)
No.183620
>>183619Because 4chan has been infamous it's entire existence and there are certainly groups who want to kill it. Hell, a lot of users want it dead.
And with the increasing amount of censorship on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to take it down. Doesn't help that in April of last year the site was down for nearly 2 weeks.
No.183622
>>183620i kind of want it to die so we can move on to better imageboards
No.183623
>>183622When 4chan dies there won't be any more image boards and possibly internet for that matter
No.183624
>>183623My thoughts exactly. As garbage as the site is, it keeps a measure of freedom for the internet. Anonymity would become a much more rare thing.
No.183626
>>183617>it kinda feels intentional tbh.I'm not ruling out malice at all, but incompetence is definitely at play on a site that neglected security updates for an entire decade.
No.183627
>>183623>>183624what the hell is this site then? wow, people will be forced to find alternatives that aren't run by a kuso cabal? real horrible stuff, i know
No.183628
>>183620A lot of people want a lot of things dead. If this was a hack it'd probably be as explicit as the last time and make it clear, if I thought they got hacked it'd be because I think they're incompetent, not because some spurned autist hates their guts.
>>183622You can do this right now though. And also the spinoff sphere (or whatever the appropriate term is) isn't
actually ready for an actual 4chan death. Probably never will be.
No.183629
>>183626>I'm not ruling out malice at all, but incompetence is definitely at play on a site that neglected security updates for an entire decade.i still can't believe that. genuinely retarded sysadmin for one of the biggest communities on the internet.
No.183630
does verm have a plan for the eventual collapse of 4chan and the resulting migration
No.183631
Thought about this happening earlier strangely enough.
>>183598I thought the AI jannies thing was fake.
>>183608iirc the homepage is separate from the rest of the site, you'll get hit with a cloudflare challenge going to it even if you've been browsing other boards without.
>>183619Unannounced outage and everyone is jumpy post-hack.
>>183610thank you
No.183632
>>183622Are there any imageboards like 4chan out there anyway? I know that 7chan still exists and has boards for basically anything but it doesn't seem to get much activity, and then there's 8chan which is 8chan.
No.183633
>>183627I have no idea what the "kuso cabal" is, but I think it would still be a horrible thing. It makes the internet feel smaller and like the world became more sterile. Yes, the site is garbage, but it's also a really big gun to the face of the people who want to control everything and force the world to have virtual ID's and to censor anything they don't agree with.
what does this button do? No.183634
>>183630Just put kissu.moe under kissu2.moe and then redirect all links for the former to gnfos and the cancerman site
No.183635
imo it's pretty clear rapeape is getting $$$ to undermine 4chan. all you'd have to do is pay that guy like 50-100k and he'll overlook whatever you do basically.
the captcha stuff was done to reduce users on it and drive them to other websites. considering all the kuso that is allowed it's 100% clear somebody like him is petty and malicious so it's also possible he's doing it just to spite hiro too.
No.183636
>>183632Can you even go to 8chan?
No.183637
>>183636I'm referring to moe but I guess 8kun is a thing. The current owners seem to have turned into a shithole for schizophrenic conspiraboomers though, i haven't visited it since it shut down as "8chan".
No.183639
>>183638wtf when was this thread put on autosage...
No.183640
>>183638i'm too shy to bump the thread...
No.183641
>>183638just use the watched threads feature as intended
No.183642
>>183628>>183630>And also the spinoff sphere (or whatever the appropriate term is) isn't actually ready for an actual 4chan death. Probably never will be.Is it even going to be anything beyond the 2025 hack? A lot of the userbase is addicted to Xitter and will rather stay there than seek out altchans, many that aren't already use other imageboards, and what remains is made of relatively few people that may not even want to adapt to divergent cultures of other sites.
>>183638Dumb greentard
No.183643
>>183638the happenings thread has blog mode enabled, which means every post will be a sage until a certain amount of time has passed (like
>>183630,
>>183617,
>>183600)
that's just how blog mode works, it's been around for quite a while
No.183644
>>183637Oh, I forgot it got turned into 8chan.moe
Now I remember.
No.183645
hello happening friends. is it really that time again?
No.183646
>>183621Their AI spam coming to a sudden halt would raise a lot of alarm bells too.
>>183622I've pretty much given up on it 80%.
>>183623There will but it will be more fragmented is my best guess.
However if 4chan is a place for shaping opinion about things through ragebait then it won't be allowed to die.
It will be an endless cycle of resurrections because there's probably too many useful idiots there.
>>183632Not really, as much as I've started liking Kissu it's niche in some aspects.
I'm originally from Umigalaxy and the owner there is experimenting with a lot of things.
This is a similar story with pretty much every altchan you come across tbh.
But IMHO Kissu has the upper hand if you resent 4chan for killing /qa/. I have seen no other better continuation of it than here tbh.
No.183647
>>183642>A lot of the userbase is addicted to Xitter and will rather stay there than seek out altchans, many that aren't already use other imageboards, and what remains is made of relatively few people that may not even want to adapt to divergent cultures of other sites.There was the whole deal of increased activity across the board for altchans and whatnot when the hack happened. A lot of 4chan users are twitter addicts but they're probably nobodies there, which is harder to deal with when not anonymous. Idk there isn't a promising easy migration imageboard though, now that I think about it.
>>183644.moe is a fork, .kun is the original
Think Jim got dropped from his hosting provider recently for something stupid, and 8kun seems like its beyond deaths door and waiting to be buried these days
No.183648
>>183645yes babe, it's your yearly 4chan downtime, sit tight
No.183649
So has anyone tried asking in the IRC yet?
No.183650
>>1836478moe got a lot of traffic simply because it was still on everyone's mind. I think I'm one of the only ones who went to 7chan to say hi.
No.183652
>>183649they're probably getting flooded with askers right this moment
NOT me though i DON'T care
No.183653
>>183647>.moe is a fork, .kun is the original>Think Jim got dropped from his hosting provider recently for something stupid, and 8kun seems like its beyond deaths door and waiting to be buried these days.moe is practically the real 8chan, whilst 8kun from the onset was just a revival of the 8chan that ended up being the focal point of online schizos obsessing over tripfag "drops" on 4chan. In other words, jim just turned it into a way for him to farm money from schizos.
No.183654
>>183649you think i care? i hope gookmoot is flayed alive and all the jannies are turned into fertilizer
No.183656
>>183632Not really? That just ended up the big hub of users. When, not if, 4chan finally croaks people will spread across the landscape similar to last year's April Hack. It'll be chaotic. The great Altchan War of 20XX will commence, there will be winners and losers, but no site will ever have that level of activity ever again.
Which is both a bit sad and arguably for the best.
No.183657
The front page and its related static pages, the i.4cdn file servers, and even the parts hosted in sys.4chan (reports, captchas and other stuff) work. It's the "front end" of boards and threads what is down.
No.183658
>>1836568moe is fucking cancer, I hate how the site itself works and I don't like its people
No.183659
>>183653QAnon started before 8kun though...that 8kun is kuso is besides my point, it is basically the original 8chan, but spun off to avoid legal kuso
>>183652>>183654You both sound like you care quite a bit
No.183660
>>183658fwiw it works way better now since everyone shat on it during the 4chan downtime
No.183661
>>183659i care in the sense that i really hate what 4chan has become and the current administration and would be happy to see it put out of its misery like it should have last year
No.183662
>>183659>QAnon started before 8kun though...that 8kun is kuso is besides my point, it is basically the original 8chan, but spun off to avoid legal kusoQanon started and "ended" on 4chan through some guy with a trip that went by Matlock. Retards followed it even outside of 4chan for some reason, then when the shitposter dropped the drip you got Jim picking it up to farm schizo money.
No.183663
>>183659i DON'T care in the sense that i am apathetic but still saying it in a silly way because it's funny
No.183666
>>183647>>183665The point is most people who'd give a kuso to move already tried out the options last year, even if briefly.
No.183669
>>183665its doubtful...the most popular IBs mostly detached from the history of 4chan are probably the two woman oriented boards, and one is just a gossip forum
>>183666I get your point, I'd still say there's a mental difference between knowing something will probably be back vs knowing its done for good, the latter would spur slightly different behaviour
No.183670
>>183667rapeape regularly talks about how he's the one actually running 4chan on twitter and i wonder if hiro even knows that
No.183671
>>183669Are you talking about Fujochan and Lolcow?
No.183672
>>183671the latter + crystal cafe, idk much about the former
No.183673
>>183668Me when I try to infiltrate the faggy homosexual gay club
No.183674
>>183670hiro is somebody who iirc got his own website stolen from him previously?
i wonder what's going on inside hiro's head about all the declining metrics 4chan has? i don't get how he looks at a 50% userbase decline and just nods to rapeape? i'm pretty sure rapeape is getting paid to do it, but i'm also wondering if hiro is too.
No.183675
He's too busy with his political career to care about 4chan
No.183676
I wonder if moot sometimes browses 4chan post 2016
No.183677
>>183675He has little reason to care.
Buying it in the first place was probably partly a move made in response to Jim swiping 2ch from under his nose (and part networking kuso from Moot) anyway. But 2ch (now 5ch) is irrelevant, Jim is irrelevant, and Hiro has a successful career which 4chan has nothing to do with (well, if you ignore his stupid POPOPO "last human social media in the age of AI" garbage failing miserably anyway)
No.183678
>>183675i forgot about that. since they elected that female prime mister i completely stopped paying attention/remembering. it's still a little strange though? even if he doesn't personally manage it or care he doesn't have anybody to manage his assets? maybe not considering he got his other website stolen though lol
No.183679
>>183677>>183678i'll say that it's really funny that it stopped being maintained the moment he took ownership of it. good old japanese software maintenance.
No.183680
>>183678Rapeape has spoken openly on twitter about how he runs 4chan so I assume that there's been a behind the scenes agreement with the two of them. Other than that I'm pretty sure that Hiro hasn't made a statement about 4chan in a long time, much less manage it himself. It's probable that he assumed 4chan would be a low maintenance passive income generator, alongside the notoriety of owning a website with a reputation like that. But really the only one who would know why he really bought it is himself and perhaps moot.
No.183681
>>183665How do people say this in the hyptohetical when we had the best conditions possible for it to be proven during the hack? Imageboards in the west will functionally die with 4chan and will be a niche curio the way textboards are now.
No.183682
>>183631I don't see any other explanation of why specific ragebait content like the snailcat spam on /g/ almost never gets deleted there.
>>183675>>183677I'm not convinced given the AI janny thing being likely. He's likely up to something now that he's shown great interest in AIslop.
My best guess right now is he's greasing hands with AI companies for pass money. Too many coincidences going on right now tbh.
>>183676He'll probably go down like hotwheels except maybe they payed him enough to stfu about revealing who he is or talking bad about 4chan.
No.183683
>>183658Don't go to the meta threads/gamergate threads, it's a very chill site if you stick to a niche thread.
No.183684
>>183681>will be a niche curio the way textboards are now.people probably just prefer having attachments. we got imageboards in the west before textboards after all.
No.183685
>>183683Same with most places. The other boards that aren't as mainstream are just chill on 4chan.
No.183686
this angie person seems to have relinquished her hold on 4chan
No.183687
It's back!
No.183688
It's back! [Sad News]
No.183689
>>183685Yeah I've had very good discussions on the 8 /v/ for my niche vidya interests, the IDs are not perfect but they do deter people who only come to shitpost and pretend to be other people.
No.183690
>>183689ID and multiple files per post is so very retarded.
No.183691
>>183681cause familiarity is comforting but blinding. time moves on but people get stuck with habits and previous understanding. a lot of people think too highly of 4chan influence/popularity not understanding the younger generations are elsewhere and it's mainly new pajeets not kids coming to 4chan in 2026. even if there's 4chan cultural stuff spreading around it doesn't mean they come read the pajeets/bots on 4chan personally.
No.183692
>>183681>the way textboards are now.DQN is faster than most (if not all) non-4chan boards as of right now
No.183693
>>183690It's different, the place works like an old school forum, but with anonimity.
You only enjoy start to the place when you let go of your old habits from the 4.
No.183694
>>183689The site might be back, but I'm going to try and stick around the other image boards more now. See what the rest of the internet knows.
No.183695
THEY ARE KILLING THE TENSHI THREADS
No.183697
>>183694they're too slow. low attention span doesn't only affect tiktokers.
No.183698
>>183696just have a browser exclusively for 4chan and give it all the cookies and access it needs if you really want to post hassle free. don't post on incognito or mobile data.
No.183699
>>183695We can't have nice things anymore don't you get it?
No.183700
>>183698Same kuso on brave/chrome/firefox. I won't give them pass money so they're going to extort my email next. What utter bullshit of a site.
No.183701
>>183696When did you get hit? I noticed when I got back home Wednesday. First time I've been rangebanned ever outside of mobile.
No.183702
>>183695They usually let them live. Wonder why they don't want them this time.
No.183703
Partys over now, the lot of you can now take a break from complaining about 4chan and go back to using 4chan.
No.183704
>>183701About a month ago and mobileposting SOMETIMES works if I reset my IP a few times.
But I hate doing that because telephone companies probably put you on a list for that.
No.183705
>>183682The issue is that the /g/ jannies are notorious for not giving a kuso, otherwise they would have done something about the apple spam and never would have allowed the pedoproxy people use 4/g/ as their personal meta board. That being said
>snailcat spamis 100% astroturfed by baiting shartyfags.
No.183706
>>183695The only non deleted Tenshi thread is on /pol/ of all places
No.183707
>>183705I find that hard to believe when threads discussing the lack of AV1/Webp support gets nuked on the regular.
It feels too automated to just be some lazy ass janny being kuso as his so called "job".
No.183709
>>183692You mean the one on 5ch, right?
No.183711
>>183696i now remember this happening to me years ago for about a year.
they had blocked my whole country except sometimes, phoneposting worked.
i remember reading people saying they experienced the same thing at different times and accusing them of wanting to force people to buy the pass.
but only a retard would buy the pass after the hack.
just stay here.
No.183712
>>183705One of them silently rangebanned me to prevent me from posting the other day for supposedly using AI to write my posts and even gave a off the cuff reply post. My god, was that infuriating and I even posted a Pangram result in response to try and prove my innocence if we were going to resort to "AI detection" in this manner. They clearly do not give a fuck and give powers to the worst possible people to give them to. The snailcat spam is mostly sharty trying to kill memes like they did always but it did originate with people making fun of "luddites" for not using AI.
No.183713
>>183711I'll crosspost for now but 4chan killing /qa/ and all the stupid lore about it has me hella curious tbh.
Like how the hell did 4chan turn a board meant to be a goodbye to moot into a junkyard lmao.
No.183714
>>183713hey there was a lot of neat junk in that yard
No.183715
>>183713Like many bad decisions it was molded by a committee of varying interests and indifference.
No.183716
(Allegedly) A lot of the retardation going on with 4chan right now really only exists because of that residential IP CP spammer, not because the jannies are trying to fuck over users. They
are fucking over users, but that's not the main reason AFAIK.
>>183713It became a dumping ground for 'jak spam, and the final nail in the coffin was an /lgbt/ raid. All the way back in 2019 (2018?) the catalog was being completely flushed with 'jak spam. I remember back then there was a commonly posted screenshot that was supposedly from an artist that made all of the 'jak variations at the time for a diaper-loving furry.
No.183718
>>183717this goes beyond autism.
No.183719
i believe it;
takes a very sick soul that's long starved of love and light to want to proliferate cancer like 'jaks so singularly
No.183732
>>183713The mods ran the board into the ground. The jakslugs and all their assorted ilk were allowed to post while everyone who cared about the board was banned and deleted.
No.183748
>>183717This definitely did not happen, people will believe anything I swear.
>>183713>Like how the hell did 4chan turn a board meant to be a goodbye to moot into a junkyard lmao.Everyone involved in /qa/ was a dumbass with more grandiose ideas than was ever warranted. Nothing but bots and spammers from almost the start, shouldn't really shock anyone that that set the standard for the board going forward.
Real issue was mods not putting their foot down and forcing it to be meta only, but if jannies and mods on 4chan actually did their job this website wouldn't even exist and I'd have no need to say any of this.
No.183749
>>183627You know, Kissu isn't a 4chan alternative by design.
Hence the aversion to the "altchan" nickname.
Kissu is a hobbyist imageboard not a free speech one.
No.183750
>>183633>but it's also a really big gun to the face of[...]kissu is not a threat to anyone who holds power, if it was then the FBI would come knocking on Verniy's door and Verniy would shut down the site and piss himself but not in that order
No.183751
>>183749it will turn into a free speech ine and it VILL like it
No.183775
>>183749You say this because /pol/tards have traumatized you.
No.183790
>>183750Actual order is the 2nd and then the 3rd and then the 1st
>>183750>kissu is not a threat to anyone who holds powerneither is 4chan
>>183749>not a free speech one.neither is 4chan, dunno where the free speech angle people drag it for came from, but it being permissive towards politics doesn't mean that's the banner it carries.
You're thinking of 8chan or some kuso, where Brennan explicitly said it was about free speech.
No.183793
>>183750>kissu is not a threat to anyone who holds poweri am kissu
i am a threat to my employer
No.183797
>>183790>don't know where it came fromBecause the whole point of 4chan from the moment it stopped being just the goon hentai bunker was in the essay about anonymity, and that essay had in part defended anonymity on the grounds of 'if you think it's boring you're free to say it's boring'. The right to criticize without being dogpiled by the forum elders in specific, but the right to be critical in general was there from the get go.
No.183800
There's a thread about /g/ users crying about WebP for Nth time again but curiously the OP linked to rapeape twitter and it hasn't been 404'd yet. Curious oversight or intentionally middle finger to rapeape from the /g/ mods????
https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/109917553Also the first response was pretty quick, could that be rapepae himself trying to shut it down?
No.183801
>>183800Nah thats a typical /g/ poster, I would agree too since webp is pretty kuso, someone else in the thread explained that it is better for thumbnails and I agree with that.
No.183802
>>183801If it's so kuso then why does kissu support it?
No.183807
>>183802Because kissumin is not an ape that grapes
No.183808
If 4chan does collapse it will be a disaster for other imageboard's quality
No.183809
>>183801it's also pretty good for assets isn't it? for stuff users upload it's asinine
No.183811
>>183793we are kissu
we are region
forgive and forget
expecto patronum
No.183833
>>183798That they said this does not mean it happened. You give a lot of power to a guy who literally killed himself over half a decade ago.
Its a large scale anonymous forum. Of course the potential is there, all they did was make more people racist and hate norms. This premise people always push is fucking retarded
No.183835
>>183833Whatever you say, RapeApe.
>all they did was make more people racist and hate norms.Create more division within society and make people focus on that instead of the bigger picture you mean? Seems like that aligns with their goals if you ask me.
No.183849
>>183716>(Allegedly) A lot of the retardation going on with 4chan right now really only exists because of that residential IP CP spammer, not because the jannies are trying to fuck over users.it doesn't matter
i've interacted with mods long enough to know that if the proxysite and all its devs were to die tomorrow, they are not going to revert the posting restrictions. The damage is permanent.
>>183711>>183713People will give you 7 hundred reasons but the cause for /qa/'s death its extremely simple:
/qa/ had no janitors. And of all the boards without janitors, it had the most reports by far. Mods want to circlejerk, not work. Deleting posts is for jannies.
They simply got tired of moderating /qa/ and were too retarded and prideful to accept the board as the blue /b/ it was and give it jannies (which was a thing since 2016 but they only started caring when soyteens added two 0s to the pph)
>>183717This was a psyop by one of the first soyjak spam discords. One of the guys behind it talked about it in the hack: he was responsible for a LOT of kuso that later became "classic" soyjak culture, iirc he made the markiplier jak, the chudjaks / billions must die face (and falseflagged leftypol), had a hand in the 500 soyjaks mega shitpost your image comes from.
At this point I'm almost convinced the only soyjak founder who wasn't part of some discord cabal was soot the guy who set up the actual sharty.
maybe it's more acurrate to say that shitposting simply isn't organic, and every shitposter/spammer performs for a secret audience.
No.183850
>>183798We've refuted this a couple months ago.
Sequence of events does not match. Boris meet moot in Cali in an expo and had like 20 hours to convince him to meet up with Epstein before moot came back to NYC, and that's assuming he spend 100% of his remaining time messaging with moot.
>>183797this
>>183692>DQN is faster than most (if not all) non-4chan boards as of right nowstatements dreamed up by ssz in a syrup induced delirium
No.183851
>>183681>Imageboards in the west will functionally die with 4chan and will be a niche curio the way textboards are now.I think people conflate 4chan somehow achieving the internet equivalent to immortality to anonymous forums as a concept not working.
As a service, bulletin boards without registration tend to centralize onto a single service. People are naturally drawn to the speed and feed-like content cycle. Once an anon forum achieves centralization, it will remain the center of its language until it dies.
We won't know what the next 4chan is until 4chan dies, or ruins its service by making it impossible to post. After that, the trend will reset and another imageboard will becoming hegemonic.
No.183852
>>183680Hiro's last interaction was ordering the deletion of /r/ after seeing it mentioned in the news as a "cyberstalking venue". RapeApe did not even protest.
Otherwise Hiro is too busy with his political career delirium to remember he runs 4chan.
No.183853
>>183677>But 2ch (now 5ch) is irrelevant,Kuso you not, it has a ppd at almost 200000, if what this guy posted in 4/hap/ (4/hap/'s lounge thread to be exact) is real.
https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/24975481/#25057771The real surprise is Futaba having 250k/day. I wonder how either site deals with bots
inb4 they don't No.183854
>>183850>We've refuted this a couple months ago.No you didn't. IT doesn't need to be Epstein himself influencing moot to do what he wants, only his "social circle".
Now go back to the jannycord where you knowingly hand over all your personal information to RapeApe and dozens of different intelligence agencies.
No.183855
>>183854Well you can read the thread (maybe its the imageboard happenings thread i forgot), but people have actually sat down and measured the times and locations where moot met Boris and where he meet Epstein. Its extremely unlikely that it happened. There was a margin of like 20 hours between Boris meeting moot for the first time ever and moot opening /pol/, and you have to take into account moot had to fly back to NYC, get into the admin acc and reopen the the boards (or maybe ask KFF to do it?). moot then cancelled Epstein 2-3 more in the span of a year times before Epstein gave up on contacting him.
>only his "social circle".moot's social circle at the time where a bunch of Columbia college students trying to get money from the owner of Buzzfeed, who ran a venture capital financer. Its how canv.as happened.
No.183856
>>183666>The point is most people who'd give a kuso to move already tried out the options last year, even if briefly.There's a reason why HoloTower is the only alt-chan that saw a significant, lasting growth in its userbase -- competent moderation. Picrel: it's wild, when you think about it, that one of the fastest boards on 4chan can lose half its userbase overnight and still hasn't recovered.
I haven't been using kissu long -- seems alright so far, a lot like old /a/ -- but most altchans are poorly moderated in one way or another. It's not that no one cares enough to want to use a better site, it's that there aren't a lot of better options.
No.183857
>>183856/vt/umors are trash so them leaving is a net positive. I wish the same happened with gacha negros.
No.183860
>>183857the energy has dissipated and wallets are lighter than the early vtuber explosion
No.183862
>>183855You did not refute anything. I know because I was the one who previously argued with you about it. Boris was talking with moot several days before he met with Epstein, not the "20 hours" you pulled out of your ass just now.
>moot's social circleI meant Epstein's social circle, not moot's. Are you doing that thing of being retarded and misinterpreting things intentionally? The e-mails are also most likely part of a larger picture. They're only a small fraction of what is known to the public. He must've been talking with those people long before that, not just with Boris.
No.183878
>>183864(Forgive me kissumin but the impulse to historyfag is too strong)
https://archive.ph/QHJHARelevant posts:
>>10828273>Did you know I created one of the original Yotsoybas? I saw someone get a public ban for 'jaking her so I cranked out dozens of Yotsoybas.>here's the ORIGINAL CHUDJAK, YES I MADE CHUDJAK ALL ALONG>xe doesn't know I planted chudjak on bunkerchan as a >ploy to rile up /pol/ and create an obvious target>GEEEEEG why do you think leftypol stopped making anything relevant the moment I left?>FUN FACT: plier was made to troll /v/, making them believe more 'jaks were being commissioned by some furry artist or something>I'm an ancientGOD but I haven't really been active on the sharty since the 'ackbox raids of 2022. I only returned because I learned /qa/ was avenged… but yeah i created chudjak and markiplier, my greatest life achievements are fucking memes… but I will never regret making them. I may have created them but I own NOTHING, they are for everyone, and I am happy.The "Yotsoyba" claim dates him to like 2019. Whatever chatroom he was part of, they were there since the start and this guy in particular is responsible for a the a massive chunk of soyteen OC. That puts him firmly as the second most influential soyjak content maker in history, second only to the Swede. And we could argue he was by impact the most influential jakposter since the Chud alone is larger than entire soyteen community.
>side topicI know its taboo to acknowledge their existence, but the influence of 4chan aligned discord servers goes way beyond soyjak spam. Between 2018 to 2022 a lot of 4chan OC and mannerisms were promoted or forced (spammed) by small Discord groups. Not just for spam, some became 4chan culture warriors trying to dictate the culture of their board. Then you had all these little cliques trying to one up each other with spam.
Most of them are pretty much memory holed or straight up had all evidence of their existence lost. real shame I say.
No.183879
>>183878>(Forgive me kissumin but the impulse to historyfag is too strong)You're only interrupting political conspiracy talk so it's not a huge deal probably. Give people freedom and they'll talk about politics and wojaks.
If people were still writing rules for the internet I would add that law to it.
No.183883
Whenever there's a consensus history or consensus narrative, it's pretty easy after the fact to Texas Sharpshooter together a version of events where it was all you or the proverbial them. You're really just playing off of people's knowledge of events.
No.183889
¥Guys did you know that moot did some networking in 2011? This means that 4chan is actually a psyop guys!
No.183890
>>183878I remember I said on Leftypol that chudjak was a psyop and a false flag – because a caricature of the Right drawn by the Left simply couldn't look that normal – and I didn't even realize just how right I was. Do the leftypolacks know about that thread?
>small Discord groupsAre you sure there isn't something bigger behind them? For instance, all those soyjaks and wojaks basically single-handedly turned kohais right-wing, or at least into Republicans.
No.183891
the very idea of anonymous internet history is silly to me at best its all just people misremembering their misinterpretations about trolls campaigns
No.183892
>>183889So, in your opinion, the largest imageboard in the world in English with an openly identified creator from the USA isn't compromised?
No.183894
>>183893They were mostly .edu emails from west coast colleges, basically a bunch of professors
No.183895
>>183892What does it mean to be compromised? Government controlled or heavy government involvement? No, of course not. Don't be ridiculous
No.183896
>>183894students get .edu accounts too right?
No.183897
>>183896I still have the email list, last time we checked, alot of them turned out to be professors, there was one email for the owner of gurochan
No.183900
>>183849>>183878>This was a psyop by one of the first soyjak spam discords. One of the guys behind it talked about it in the hack: he was responsible for a LOT of kuso that later became "classic" soyjak culture, iirc he made the markiplier jak, the chudjaks / billions must die face (and falseflagged leftypol), had a hand in the 500 soyjaks mega shitpost your image comes from.Always knew that the sharty was full of projecting tards whenever they screech about discord, as if their entire "culture" isn't just a bunch of discord perverts trying to groom each other.
>At this point I'm almost convinced the only soyjak founder who wasn't part of some discord cabal was soot the guy who set up the actual sharty.Same tbh.
>The "Yotsoyba" claim dates him to like 2019.Underselling it because he has the original image editing files.
>>183890The original Soyjak came from mocking consumerist manchilderen.
>basically single-handedly turned kohais right-wing, or at least into Republicans.There was already stuff like Gamergate and lets not talk about that cancer please.
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>>183878I don't doubt it. I was pretty active on a super-sekrit flash based /jp/sie chatroom thing (if you know, you know) around ~2015-2017. I still remember one guy logging on around that time talking about how him and his own personal clique of butt buddies were trying to fend off other posters on /qa/. There were probably a lot more small groups trying to fight some turf war on /qa/ than the ones we know about.
Discord might have been the thing that killed 4chan in general. "eye-arr-see" was always a boogeyman back in the day, but it required a certain amount of net-savvy to use. Not just because most irc clients aren't built for idiots, but because to use irc you needed to ingratiate yourself with enfranchised users of the channel and that meant not being a retard. Discord was basically irc for dumbshits and underageb&s, so it allowed them to communicate and organize in a way that previously they didn't have the platform to do. That was enough to create unprecedented levels of disruption. With the exception of /z/, 4chan has never had to close a board because they couldn't get a handle on the users.
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Am I correct in understanding that all the main variants of the soyjaks were created by 2 people?
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>>183798i'm not about to defend that faggot but /new/ was a board before /pol/ that had stormfront in it all the time then it was shut down and the whole site drowned in stormfronters so /pol/ was created as containment and later on, derailment.
doesn't mean it is wasn't also used to influence people or that Epstein didn't have a hand in re-opening it. mainly to spread right vs left, east vs west, male vs female, white vs black, and islam vs Christianity to keep people away from discussing norms and the financial system. and we get tons of posts and threads about those topics daily so i like my theory.
/pol/ was launched on October 23, 2011. idk what they mean by this because in the article it says it was added in november. i wasn't there at the time so idk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//pol/the faggot met Epstein somewhere at or before the 24th of October 2011 depending on how often Epstein checked his emails.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01853136.pdf No.183904
>>183902That's a basically sound assumption in general. It's just the Paretto Principle at play: 80% of the OC is going to be made by 20% of the contributors. I think that the Anonymous nature of 4chan always gave this illusion that everyone contributes a little bit to the board/board-culture, but that's exactly why astroturfing is difficult to distinguish from grass-roots activity -- you can't tell who or even how many people are involved with it.
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>>183897>there was one email for the owner of gurochanthis alone should've been enough reason to dismiss the email leak
No.183909
It bothers me still that moot abandoned his own feeling and gave in to persuasion to give /pol/ a further lease on life. With much hindsight we have now mounds of self evidence that the idea of a containment board is laughable; just its very presence will always leak outward and mutate the core culture in unforeseeable ways.
He would have felt much better if he had followed his heart, instead of trying to self style himself as a big free internet speech guy.
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>>183909>He would have felt much better if he had followed his heart, instead of trying to self style himself as a big free internet speech guy.moot, at that point in 2009/10, was a bit of a 4chan culture enthusiast. Which means that he fell in with the fashion of the time that was treating boards as standalone communities with their own culture.
He didn't open /pol/ out free speech or political beliefs, he did it because he felt guilty about fucking over the /new/ and /r9k/ communities. He says as much in the newspost.
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Does anyone know anything about this:
https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/109955048He's been reposting this thread over and over again for the past few days, probably getting entire IP ranges banned singlehandedly. Could he be a generic schizo spammer resetting his phone IP/browser every hour or something more serious?
Claims "kohais" have been constantly calling the cops on him so they can kill him, KEK.
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>>183932Most likely just a schizo schizo that got a premium 'cker subscription or something.
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>>183932i got schizo fatigue
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>>183932>>183940yeah he's just one of that community's pet lolcows. they get free proxies.
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>>183958how low do you have to be to do stuff like this
No.183960
>>183959They're all furries you know? They're mentally ill.
No.183965
>>183944Yotsuba doesn't seem to smile any more, which is just as well. The art seems very bleak the past few years. It's gotta be intentional and I guess everyone just accepts it as being fitting.
No.183969
Yotsubachan is a child of another era.
This one is too strange and hostile for childlike wonder and naivity.
No.183976
roblox yotsuba
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>>183879We should updoot them w
No.184118
are there any /tg/ alternatives? it's basically schizoposting or botted.
No.184119
>>184118Probably better to ask in the imageboard happenings thread. I can't answer myself, although I do remember hearing some things now and then.
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